What happend between Carlos Queiroz and Ali Karimi?

[krol]

Again, a lot of people seem to be under the impression that this was the first time CQ had ever been criticized by Karimi and that he reacted too harshly. This was NOT the first time. Karimi has been consistently attacking CQ and accusing him of all kinds of things since 2015. This whole crap about his assistant being his "pesar khande" is as crazy as it's inaccurate. In the world CQ comes from people can get sued for lots of money for making such baseless accusations. And we won't even mention Karimi's dumb idea that CQ is breaking some kind of "law" that limits national coaches to only six weeks of vacation! That was too dumb even for an illiterate idiot like Karimi.

What some people keep missing is that Karimi only has a problem with corruption when he doesn't get his way. He's a selfish diva that has learned the same exact lesson as Mayeli Kohan: Iranians are total suckers for con artists who settle their scores by pretending they're "speaking truth to power". CQ has been doing from day one what Karimi claims to do. He called out the officials for pocketing the players' money on foreign trips. He's called out IFF constantly for wasting money meant to be spent on camps and infrastructure. But the same people cheering for Karimi call CQ an arrogant foreigner when he does it! There are just too many gullible people in that country.

[krol]

problem is Karimi is not a good speaker too. when he opens his mouth, he cant speak cohesively and clearly.

That's because he's actually illiterate (and quite proud of it)! In an interview years ago when he was still in his prime, he said education is worthless because he dropped out of school in third grade but still made a lot of money. He was a cab driver when he was first discovered.

[webmaster]

That's because he's actually illiterate.

Let me remind you that being illiterate or a bad speaker does not mean being wrong. And I am sure it does not need much education to distinguish between right or wrong. Ask yourself, between the IFF vs Karimi, who do you stand behind?

Rest my case.

[krol]

Let me remind you that being illiterate or a bad speaker does not mean being wrong. And I am sure it does not need much education to distinguish between right or wrong.

Being illiterate doesn't necessarily make you wrong, but it does make it much more likely for your judgment to be flawed. The childish, emotional way Karimi responds to things and his pathetic inability to articulate his ideas is very typical of someone who lacks critical thinking skills.

Ask yourself, between the IFF vs Karimi, who do you stand behind?

Rest my case.

The case is not that simple
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One, CQ has been confronting IFF practically the entire time for their corruption and incompetence, but many of the people cheering for Karimi call CQ an arrogant foreigner!

Two, this is not just about IFF. Karimi has been bashing CQ personally for three years now and he attacked him again on Navad for the dumbest reasons. If he only limited his outbursts to the federation I wouldn't mind. But he's been trying to create side issues for team melli ever since he threw a tantrum and quit the team. And he's still at it just 4 months before the world cup. That is simply unacceptable.

[krol]

I mean, seriously, put yourself in CQ's shoes. He's been getting bashed by this tool for three straight years even though CQ went out of his way to be polite to him when he first started his nonsense in 2015. But now, just four months before the world cup, he watches this clown who happens to have a lot of gullible people hanging on his words come on TV and accuse him of breaking some kind of law about vacations(!) and hiring his assistant not because he's useful but because he's his "God Son"! I can't blame CQ for losing his patience with this classless idiot.

[bozghaleh]

I can't believe there are so many Karimi haters out there! Sitting far from Iran, only thinking of the WC, yes its easy to blame Karimi for creating hashie. But what is happening behind the scenes? Do any of you think for 1 second think that the IFF is clean? Karimi spent his whole life in football in Iran (- a few years), so do you think he's in a better position than all of you quick to judgment guys about what's really happening? Doesn't he have the right to bring up these issues? Someone suggested writing a letter! This is Iran we are talking about not England! Blood is spilled on the streets and nothing changes, let alone a letter!

Karimi may not be the smoothest talker or have the greatest tact, he may never have realized his potential. And people are quick to see he is lazy or whatever, and then try to make that the sum of him. The one thing Karimi has is heart. I will never forget his green wrist band (could have gotten him imprisoned or kicked off the team), his help to the poor, etc. etc. So if he says there may be a problem with CQ, he may be right. Think about this, which of you could put up with the Akhound system, and in order to do so (as a foreigner), what does that say about you? I support CQ as our coach and all he has done but if it later came out there was some funny business, I would not be totally surprised. And going back to the beginning, these issues he is bringing up are 100,000X more important than a good WC showing. These are the ills that are destroying our country, and if it is not seriously addressed then the disturbances of last month will grow and grow, the country will be unstable AKA 1980's, and you can kiss your football goodbye.

[NFL]

Karimi couldn't speak if his life depended on it, but at least he raised some valid questions. and some silly ones. but Saket is simply an illiterate man.

Really , as much as I love karimi, this debate was between two "bisavaad" people. just throwing shit up to see what sticks isn't the way you conduct a debate, even if you are raising some real questions.

what was most disappointing to me was Carlos Qeiroz's response. absolutely uncalled for!!! If I didn't know better I could even say that haj mamad maylee wrote that response. but hey, it is what it is. Carlos is a grouchy man that knows defensive football better than anyone else on the planet, and he isn't going to change.
But neither is karimi!

the show must go on!!

[webmaster]

Being illiterate doesn't necessarily make you wrong, but it does make it much more likely for your judgment to be flawed. The childish, emotional way Karimi responds to things and his pathetic inability to articulate his ideas is very typical of someone who lacks critical thinking skills.

So you basically mean that just because he does not have the "maturity" or skills, he has to be quiet? If likes of you "the educated" crowd, knows that what he is saying is right but needs some polishing or retouching so why not help him yourself? ask yourself, if he is 1% right, are you seeing it and helping the point get through to people?

The case is not that simple

yes or no?. It is as simple as that. If you can't pick a side, then what can I say?
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And he's still at it just 4 months before the world cup. That is simply unacceptable.

The truth is the truth. If the truth comes out, who will it hurt? the people or the IFF?? People nor the world cup appearance will get hurt, but only the IFF and deserving it too. If someone talks about the money received from the world cup and where it has gone and where will go this time again, then he should be quiet??

So you want to attack him because he asks where the money is but lacks adequate skills (according to yourself) or bad timing to say it? so basically he is NOT ALLOWED TO SAY ANYTHING? don't you think that he does have more knowledge about what's going on in our football than us fans? or you think you know better than him? he is just trying to expose and bring out the truth many of us have no idea about. Is that bad?

I rest my case again.

bro, Karimi is a legend in Iran and has not gotten anything from his amazing footballing time to brag about at least in Iran. You can argue that it is his fault, but in a perfect world, countries will go the extra mile for their amazing talents, but we haven't and Karimi and likes are clear proof of what I just said. Let's stand behind our legendary players and not make another Daei case of killing Iranian heroes through their shows like 90 and etc. because character assassination is the best way that works good with the masses. That is what tis IR has used since day one. Remember Nasser Hejazi?

[Keano]

What happend between Carlos Queiroz and Ali Karimi?

Honestly I cannot comprehend how on earth CQ bore with all the chaos and hell going on in our country and stayed in Iran for so many years. It’s just hard to cope with all these people and the federation and more agonizingly the IR.

If he decides to leave which I am certain he will, I would 100% understand him. The success our football achieved under his reign was unprecedented and incredible. Too sad some of our people never acknowledge that, and only opt to let their nationalistic sentiments be the judge. Of character...


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[Keano]

i never knew ali karimi had a problem with CQ, also CQ is a professional coach he would never bring a assistant who has no qualification, if ali karimi claim that he must prof it

Ali Karimi was an amazing and gifted player, for I will always remember and cherish his talent and cheerful moments he brought to our homes during his startling performances throughout his footballing career.

Having said that, to answer your question, Karimi has had problems with many of the coaches he has worked with, to name a few: Branko, Afshin Qotbi, Ali Daei, CQ. Oh his lack of football enthusiasm angered his then agent Abolfazl Jalali and his former coach Felix Magath. And...


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[Keano]

Don’t start that bs again please.

The majority of Persepolisi fans on this forum are siding with CQ.

I don’t think Amin alluded Perspolis fans are starting stirring shit, as I am sure he and all of us know that last week Esteghlal fans during Esteghlal - Sepidrood match also cheered for Karimi, while resenting CQ.

The bottom line is Mr. Quitter has initiated this Anti-Queiroz/TM movement and chants by masses, just months before the World Cup, and we all know this is not going to end here, for shame on Ali Karimi, the ever camps demoralizer at the worst and most crucial times!


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[KeonKish]

Karimi has always been a selfish person.

I am shocked that you guys side with him, obviously it must be your emotional attachment to him.

Karimi has 0 credibility as a professional, has accomplished nothing of importance, and has been saying controversial shit every few months ever since he retired.

I liked him as a player but his personality is a 2/10

[MR.ESTESNAII]

Karimi riiiiidddd....I lost respect for him ....joined the rest of the timarestani coaches in Iran .....

[Adesor Vafaseya]

"what happened?"

Answer: Nothing. Ali Karimi just being Ali Karimi. Is that even a question?
Very sad indeed.


Ali Karimi en route of becoming a Mayeli Kohan....

[teammelli91]

As someone who is a candid supporter of Carlos Queiroz, I take Ali Karimi’s side here because his question is valid and it needs a straightforward answer. As the people of Iran, as Iranian football fans, as Team Melli fans we have the right to know if Sebastian has a coaching license.

Look, I love Carlos Queiroz and although Ali Karimi may come across as a lunatic I still enjoyed every single second he cornered this clown Saket.

And what’s sad about this is that Saket was a part of the Sepahan family and Sepahan is a privately owned football club. Taj’s co-captains are relatively better opposed to the Kaffashian era. But that doesn’t mean they won’t lie to save their own asses.

Did you hear Saket making a reference to “basij shodan” while speaking of our athletes. Akhe martikeh, basij shodan che rabti dare be football. Agha oomade pasokhgoo bashe dar barnamaye Navad bad baraye ma “Iran e Eslami” o “basij shodan” e footballistamoon mikone. Che rabti dare?

All I know is that I respect both Carlos Queiroz and Ali Karimi. But Ali had the right to question everything. I always say, “If you’re gonna do something that’s considered to be drastic and unveiling of the truth, you might as well go all out with it.”

We have the right to know where all of the money is going. We have the right to know where the 2014 World Cup money went. We want to know why our IFF are hypocrites and they make laws as they go and undermine their own legitimacy.