What happend between Carlos Queiroz and Ali Karimi?

[PersianLegion]

Another crushing retort Next time just post a pic of yourself crying next to your Karimi poster. It's already obvious that's what's happening

Are you angry, dude? Did I crush your logic?

[PersianLegion]

It seems many people are jealous of Karimi and his popularity. It seems Karimi knows how to push the button of some people that they can not even rest a minute from attacking him. Why do you think that it? Their idol has been questioned! wow how dare you ask question or point out toward few problems! Don't focus on all useful things Karimi mentioned just pick the portion that he criticized CQ and make this look like Karimi vs CQ, and mask the fact that Karimi called out Taj/Kaffashian and IFF's corruption and Taj even didn't have the balls to show up on 90tv. Then the idol man comes on TV and directly curse the legend but we don't want to see that. We want to just attack an honest man who raised few questions.

CQ is morally bankrupt. All I care now is, he shut his f... up mouth and focus on the team. If we don't get out of group stage in WC, all CQ worshiper/ Karimi haters should come here and apologize. Truth will be out after WC 2018 hopefully. I feel CQ is a good coach but has shady character even Manuel Jose his country man call him a shady man.

[Ghomarbaaz]

lol @ Mr. Sebastian....
I liked everything Karimi said on the show except his accusations of CQ... It made him sound like a cry baby.

[Hadi]

That's because he's actually illiterate (and quite proud of it)! In an interview years ago when he was still in his prime, he said education is worthless because he dropped out of school in third grade but still made a lot of money. He was a cab driver when he was first discovered.

then do you actually believe that education is worthless? that's the most stupid thing i've ever heard

I repeat again. a footballer doesn't need/have to be also a good speaker/teacher/educator/doctor/philosopher/scientist.

Ali Karimi was a good footballer. Doesn't mean he can automatically be good at anything else.

IFF is corrupt. yes it is (so is most of IR's government offices). Is it brave to fight against corruption? yes it is. But Karimi is going about it the wrong way for sure. He is wasting his popularity.

Plus, CQ's message was in English and i think the farsi translation sounds worse than it is.

CQ has only one aim and one aim only: two lead TM to success and of course to earn money and respect. If anything (including Karimi) stands in his way, he will surely battle.

[Hadi]

It seems many people are jealous of Karimi and his popularity. It seems Karimi knows how to push the button of some people that they can not even rest a minute from attacking him. Why do you think that it? Their idol has been questioned! wow how dare you ask question or point out toward few problems! Don't focus on all useful things Karimi mentioned just pick the portion that he criticized CQ and make this look like Karimi vs CQ, and mask the fact that Karimi called out Taj/Kaffashian and IFF's corruption and Taj even didn't have the balls to show up on 90tv. Then the idol man comes on TV and directly curse the legend but we don't want to see that. We want to just attack an honest man who raised few questions.

CQ is morally bankrupt. All I care now is, he shut his f... up mouth and focus on the team. If we don't get out of group stage in WC, all CQ worshiper/ Karimi haters should come here and apologize. Truth will be out after WC 2018 hopefully. I feel CQ is a good coach but has shady character even Manuel Jose his country man call him a shady man.

lol "shady" character?

As soon as CQ leaves, we will end up with a coach like Ghalenoyi or Daie or even worse, a third class money loving "SHADY" foreign coach

you people have a short memory

[IRANIAN_4_LIFE]

It seems many people are jealous of Karimi and his popularity. It seems Karimi knows how to push the button of some people that they can not even rest a minute from attacking him. Why do you think that it? Their idol has been questioned! wow how dare you ask question or point out toward few problems! Don't focus on all useful things Karimi mentioned just pick the portion that he criticized CQ and make this look like Karimi vs CQ, and mask the fact that Karimi called out Taj/Kaffashian and IFF's corruption and Taj even didn't have the balls to show up on 90tv. Then the idol man comes on TV and directly curse the legend but we don't want to see that. We want to just attack an honest man who raised few questions.
CQ is morally bankrupt. All I care now is, he shut his f... up mouth and focus on the team. If we don't get out of group stage in WC, all CQ worshiper/ Karimi haters should come here and apologize. Truth will be out after WC 2018 hopefully. I feel CQ is a good coach but has shady character even Manuel Jose his country man call him a shady man.

I don't think that is the case, it actually seems like its the karimi fans that cant see his short comings. Karimi was just on the show shouting, and throwing thing out one after another, not waiting for answer or actually having a discussion or a proper argument. just because he shouted more and made more noise doesnt automatically make him right! A lot of things he said was on point, but at the same time some of the things he said was from his jealousy he was annoyed they got rid of him as a coaching staff from TM, he even sneakily tried to lobby for Branko in middle of the whole mist. Stop idolising Men, be it Karimi or Carlos. they are just men and they will make mistakes. but in this instance karimi is just trying to grab some attention. I'm afraid to say his becoming a bit of has been that cant let go. He should be concentrating on his qualifications as a coach and a manager and concentrate on his team. look at mahdavikia and hashemian or even nekounam all of them studying and doing work placements to get where they want to be. karimi is trying to find short cuts and when he gets to dead ends he just starts shouting and tries to shout his way through.

[04041374]

Coward


Courageous

[PersianLegion]

That's because he's actually illiterate (and quite proud of it)! In an interview years ago when he was still in his prime, he said education is worthless because he dropped out of school in third grade but still made a lot of money. He was a cab driver when he was first discovered.

This user is constantly claiming thing about Karimi and it is obvious he has a chip on his shoulder.

Show me where did you read about Karimi have only education of a third grader as you claim. And specifically show me the part that you claim he was proud of having no education. Give link or provide a piece of evidence from a reliable source. (not yellow journalism). If you can not provide proof as I suspect. Then it is obvious you are a real troll with only 73 post so far which a big chunk of it is just some accusations about Karimi.

Most of footballers have at maximum a diploma degree.

[Omids]

Shame on anyone who causes distraction & disunity within TM months away from the WC with the toughest group that we have ever been grouped in. Surely now is not the time for this.

[Ata]

this can be easy avoided if CQ dont respond, just focus on TM and the camps and the games, dont even talk to media about these things.

[Homa]

It seems many people are jealous of Karimi and his popularity. It seems Karimi knows how to push the button of some people that they can not even rest a minute from attacking him. Why do you think that it? Their idol has been questioned! wow how dare you ask question or point out toward few problems! Don't focus on all useful things Karimi mentioned just pick the portion that he criticized CQ and make this look like Karimi vs CQ, and mask the fact that Karimi called out Taj/Kaffashian and IFF's corruption and Taj even didn't have the balls to show up on 90tv. Then the idol man comes on TV and directly curse the legend but we don't want to see that. We want to just attack an honest man who raised few questions.

CQ is morally bankrupt. All I care now is, he shut his f... up mouth and focus on the team. If we don't get out of group stage in WC, all CQ worshiper/ Karimi haters should come here and apologize. Truth will be out after WC 2018 hopefully. I feel CQ is a good coach but has shady character even Manuel Jose his country man call him a shady man.

It is no secret that the whole Iranian football is corrupt. Honestly, the whole country is corrupt, leave alone the sport.
It is absolute OK and his right to complain about the system - but Ali Karimi was for many years part of this system. And during this time he was more than happy with it.
So the question is: Why does he now comes out and throw dirt on others?

And from the point of character:
I still have not forget (it actually happened directly in front of me) how he refused to be subbed in against Angola at the WC06. Before praising his braveness, we always have to remember.

[DireStraits]

The best word to describe Karimi is Mr quiter! It is the translation that was a mistake not his response. I have no doubt that Karimi & Perspolis do not want to see
TM and CQ do better than in the past in world cups. It is not the first time they mess with CQ in the wrong time.
Was it a good time to fight with Ali Daei in the middle of Iran Mexico game in world cup?

[PersianLegion]

The best word to describe Karimi is Mr quiter! It is the translation that was a mistake not his response. I have no doubt that Karimi & Perspolis do not want to see
TM and CQ do better than in the past in world cups. It is not the first time they mess with CQ in the wrong time.
Was it a good time to fight with Ali Daei in the middle of Iran Mexico game in world cup?

Do not forget all of us are Iranians and no matter what we want to see our national team to stand high. I am sure majority of PP fans are also behind NT. Karimi is also for NT not against it. There are vast corruption in IFF and Karimi wanted to point that out. A small portion was around how to manage CQ in NT but the majority of the problems has gone out of the picture because the corrupted individual in IFF are feeding the media with Karimi vs CQ stories and unfortunately CQ and majority of our NT fans are falling for it. That is the real story here. Those who created the shit and embezzled money want this thing gets worse so they can hide.

People like Ghalenoi, Asadi, Derakhshan, Mayeli and gangs are just trying to ride on the wave so they need to make this even bigger. What we want is Karimi to focus on IFF corruption and CQ shut his mouth atm and focus on the team.

Karimi never wanted to talk about CQ, his problem was with IFF and Sazman league, in a burst of anger after Sepidrud vs SS match he hinted some cases which he should give explanation afterward. Otherwise, all of us know this is not the time to attack NT. But it is a good time to criticize IFF because they are stealing the money fifa provide them for WC. They stole the money we got from fifa for wc 2014, if you remember. I remember 2006 world cup.

How do you explain inclusion of 37 year old Ali Daei who could not score goals or run in the team? How about Rasoul Khatibi who was famous as MR. Gol Nazan? The fight broke in locker room because MR. Proud Ali Daei didn't want to get sub despite being useless. We had tones of good player abroad and in our league who were far better than Ali Daei and younger but they were crossed off the list to keep him on the team. Our national team was literary playing with 10 players in every match in WC 2006. Did you remember that too? Did you remember how popular Ali Daei was in 2006? It seems people have short memory. Most of us were frustrated as hell with stubbornness and selfishness of Ali Daei.

[PersianLegion]

It is no secret that the whole Iranian football is corrupt. Honestly, the whole country is corrupt, leave alone the sport.
It is absolute OK and his right to complain about the system - but Ali Karimi was for many years part of this system. And during this time he was more than happy with it.
So the question is: Why does he now comes out and throw dirt on others?

And from the point of character:
I still have not forget (it actually happened directly in front of me) how he refused to be subbed in against Angola at the WC06. Before praising his braveness, we always have to remember.

How old are you my fellow countryman/countrywoman? Did you follow Ali Karimi closely from 2000s onward? Because I did as well as many Iranian fans who are old enough to remember. Ali Karimi was and still is famous for being a big criticizer of the corruption. He was never part of the regime and he always was against their selections. Show me were he was part of the system? Please mention with solid proof not just cheap talks. People who were part of the system were like Ali Parvin or Ali Daei. Ali Karimi always got hurt because he spoke against the system.

If you remember 2006 then tell me why he got frustrated. Can't you come up with the news and story behind it. I am sure if you seen the moment you should remember the situation of our team and all drama around it as well. Please don't tell me you just heard something.

[perspolis#1]

I loved Karimis abilities but he is aiming outside his league right now.

As a player he got away with a lot because of spineless coaches like Branko.

Put him in Sir Alex Fergusons lockerroom and his ass would have been beaten.
I dont think you guys understand the fall from heights we will go when CQ leaves and Ghalenoei or Mayeli Kodan takes over.
I am fairly certain players that learned tactically from CQ like Hosseini,ARJ,Hajsafi are more tactically brilliant than GN at this point.