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    #61
    Originally posted by Saam View Post
    I didn't say he should be left out because he's old. I said he is older now and he is obviously not as effective since Queiroz finds a way to play all of his strikers at different moments of matches, and lately, that has not really included Gucci much. I don't doubt his clutch moments and will always be grateful for his contributions in 2014. But that was 2014. He hasn't really done much for this campaign. If it comes down to a situation where we can only take 4 strikers, keeping in mind that Azmoun and Taremi are absolute locks based on their TM performances, I think it would be unfair to leave out Karim or Kaveh for Gucci. Both had better seasons in leagues that are arguably more challenging than where Gucci played.
    CQ doesn't seem like the kind of guy to set caps for each position in a 23 man squad. I think he's going to take Sardar, Taremi, Karim, Kaveh, and Ghoochi. We lack depth and quality in defense and midfield, I'm sure we can spare a spot given how stacked we are up top.

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      #62
      Originally posted by Bagg10 View Post
      CQ doesn't seem like the kind of guy to set caps for each position in a 23 man squad. I think he's going to take Sardar, Taremi, Karim, Kaveh, and Ghoochi. We lack depth and quality in defense and midfield, I'm sure we can spare a spot given how stacked we are up top.
      Yes, I would be very happy if he could take all 5 but I think he will also be considering the defense and midfield. If we take Ghoddos, Shojaei and Ashkan that's already 3 CAMs for potentially one position in the 11, with Amiri taking a spot for a tactical sub, so that's already 4 of the midfield spots taken. Add that to 11 spots for goalie/defenders, you get 15/19 (not counting strikers for now). Add Ezatollahi, Jahanbakhsh and Hajsafi that's 18/19. All you have left is one spot for another DM and let's be real, he's not gonna take only two DMs. It's definitely a selection headache to accommodate all 5 forwards in one squad. I wouldn't want to be in CQ's position for that dilemma.

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        #63
        23 Man Squad for World Cup

        Saam has a valid point. I have seen many league games from Gucci this season and he seems to be struggling a lot against even weaker Eredivisie sides who simply put 1 or 2 narekhar defenders to mark him.

        I’m afraid he will be completely invisible against teams like Morocco who have much stronger defenders. This is the same reason he didn’t succeed in the Championship.

        And honestly Rezaei and Ansarifard are much more psychical players that can be useful for aerial and 1vs1 battles.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Kiarash View Post
          Saam has a valid point. I have seen many league games from Gucci this season and he seems to be struggling a lot against even weaker Eredivisie sides who simply put 1 or 2 narekhar defenders to mark him. I’m afraid he will be completely invisible against teams like Morocco who have much stronger defenders.

          And honestly Rezaei and Ansarifard are much more psychical players that can be useful for aerial and 1vs1 battles.
          you may be right, but experience is a think you cant get by playing in europe, karim and kaveh do not have experience playing in world cup and scoring, gucci have, hence this alone he should be in world cup

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            #65
            23 Man Squad for World Cup

            Originally posted by ehsan singapore View Post
            you may be right, but experience is a think you cant get by playing in europe, karim and kaveh do not have experience playing in world cup and scoring, gucci have, hence this alone he should be in world cup
            Well this is also a good point, he scored the lone goal at our previous World Cup but that was against an already eliminated Bosnia. I think he is way more useful for a tournament like Asian Cup 2019, scoring against compact park the bus Arab teams is his specialty.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Kiarash View Post
              Well this is also a good point, he scored the lone goal at our previous World Cup but that was against an already eliminated Bosnia. I think he is way more useful for a tournament like Asian Cup 2019, scoring against compact park the bus Arab teams is his specialty.
              ok he had great chances against nigeria, two chances against argentina, he is not what he used to be , but he can still help us.not taking him is just wrong, even though karim and kaveh are good in europe , TM they are weak and not performing, expecially karim, kaveh is still ok

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                #67
                Originally posted by ehsan singapore View Post
                you may be right, but experience is a think you cant get by playing in europe, karim and kaveh do not have experience playing in world cup and scoring, gucci have, hence this alone he should be in world cup
                This is the most fatally flawed argument I’ve ever heard. So by that logic, azmoun should be behind Gucci for the starting 11 because he has never played, let alone scored a goal, in the World Cup. So the fact that Kaveh and Karim have been way better than Gucci (and it’s not even close) playing against better competition has no bearing on their position in the World Cup squad. I’m sorry but that’s ridiculous.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by ehsan singapore View Post
                  ok he had great chances against nigeria, two chances against argentina, he is not what he used to be , but he can still help us.not taking him is just wrong, even though karim and kaveh are good in europe , TM they are weak and not performing, expecially karim, kaveh is still ok
                  Obviously he had chances in the last World Cup, he was the only striker playing in that tournament for us but he’s not as good now.

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                    #69
                    Team Melli

                    GK
                    Bieranvand
                    Abedzadeh
                    ?

                    CB
                    Pouraliganji
                    Hosseini
                    Montazeri ?
                    Cheshmi

                    RB
                    Rezeian
                    Ghafouri

                    LB
                    Mohammadi


                    DM
                    Ezattolahi
                    Karimi ?

                    CM
                    Dejageh ?
                    Ghoddos
                    Shojaei ?

                    RW
                    Jahanbaksh
                    Torabi ?

                    LW
                    Taremi
                    Haj Safi

                    FW
                    Azmoun
                    Ansarifard
                    Gucci ?
                    Rezaei ?

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                      #70
                      baba joon ... I LOVE Gucci ... but to bring up what he did FOUR YEARS ago is not the right way to make your point for his inclusion.
                      At least say he is a clutch finisher. And has an engine. But he is also 4 years older.
                      Remember our FINAL is also our first match. And we won't have EZATOLLAHI but we MUST win.
                      So we need goalscorers. Whether it can be from a corner, set piece, free kick ... we need goal scorers.
                      I expect Jahanbaksh and Ghoddos given a green light to shoot when they want.

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by AMIRHOUSHANG View Post
                        Team Melli

                        GK
                        Bieranvand
                        Abedzadeh
                        ?

                        CB
                        Pouraliganji
                        Hosseini
                        Montazeri ?
                        Cheshmi

                        RB
                        Rezeian
                        Ghafouri

                        LB
                        Mohammadi


                        DM
                        Ezattolahi
                        Karimi ?

                        CM
                        Dejageh ?
                        Ghoddos
                        Shojaei ?

                        RW
                        Jahanbaksh
                        Torabi ?

                        LW
                        Taremi
                        Haj Safi

                        FW
                        Azmoun
                        Ansarifard
                        Gucci ?
                        Rezaei ?
                        Agree with your squad. Gholizadeh and Torabi will battle for their place, even though they are really good friends. Hajsafi is a CM for the national team. Ansarifard will be taken as a winger or CM. I'm a fan of the way Ali Karimi plays, just needs to show his top form in the next friendlies. Prefer Majid Hosseini over Cheshmi. Can't decide on goalkeepers.

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                          #72
                          Goalkeepers:
                          Hossein Hosseini
                          Rashid Mazaheri
                          Alireza Haghighi


                          Defenders:
                          Seyed Jalal Hosseini
                          Morteza Pouraliganji
                          Milad Mohammadi
                          Pejman Montazeri
                          Vouria Ghafouri
                          Ramin Rezaeian

                          Midfielders:
                          Ehsan Hajsafi
                          Rouzbeh Cheshmi
                          Saman Ghoddos
                          Ashkan Dejagah
                          Masoud Shojaei
                          Alireza Jahanbaksh
                          Mehdi Torabi
                          Saeid Ezatolahi
                          Omid Noorafkan

                          Forwards:
                          Kaveh Rezaie
                          Reza Ghoochannejhad
                          Sardar Azmoun
                          Mehdi Taremi
                          Karim Ansarifard
                          Team Meli Iran
                          Perspolis FC
                          Malavan Bandar Anzali


                          "I will never be able to say good bye to Iran. I have a feeling of belonging to this country and to the people." - Carlos Queiroz

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                            #73
                            Originally posted by PersianLegion View Post
                            Still it can not bit (Hashemian, Daei, Bagheri, Mahdavikia, Karimi)
                            Although it is hard to beat the combination you mention, but I have to say our players today have a much deeper knowledge and understanding of the game and that means, you don't need to have superstars to win.

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                              #74
                              Goalkeepers:
                              Alireza Beiranvand
                              Rashid Mazaheri
                              Alireza Haghighi


                              Defenders:
                              Seyed Jalal Hosseini
                              Morteza Pouraliganji
                              Milad Mohammadi
                              Saeid Aghaei
                              Pejman Montazeri
                              Vouria Ghafouri
                              Ramin Rezaeian
                              Rouzbeh Cheshmi

                              Midfielders:
                              Ehsan Hajsafi
                              Saman Ghoddos
                              Ashkan Dejagah
                              Masoud Shojaei
                              Alireza Jahanbaksh
                              Mehdi Torabi
                              Saeid Ezatolahi
                              Omid Ebrahimi

                              Forwards:
                              Reza Ghoochannejhad
                              Sardar Azmoun
                              Mehdi Taremi
                              Karim Ansarifard

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                                #75
                                Great article by Martin-Reza on CQ's striker dilemma:

                                http://www.persianfootball.com/news/...election-woes/

                                Personally, although controversial, if I had to pick 3 out of the 4, I am taking Azmoun, Karim and Kaveh Rezaei - so that means Gucci stays home. However, if he can put one in as a winger, then I would definitely cut the likes of Vahid Amiri.

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