Carlos Queiroz warns that Iran is far from the required level

[sirvan]

saudi is kindoff thats whats he's saying anyway but they have like 8-10 players in spain not sure what they will do

Funny thing is that the Saudi players have played zero minutes in La Liga thus far.

[shahname]

There is one thing I don't get here.
Since TM players are going to camp after each league match for recovery, I would have imagined, that CQ was able to monitor their fitness and awareness levels and could thereby improve their form by special training programs for every player. But when he said domestic players are not up til the required level and Algeria match, I thought shouldn't you already know that and don't you have these players every week in camp to do something about that issue?? I mean what is the point of these players going to recovery with TM staff every week then?

[Babak agha]

Babak Agha, you start by saying maybe I am mistaken and end with I very well may be wrong. This may be because you are being humble fair enough but your lack of conviction in what you are saying shows deep down you think CQ may actually be right. We have qualified for the fifth time and this is the first time we qualified twice in a row and both under CQ. Do you blame him for wanting to push that much further this time and try our chances of getting through to the next round? It is possible: one win against Morocco and two draws. If we can hold Argentina and messy for 90 plus minutes spain and portugal, become possible too. But our players need that extra time training together to increase our chances. I vote for that.

With all due respect this sums the whole issue with the blind support for CQ's every action and actually proves my point.

This post has absolutely nothing to do, not address anything about, my post.

The only things they you got right was quoting my post, using my user name, mentioning CQ and there World Cup.

And that's where it all ends.

I never said that CQ was a bad coach (he certainly is one of the best it not the best we have got). Nor did I criticize his coaching approach or selection or tactics or........

What I criticized was his behavior and style of communication.

You and every other dear and respected member of this forum can jump up and down and bring up unrelated facts and twist points and posts, what you can't do is sit there and with a straight face say the text message he sent to Adel about Karimi was a smart professional thing, nor his public (for a lack of better word) whining is what you would like to see from a respected coach.

There are only a few examples of good coaches who act like him, one of them being Mourinho. Despite being a world class coachManU as a club with their history should be ashamed of having him as a coach. Dutch people and media are usually ashamed or make fun of Va Gaal due to the way he acts and talks despite being one of the world best coaches.

And since CQ is not virgin Mary nor "namoos" of anyone here I do not understand why he can't be criticized without people going out of bend to "protect" him.

Just like I'm aware of the fact that I may be wrong (although it's more of an opinion of mine about his communication) have you guys considered that you might be wrong as well, or even worse that CQ is wrong?

[Omids]

There is one thing I don't get here.
Since TM players are going to camp after each league match for recovery, I would have imagined, that CQ was able to monitor their fitness and awareness levels and could thereby improve their form by special training programs for every player. But when he said domestic players are not up til the required level and Algeria match, I thought shouldn't you already know that and don't you have these players every week in camp to do something about that issue?? I mean what is the point of these players going to recovery with TM staff every week then?

You keep saying they come to TM staff for recovery after league games. Surely recovery is not the same as build-up. The team need to build up towards the WC and I completely agree at the least the league TM players should be together for weeks at the end to get ready. And I am thinking this is CQ’s ploy, set the stakes high and demand to shut the league down then at least the clubs will agree to let all the TM players go for the lengthy preparation. His demand has got the discussion going and public opinion will force the federation & teams to act now as they don’t want to be blamed for any WC failure. Very good strategy on CQ’s part.

[Omids]

Babak Agha jan but in all seriousness how else can CQ get things done in Iran? CQ is all about strategy and steps towards that end. Now the Tunisia game selections makes complete sense as per CQs demand. CQ wanted TM to play agains Tunisia with a league dominated player set to show us all what would it be like if he has to play his second choices in the WC, then he played a predominantly overseas player set verses Algeria. He has shown us the contrast and most are in agreement with his assessment now. A major point is proven.

In my opinion that is the only way CQ gets his way and as he usually proves his point the public opinion is always behind him, just like this time. And I say all power to you CQ, keep going with a strategy which gets things done.

[Babak agha]

Babak Agha jan but in all seriousness how else can CQ get things done in Iran? CQ is all about strategy and steps towards that end. Now the Tunisia game selections makes complete sense as per CQs demand. CQ wanted TM to play agains Tunisia with a league dominated player set to show us all what would it be like if he has to play his second choices in the WC, then he played a predominantly overseas player set verses Algeria. He has shown us the contrast and most are in agreement with his assessment now. A major point is proven.
In my opinion that is the only way CQ gets his way and as he usually proves his point the public opinion is always behind him, just like this time. And I say all power to you CQ, keep going with a strategy which gets things done.

Good post

Like I said in my post I don't think/know if there's any other way for CQ to get what he wants in Iran. Unfortunately!

I just said that I don't like this aspect of his communication/strategy as to me it looks like whining and looking for excuses (even when it's not) and I don't expect this from a professional coach. But as I said: whatever makes TM shines....

Regarding the proving a point: I don't buy it as it was not something that any sane person would deny.

Regarding the timing (only 40 days): it's a day too late and a dollar too short. To compete against Portugal and Spain physically (incl. speed, agility and reaction) and tactically or players need to be more than 20% improved on both aspects and there's no way you can improve an active athlete by 20% in just 40 days. If so Olympians would only start practicing for real a month or two before the games and not for 4 years to just get a couple of prevent or seconds better than they were.

That being said during the last World Cup no sane Dutch person would believe that Netherlands would make it through the group stage let alone reach half finals and trash Spain so..... It's 90 minutes, 11 against 11, the ball is round and if the ref is not from Saudi and its minion countries we will have a chance.

[shahname]

You keep saying they come to TM staff for recovery after league games. Surely recovery is not the same as build-up. The team need to build up towards the WC and I completely agree at the least the league TM players should be together for weeks at the end to get ready. And I am thinking this is CQ’s ploy, set the stakes high and demand to shut the league down then at least the clubs will agree to let all the TM players go for the lengthy preparation. His demand has got the discussion going and public opinion will force the federation & teams to act now as they don’t want to be blamed for any WC failure. Very good strategy on CQ’s part.

If TM players needed buildup as you say and not recovery, then why on earth is there used tons of energy for every TM player to go to camp after each league match?? Sometimes it takes players days to go to camp and then get back to their clubs. Then what is the point of that? Thats what I don't understand!

[hasan]

Remember algeria last WC against Germany...no one even gave them a chance and they almost beat germany.
Then that same German team went on to trash Brazil 6-1 while they barely survived algeria so anything is possible.

[Bi-honar]

Branko another useless pig in our country

I can't stand that guy and never did. But he did have a point... the players that seemed least fit in the Algeria match were Azmoun and Taremi - neither of which play in the IPL.

Our first 4 substitutions were all non-IPL players and the first - and the ONLY one of 5 subs - IPL player to show signs of fatigue and be substituted was Aghaei in the 73rd minute!!!

While I agree that TM has looked unfit, both physically and mentally, in the last few matches, I think the timing and the manner in which CQ brought this up is at least a bit suspect or facetious.

[Sly]

I think the timing and the manner in which CQ brought this up is at least a bit suspect or facetious.

What are you thinking bro?

[Roozbeh-G2006]

With all due respect this sums the whole issue with the blind support for CQ's every action and actually proves my point.

This post has absolutely nothing to do, not address anything about, my post.

The only things they you got right was quoting my post, using my user name, mentioning CQ and there World Cup.

And that's where it all ends.

I never said that CQ was a bad coach (he certainly is one of the best it not the best we have got). Nor did I criticize his coaching approach or selection or tactics or........

What I criticized was his behavior and style of communication.


Just like I'm aware of the fact that I may be wrong (although it's more of an opinion of mine about his communication) have you guys considered that you might be wrong as well, or even worse that CQ is wrong?

Oh yeah of course mate. I for one might well be so wrong that Q himself might tell me so. But we only speculate on the bits of news we hear. Right? So Q wants a long camp with TM to get them just that much more ready and synced. His way may be unprofessional or whatever in your opinion but I can't see how else he is going to get this agreed to? I don't think it is up to the head coaches to decide to suspend the league. Though they can easily continue without their TM players and TBH I think they should, simply to give chances to their other players and train a bit harder. I doubt, if they suffered as the result, their fans would be too upset because those fans I am sure would want TM to do well. Maybe they should stop whinging for TM's sake?

[Roozbeh-G2006]

Love this.
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Carlos Queiroz
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TIME TO APOLOGIZE (1st chapter)

After the game of Juventus Vs. Real Madrid.
Now it is clear, Iran Football league is the same as Europe. The level of game speed, rhythm and intensity is the same!!!
The level of player’s preparation and player’s performance is the same!!!
It is time to apologize to Iranian football fans for my wrong perception and opinion, in particular, to our special Three Tenors!!
I also need to express my humble apologies to our national team players. I thought it was my duty to fight for one special preparation program, in order to give them the opportunity to be better prepared, and compete at the World Cup level, with brilliant capacity and shining dignity and honor.
It is now time to apologize to our national team players, because they don’t need a special preparation program for the world cup. We are ready for Ronaldo, Isco and all other fellows…

All for Team Melli

CQ

[Babak agha]

Very professional and mature post. Good to see that CQ supporters are on the bandwagon and are full of praise of this childish undignified ridiculing of it TM and its players.

We do not need to worry for the Saudis and the Alt-right Americans to harm us. We have enough hamvatanis that are a bigger treat to Iran and Iranians than any foreign foe (and before anyone gets his panties crossed, look at our entire history and see that 9 out of 10 times it's some "Iranians" who help the foreigners to harm us, or county's and our culture).

Az ma’st ke bar ma’st.

Real shame......

[Lorestani]

I can't stand that guy and never did. But he did have a point... the players that seemed least fit in the Algeria match were Azmoun and Taremi - neither of which play in the IPL.

Our first 4 substitutions were all non-IPL players and the first - and the ONLY one of 5 subs - IPL player to show signs of fatigue and be substituted was Aghaei in the 73rd minute!!!

While I agree that TM has looked unfit, both physically and mentally, in the last few matches, I think the timing and the manner in which CQ brought this up is at least a bit suspect or facetious.

You are missing the point. CQ's did not talk about levels of fitness, but rather things like game intelligence, positioning, and sharpness in one-on-ones, all of which are not fully determined by your level of fitness, but rather manifestations of game maturity, which IPL players lack more than foreign-based players.

[Roozbeh-G2006]

Very professional and mature post. Good to see that CQ supporters are on the bandwagon and are full of praise of this childish undignified ridiculing of it TM and its players.
We do not need to worry for the Saudis and the Alt-right Americans to harm us. We have enough hamvatanis that are a bigger treat to Iran and Iranians than any foreign foe (and before anyone gets his panties crossed, look at our entire history and see that 9 out of 10 times it's some "Iranians" who help the foreigners to harm us, or county's and our culture).
Az ma’st ke bar ma’st.
Real shame......

I like Q and take all his truth telling about our level of football as complement. I hate those foreign coaches who come and tell you what you like to hear and play it safe and "professional".
He wants TM to succeed more than Iranians want it to succeed. He has good reasons perhaps more realistic reasons than our nationalistic pride with just sheer Gheyrat and all that. Some of us like to hear lies and nice words.
What amuses me is that some people here act as if they are the ones who are going to be playing the games!! And they need to hear encouraging words and are upset because Q has burst their bubbles.
I like this guy as he is not condescending but rather truthful telling you what you need to do.
The fact that he tells you this shows that he really cares about TM much more than many many of us and shows that he believes we can be up there with the greatest footballing nations. That is his frustration with us. But we fail to understand his way of thinking.
P.S. I remember some people would start salavat threads for TM to do well!! Thank God we have moved on from that.