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    #31
    please stop rumors specially in times when full support for TM is required. It serves no purpose.

    Besides, a couch has the authority to make his own decisions for player selection and CQ's decision would need to be respected.

    CQ has also dropped other players in the past where people raised questions, but he proved he knows what he is doing.

    We need to trust that CQ would not do anything to harm TM.

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      #32
      I remember 4 years ago when Khalatbari was dropped from squad —> same thing here!
      CQ knows what he is doing after 8 years in Eye-Ran. He knows the team AND the opponents better than all of us combined!
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        #33
        I respect CQ's decision as he has really been a legend for TM.

        Still, there are always things I disagree with, and cutting Jalal is the biggest disagreement I ever had for him.

        I always thought cutting Khalatbari and young Azmoun for 2014 was risky because both of them were X-factor players who could make the difference, but Jalal is the absolute rock, even in his mid-30s and with less pace than before (mind you, he never had much pace to begin with). He commands and reads the game.

        This is a big gamble and let's hope it pays off. I am nervous though...

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          #34
          He surely has valid reason after almost 7 years in Iran. I'm fully confident that he selects the most useful player to get the best results. In CQ we trust.

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            #35
            Seyed Jalal dropped because of age and speed, although I love the guy and think he would've been a great morale boost to the squad in general with his leadership qualities and gheyrat. Ghafouri I think should also be in the squad in place of khanzadeh or even Rezaeian (i rate him better than both). But again khanzadeh is maybe more versatile in the back 4 than Ghafouri.

            Overall I disagree with those two not being in the list, although Majid Hosseini I think is a good choice in the list. But i trust that Queiroz knows what he's doing and I have 100% trust in him.

            I'm very curious to see who he will cut from the list of 24 though!

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              #36
              Hosseini is an Iranian Legend like Krimi, Daei, Nekounam, Mahdavikia and so on but now he ist too old. We can't play with him against Silva, D.Costa, Ronaldo and co.
              I never expected such a good display from M.Hosseini. I think he was just too good. PAG and M.Hosseini will be a good Duo

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                #37
                Since when hosseini was maldini?
                Legend of Asia but old and slow on the international side. Put your feelings aside its cq who has to make the tough decisions
                WE ARE THE UNDER DOGS

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                  #38
                  Guys, ultimately you can only have 2 CB's on the field at any given time since we don't play a 5-X-X formation and you rarely pull out (sub) CB's.

                  Both Montazeri and Hosseini are older and there's no way they would have managed together for 90 minutes against Spain or Portugal, even Morocco would have been pushing their limits.

                  So PAG was practically guaranteed a spot and it was between Hosseini and Montazeri. CQ decided to go with Montazeri. Now, if we're up 2-0 against Morocco and controlling the match, or down 3-0 against Spain with 15 minutes to go maybe he'll bring in one of the youngsters so they get some WC exposure and gain some experience at the highest level.

                  If Hosseini was there, there would be no benefit in bringing him in at the 75th minute of the match. He's not going to be noticed by scouts at his age and it's not like he's got years ahead of him as far as TM goes.

                  The only situation Hosseini could have been helpful was to switch him in game 2 with Montazeri and let the latter be a little rested for game 3 but I honestly don't think Jalal has either the speed or stamina at this point to deal with the Spanish offense - if match 2 was against Morocco, it may have been a different story.

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                    #39
                    It's all nice and dandy how you all try to come up for a reasoning of why CQ dropped him.

                    However, CQ having a pretty big mouth and not shying away from bad mouthing Iranian prominents and TM every chance he gets, should do the explaining himself. He should be more than able and wouldn't need a couple of keyboard warriors on PFDC fighting his battles for him.

                    CQ is the coach and he is responsible for TM and its roster/selection. So he can do whatever he wishes and he has every right to even cut an inform and young Hosseini if he wishes so. He just needs to explain his reasons so everyone is informed.

                    He, despite his big words and blind support he gets here from some, showed yet another example of his unprofessionalism despite being in business more than most members of this board being on this earth (and being a top 10 best paid coach of the world cup).

                    Every coach of every country cuts a player that surprises people, for what ever reason. The rookies do it like CQ (and don't come with the weak excuse that Hosseini didn't play the last 5 games so it wasn't out of blue. He didn't play half of our regulars and your excuses for the weak tactical play and line up was that CQ was trying to show us that players who play in Iran aren't fit and he's testing new players).

                    Professional coaches start by publicly hint at their decision, talk to the player way up front about their decision, and then ease the public into understanding why a big player isn't going to be selected. Hosseini is not a nobody and we shouldn't have found out about him not being selected only after the list was published.

                    Yet another example of big unprofessional failure by CQ who is the ”sarvar" of many here and is able to have one blooper after another without people saying "I like the guy, I support the guy, he's the best coach we have, but this could have been handled better".

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Babak agha View Post
                      Typical hypocrisy of CQ defenders: Hosseini couldn't be improved in 4 years time but CQ could improve the whole team in 8 weeks time on all levels, including stamina, passing, jumping, speed etc. (Go read the comments on Karimi's bashing thread after the 90 episode).
                      Younger players usually raise to the occasion during tournaments because of their fitness and adrenaline, and we have seen that many times. Older players tend to show the same performances and barely go above their own level.

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                        #41
                        ^ blablabla..... And when we are defending the decision to cut a younger player and keep an over the hill player (Gucci for example) we say he isn't tested on higher levels, will lose his head under stress and it's experience that counts during tournaments..... Blablabla

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Adesor Vafaseya View Post
                          Very meaningful to me!

                          But then again I am what they call Queiroshy!
                          We should all be very Queiroshy!

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Bi-honar View Post
                            Guys, ultimately you can only have 2 CB's on the field at any given time since we don't play a 5-X-X formation and you rarely pull out (sub) CB's.

                            Both Montazeri and Hosseini are older and there's no way they would have managed together for 90 minutes against Spain or Portugal, even Morocco would have been pushing their limits.

                            So PAG was practically guaranteed a spot and it was between Hosseini and Montazeri. CQ decided to go with Montazeri. Now, if we're up 2-0 against Morocco and controlling the match, or down 3-0 against Spain with 15 minutes to go maybe he'll bring in one of the youngsters so they get some WC exposure and gain some experience at the highest level.

                            If Hosseini was there, there would be no benefit in bringing him in at the 75th minute of the match. He's not going to be noticed by scouts at his age and it's not like he's got years ahead of him as far as TM goes.

                            The only situation Hosseini could have been helpful was to switch him in game 2 with Montazeri and let the latter be a little rested for game 3 but I honestly don't think Jalal has either the speed or stamina at this point to deal with the Spanish offense - if match 2 was against Morocco, it may have been a different story.
                            To add to your comments, Montazeri could aslo be played as RB, just like WC2014 when he performed very well with some nice runs.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Babak agha View Post
                              It's all nice and dandy how you all try to come up for a reasoning of why CQ dropped him.
                              However, CQ having a pretty big mouth and not shying away from bad mouthing Iranian prominents and TM every chance he gets, should do the explaining himself. He should be more than able and wouldn't need a couple of keyboard warriors on PFDC fighting his battles for him.
                              CQ is the coach and he is responsible for TM and its roster/selection. So he can do whatever he wishes and he has every right to even cut an inform and young Hosseini if he wishes so. He just needs to explain his reasons so everyone is informed.
                              He, despite his big words and blind support he gets here from some, showed yet another example of his unprofessionalism despite being in business more than most members of this board being on this earth (and being a top 10 best paid coach of the world cup).
                              Every coach of every country cuts a player that surprises people, for what ever reason. The rookies do it like CQ (and don't come with the weak excuse that Hosseini didn't play the last 5 games so it wasn't out of blue. He didn't play half of our regulars and your excuses for the weak tactical play and line up was that CQ was trying to show us that players who play in Iran aren't fit and he's testing new players).
                              Professional coaches start by publicly hint at their decision, talk to the player way up front about their decision, and then ease the public into understanding why a big player isn't going to be selected. Hosseini is not a nobody and we shouldn't have found out about him not being selected only after the list was published.
                              Yet another example of big unprofessional failure by CQ who is the ”sarvar" of many here and is able to have one blooper after another without people saying "I like the guy, I support the guy, he's the best coach we have, but this could have been handled better".
                              Don't think CQ has to provide any explanation to you or me why he is has chosen the team that he has. He is a coach of a team not a PR person or a politician that relies on his communication and messages to win hearts. As long as his team does the best he is doing fine irrespective of how he communicate to us. So quit expecting a fully explained verbal communication on why he has dropped or chosen a player. Also remember the more he explains the more he is giving his thinking and tactics away. So better for us to accept it as it is and see what the outcome will be.

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Kiarash View Post
                                Younger players usually raise to the occasion during tournaments because of their fitness and adrenaline, and we have seen that many times. Older players tend to show the same performances and barely go above their own level.
                                I dunno man, I feel the opposite is the case when it comes to defenders and in particular centre backs. Older CBs rise to the fore and bring a calming influence or play out of their skin.

                                Paul McGrath in 1994 against Italy became less man, more superhuman. Players like Laurent Blanc just seemed to reach another level in their world cup teams. The unifying factor in many of the best centre-back performances in world cups are their ages at 30+ (I'm thinking Baresi, Couto, Passarella, Beckenbauer, Maldini).

                                Even for Iran, we have seen our 30+ age centre-back pairings be better in world cups than we expected (Mohammadkhani and Khakpour, Golmohammadi/Bakhtiarizadeh and Rezaei, Sadeghi and Hosseini).

                                As I said before, I trust CQ and hope this pays off.

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