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    #61
    1. His contract was until the end of the WC, so the natural expectation would be that he would leave after it. Why you would think otherwise is strange.

    2. It is not uncommon (in fact, its pretty common) for players, fans, media to know if their coach is going to leave after a big tournament. From WC 2006 onwards, I can give you a coaches from each tourney who left after it was over, and players, fans, media, etc.. knew about it. CQ is not doing anything groundbreaking here.

    3. This should have no negative impact on the players - in fact I think it would have a positive impact. Imagine if you were a player and CQ was your coach. You are at the WC, and you know this *might* be the last few games you are together as player and coach. I know I would raise my game and try to finish everything with a bang.. I don't think I would be sulking and moaning that it is the end of an era. And if you would.... well then its probably best you didn't become a professional footballer.

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      #62
      Originally posted by ramingeles2000 View Post
      This is the kind of iranian bullshit mentality that's rooted in jealousy. It reminds me of how IR used the false rumors of the Shah stealing $50billion dollars when he left Iran, when it was later proven in court that he'd taken something like $60M. Iranians get SO upset when someone is making money. I love that people point to CQ being the 7th-highest paid at the world cup. WHO GIVES A SHIT. it's not your money. would you rather the regime spent it on Hezbollah?
      Gold. Pure gold.

      They act like every penny of CQ's contract is either taken out of their own bank account or would have been spent on building stadiums and training facilities!

      Any money taken out of that contract would have been embezzled as usual or spent building a road in some Lebanese village. Stop kidding yourselves.

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        #63
        Originally posted by ramingeles2000 View Post
        Maybe he coaches because he likes it? maybe he likes coaching in iran because it's a football-crazy nation with a deep talent pool that's untapped? maybe he sees our potential? maybe because he gets more autonomy and respect than he would in a country like portugal?
        This is the kind of iranian bullshit mentality that's rooted in jealousy. It reminds me of how IR used the false rumors of the Shah stealing $50billion dollars when he left Iran, when it was later proven in court that he'd taken something like $60M. Iranians get SO upset when someone is making money. I love that people point to CQ being the 7th-highest paid at the world cup. WHO GIVES A SHIT. it's not your money. would you rather the regime spent it on Hezbollah?
        Are you people fucking forgetting that we didn't qualify for WC2002 with a squad much more talented than this, and didn't even make the playoff in 2010? are you forgetting that it's our first time in back to back world cups AND WE DONT HAVE a single legionnaire in the top 5 leagues. It's so incredibly clear to anyone with an ounce of intelligence and no hidden agenda that this man is the absolute best thing that's ever happened to our football, that these comments drive me insane.
        The only reason we had a CHANCE at getting him in the first place is because his stock was at an all-time low with the FIFA doping scandal he had in Portugal. Good fucking luck getting another coach of his caliber. I can't wait to see all the haters reactions when we suck ass again, our legionnaires return to arab countries, and we qualify for the WC every 8-12 years.
        You don't know what you're talking about. When in negotiations with South Africa in 2014 for their head coaching position, he made similar salary expectations. Surprise that's the same $2 mil figure he gets paid by Iran now.
        The Portuguese reportedly wants about four times the $50,000-a-month (37,000 euros) earned by Gordon Igesund, who was dumped after an unsuccessful two-year reign.
        https://citizen.co.za/phakaaathi/sou...-south-africa/
        He likes the $2 million dollar salary he gets. That's it. He is a professional coach for 30 years now. He doesn't coach because he likes it. He does it for the salary.

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          #64
          Originally posted by ramingeles2000 View Post
          Maybe he coaches because he likes it? maybe he likes coaching in iran because it's a football-crazy nation with a deep talent pool that's untapped? maybe he sees our potential? maybe because he gets more autonomy and respect than he would in a country like portugal?

          This is the kind of iranian bullshit mentality that's rooted in jealousy. It reminds me of how IR used the false rumors of the Shah stealing $50billion dollars when he left Iran, when it was later proven in court that he'd taken something like $60M. Iranians get SO upset when someone is making money. I love that people point to CQ being the 7th-highest paid at the world cup. WHO GIVES A SHIT. it's not your money. would you rather the regime spent it on Hezbollah?

          Are you people fucking forgetting that we didn't qualify for WC2002 with a squad much more talented than this, and didn't even make the playoff in 2010? are you forgetting that it's our first time in back to back world cups AND WE DONT HAVE a single legionnaire in the top 5 leagues. It's so incredibly clear to anyone with an ounce of intelligence and no hidden agenda that this man is the absolute best thing that's ever happened to our football, that these comments drive me insane.

          The only reason we had a CHANCE at getting him in the first place is because his stock was at an all-time low with the FIFA doping scandal he had in Portugal. Good fucking luck getting another coach of his caliber. I can't wait to see all the haters reactions when we suck ass again, our legionnaires return to arab countries, and we qualify for the WC every 8-12 years.
          Lol, I care if he's 7th highest paid coach in the world, because Iran clearly isn't top 7 teams in the world. Aint got anything to do with jealousy, more about the fact that despite all the hype around him, he still hasn't produced any special for us yet. He can start doing that by doing something this world cup (tie against Spain or Portugal) worth 2.5 million a year. Heck, freaking Schaefer could probably get us a win against Morocco. I want CQ to produce something tangible on the field to justify being the 7th highest paid coach in the world. None of these intagible "he changed our culture,etc..."

          Originally posted by persiangodfather View Post
          Bro Please, he probably tried handling it behind closed doors and the federation proabably behaved like animals.. Screw IFF I hope cq stays so we have a team if not we might as well just send the u 17 team to the asian cup
          IFF probably made logical demand that he shows his worth at the world cup first before throwing $2.5 million+ a year at him for 4 years.

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            #65
            Originally posted by AryaGod View Post
            i must say that before quieroz irans football was treated like a joke by us in the US, now we still think that Iran isnt extremely strong, but they are respectable and can give us a fight
            Are you a USMNT supporter?

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              #66
              Or coach Javier Clemente would be a nice replacement. We got meany options for Iran. But I still believe that CQ will stay he is only talking but it would be good till WC 2022

              Javier wanted to be our coach before CQ

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                #67
                Originally posted by The View Post
                Man, What's with the condescending attacks on Hoorad? Sure he might be a younger memeber, and he's entitled to his opinion. I'm 29 and remember Team melli games from the times you're talking about and still agree with his statement. It has nothing to do with age. Sometimes people just see things differently than you do, that doesn't mean they're dumb or childish. Jeez...
                I'm not obligated to respect an uninformed opinion. Uninformed opinions get people like Donald Trump elected

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by The View Post
                  Lol, I care if he's 7th highest paid coach in the world, because Iran clearly isn't top 7 teams in the world. Aint got anything to do with jealousy, more about the fact that despite all the hype around him, he still hasn't produced any special for us yet. He can start doing that by doing something this world cup (tie against Spain or Portugal) worth 2.5 million a year. Heck, freaking Schaefer could probably get us a win against Morocco. I want CQ to produce something tangible on the field to justify being the 7th highest paid coach in the world. None of these intagible "he changed our culture,etc..."



                  IFF probably made logical demand that he shows his worth at the world cup first before throwing $2.5 million+ a year at him for 4 years.
                  You can bring Guardiola Conte Ancelotti Mourinho to coach Iran vs this group and we still wouldnt make it out but yet you have big expectation lol
                  WE ARE THE UNDER DOGS

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by pdot View Post
                    You don't know what you're talking about. When in negotiations with South Africa in 2014 for their head coaching position, he made similar salary expectations. Surprise that's the same $2 mil figure he gets paid by Iran now.

                    https://citizen.co.za/phakaaathi/sou...-south-africa/
                    He likes the $2 million dollar salary he gets. That's it. He is a professional coach for 30 years now. He doesn't coach because he likes it. He does it for the salary.
                    Name me one professional - even those who "love" what they do - who would do that job without getting paid. Of course he likes getting paid, we all do. And i don't know what relevance your south africa comment has.

                    I'll be flagging these posts for 3 years from now when we need Uzbekistan to tie Thailand, and Japan to NOT lose to Oman (but score at least 3 goals), and us to win 3 games in a row to qualify to the world cup.

                    CQ bashers fall into one of several categories:

                    1) young kids who play too much fifa and don't know why we don't play with a more tiki-taka joga bonita approach, and who never lived through true dark ages in iranian football
                    2) jealous PP/PGL fans susceptible to AK8, ghalenoi, branko comments
                    3) contrarians/jealous types who don't like that a foreigner is making so much money / getting so much respect in iran

                    I'm not saying he's immune to criticism. But it's obvious he cares, it's obvious he's world class, and it's obvious we've made INCREDIBLE improvements under him (look at our # of legionnaires - 90% of them would be in PGL or arab leagues if CQ wasn't in charge). Plus, he's charismatic, likeable and a good global representative of our football.

                    I don't know what else you want.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by The View Post
                      Lol, I care if he's 7th highest paid coach in the world, because Iran clearly isn't top 7 teams in the world. Aint got anything to do with jealousy, more about the fact that despite all the hype around him, he still hasn't produced any special for us yet.
                      If your bio didn't say 29 I would have thought you're 19 at most. Your reasoning is so simplistic and uninformed it's downright embarrassing.

                      I had no idea that a coach's contract is supposed to be directly proportional to the team's ranking, regardless of where that team was before he took it over! Apparently keeping Iran at the top of Asian rankings against nations whose 2nd division clubs have the same budget as our national team is not good enough. Qualifying to the WC twice in a row for the first time ever with a country used to making the cup every 8 years is not good enough. Making the world cup as the top team in the group with 2 games to spare is not good enough for a country that needed "The Miracle of Melbourne" with its Golden Generation and in 2006 needed a 95th minute goal in Qatar to avoid getting knocked out before the final qualifying round had even started!

                      Please. I beg of you. READ MORE, POST LESS.

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by ramingeles2000 View Post
                        Name me one professional - even those who "love" what they do - who would do that job without getting paid. Of course he likes getting paid, we all do. And i don't know what relevance your south africa comment has.
                        I'll be flagging these posts for 3 years from now when we need Uzbekistan to tie Thailand, and Japan to NOT lose to Oman (but score at least 3 goals), and us to win 3 games in a row to qualify to the world cup.
                        CQ bashers fall into one of several categories:
                        1) young kids who play too much fifa and don't know why we don't play with a more tiki-taka joga bonita approach, and who never lived through true dark ages in iranian football
                        2) jealous PP/PGL fans susceptible to AK8, ghalenoi, branko comments
                        3) contrarians/jealous types who don't like that a foreigner is making so much money / getting so much respect in iran
                        I'm not saying he's immune to criticism. But it's obvious he cares, it's obvious he's world class, and it's obvious we've made INCREDIBLE improvements under him (look at our # of legionnaires - 90% of them would be in PGL or arab leagues if CQ wasn't in charge). Plus, he's charismatic, likeable and a good global representative of our football.
                        I don't know what else you want.
                        You changed your mind quickly from "maybe this, maybe that". CQ will leave Iran as coach as soon as he has another job that pays the same. He showed it in 2014 with South Africa. He is 65 years old. Whatever he makes in the next few years will be his retirement money.
                        He is in Iran to coach for his $2 mil salary. That's it. He deals with IFF because they pay him what he wants. If IFF can't why would he stay?

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                          #72
                          Originally posted by TM4LIFE View Post
                          He himself has helped to cultivate that crop of players. Before Quieroz you would rarely see our IPL and youth team players be so motivated to go to Europe, regardless of the league. Do you think someone like Mohammadi would want to drop everything he has in Iran and play in cold ass Russia for two years because he likes the weather? Or Ramin taking the risk to play for Oostende? Or even if you look at the youth teams, players like Shariati are already making the move. I don't think it's by accident that we've gone from having only Nekounam and Shojaei be our legionnares to having half our squad play abroad. When Quieroz first came he made the message very clear (through invitations to ANY foreign based iranians ala Davari, Beitashour, Dejagah, Gucci) that he prefers picking those who have developed under european systems, and for obvious reasons. Someone with a background in MU, RM, etc can clearly see IPL is an extremely sub-par league. SO, what happens? Players take the risk and make the move that is best for their footballing career, and not just their pockets. Add to this the fact that our team has over the past 6 years been playing some of the most unified and disciplined football we have ever seen from TM. I know it's a bit of an echo chamber to say this on PFDC but he really has been a gem for our football, and has been requesting the BASIC accommodations for a successful national team. So PLEASE, it makes me die a little inside whenever people back IFF and say that they've provided him with everything he's asked for, because 'everything' is just the baseline standard of what a national team needs. Even then, we still find ourselves watching our team play Sierra Leona D team.

                          I didn’t say we don’t owe him that, but that’s just part of the job and what is expected of a coach of this calibre. You are too young to remember but in the early 2000’s we also had a lot of player in Europe, that doesn’t mean that malyi khohan was a great coach. This is besides the point, CQ has done a lot for our football, however With the means avialble to IFF during sanctions and after sanctions I think they have done the best they could. Do you know how difficult it is for them to transfer his salary? Forget everthing else, he has been provided the best we can offer at our current situation and it’s as simple as that.
                          United We Stand, One nation one heart one goal

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                            #73
                            This is all about the bejamins. CQ trying to get paid and he deserves it.

                            Money talks, everything else walks.

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                              #74
                              Originally posted by ramingeles2000 View Post
                              Name me one professional - even those who "love" what they do - who would do that job without getting paid. Of course he likes getting paid, we all do. And i don't know what relevance your south africa comment has.

                              I'll be flagging these posts for 3 years from now when we need Uzbekistan to tie Thailand, and Japan to NOT lose to Oman (but score at least 3 goals), and us to win 3 games in a row to qualify to the world cup.

                              CQ bashers fall into one of several categories:

                              1) young kids who play too much fifa and don't know why we don't play with a more tiki-taka joga bonita approach, and who never lived through true dark ages in iranian football
                              2) jealous PP/PGL fans susceptible to AK8, ghalenoi, branko comments
                              3) contrarians/jealous types who don't like that a foreigner is making so much money / getting so much respect in iran

                              I'm not saying he's immune to criticism. But it's obvious he cares, it's obvious he's world class, and it's obvious we've made INCREDIBLE improvements under him (look at our # of legionnaires - 90% of them would be in PGL or arab leagues if CQ wasn't in charge). Plus, he's charismatic, likeable and a good global representative of our football.

                              I don't know what else you want.
                              This is why I said if cq leaves we should just fold the team because I for one cant go back to that bullshit
                              WE ARE THE UNDER DOGS

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                                #75
                                i dont think IFF can afford paying any other coac 2M euro per year after CQ. it will prob be an iranian cach for Asian CUp, who are the favs? Nekounam?

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