Carlos Queiroz In or Carlos Queiroz Out?

[nisfejahan]

He should be given Iranian Citizenship and be appointed the Double-Supreme Leader.

These facts are not in dispute:

1- The results have been unparalleled in our modern football history.

2- He has brought discipline to the notoriously undisciplined TM.

3- Has eliminated bazikon salari or pimadonnas.

4- Qualified twice to WC with what I would say is not the greatest generation.

5- Encouraged the young players to go to Europe and set their sights higher than the shitty Arab leagues.

6- Defended the honor of Iranian football and players with passion.

7- Took on the corrupt IFF and the 2-bit coaches who have been trying to undermine him from the moment he arrived.

8- And remember he joined TM at almost the peak of sanctions and worked tirelessly to overcome obstacles.

And please do not show inferiority complex by arguing that he is respected because he is Farangi. No, Branko was Farangi too. A BUST. Balzewic, although better than Branko, could not qualify Iran with much better players and much weaker competition. No, he is respected, because of his results, his passion, and his commitment. PERIOD.

[DR Strangemoosh]

Perfect example of a religious hardliner behavior and approach to a discussion.....everything CQ did and does is divine, all others are infidels and a treat to his religious believe which should be eliminated.
And he has forgotten the Brankovic hardliners here some years ago doing the same thing as he is doing now. One of the few people who stood up to them (because back the MR used to post but I don'y know why he stopped as he at least was open to a normal discussion) was Dr. Doom.
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Agha, even though you have somewhat insulted me here I respect you and I champion your right to criticise. And you have forgotten my role and articles in criticising "bot parasti" in previous regimes, which is rather sad. You have forgotten all my points about Branko....

My huge frustration in the Branko era was that criticism was muted, often in this very forum.... It's a bad situation if one criticises those who promulgate the right for all of us to criticise..., anything really.

[OzzyOscy]

Perhaps I could apply for next manager. I did quite well with Iran on Football Manager. I would have a chance too.

Amoo Jan, Thanks for the feedback.

Me personally share the same sentiments about CQ as you do. Yes he is the best coach and yes it's better if he stays. But dige nabayad shooresho daravord ke.

Like I said in my post, it's okay for people to gang up on those few who dare to say something different and start a lynching party (do they not step on other people's toes?) but when the fact is pointed out and replied to in the same spirit, it's not tolerable. Hence, my opinion on why people who had something valuable to say do not post much anymore as this is the thanks that they get......

Just for the record, I appreciate your feedback and you'll be the last one I would accuse of having double standards on this forum based on your track record. So I'll dial it down a notch and don't say much about the topic anymore. I will go and bother Kamran about his flat earth theory for a while j/k

Aha this is what I was talking about when I mentioned respect.

Any other forum, the person would've replied angrier and told people to shut up. "I appreciate your feedback" and "I'll dial it down" is something you would never read elsewhere, it would be "you're wrong" and "stop crying" trying to look macho.

[FeLFeL]

Just because someone holds an opinion that is controversial does not make it relevant for a long time. "Look at me, I have a controversial position", but do you really have to argue about that?
Anyone who does not want to recognize CQ's achievements has forgotten the days when they had to shiver in front of Bahrain when TM played headless when TM was defensively an amateur team.
CQ has stabilized our team, made our defensive the best in Asia, defended well even at the World Cup and was never in danger at the Asian Cup until Pooladi decided "I fuck this up". Anyone who says any other third-rate Iranian coach has done it or Iran was a force in Asia even without CQ seems to forget that we were completely inconsistent! South Korea never won against us since Queiroz is here.
Apart from the 0-0 in the meaningless game of the World Cup qualifiers, we have defeated in four consecutive matches South Korea, whether in Iran or Korea. We only lost 9 games out of 76 under CQ.
Our last competitive defeat was, if you forgot, was the game against Bosnia at the 2014 World Cup, our last real defeat since the Tunisia game was 3-1 against Sweden 2015, which means we had not lost in nearly three years.
CQ gets an average of 2.12 points per game. Teams like Germany (2.19), France (2.01), Italy (2.01), etc., have a quota like this. Since CQ, we are as dominant in Asia as the mentioned teams, that's not a given, but you do as if this were the most normal thing in the world!
We play a solid and good football, with passion, our team is tactically top, at European level, we never had this level, in former times we were only supported by strong single player performances.
Had we had such a coach during our Golden Age (Daei, Azizi, Mahdavikia, Bagheri), we would have taken Asia apart, and at the World Cup we would probably have been far more successful. If you guys do not want to accept all this, you either want attention or you have little idea about the game.

I agree with almost everything you said except for blaming the Iraq game in AC on Pouladi, watch the tape again, If any one person is to blame for our loss in that game; it'd be Benjamin Williams not Pouladi.

[OzzyOscy]

I agree with almost everything you said except for blaming the Iraq game in AC on Pouladi, watch the tape again, If any one person is to blame for our loss in that game; it'd be Benjamin Williams not Pouladi.

If he didn't cheat and act like a South American, the situation would've never happened. He not only dived, but he then ignored the referee and time-wasted. 2 yellow card offences alone, not even including the initial kick out at the goalkeeper.

It was so embarrassing seeing him do that after telling people how incredibly sporting Iran teams are. We just looked like every other dirty team that got their comeuppance. And he never played for Iran again.

[sarbaz]

And also let’s face it , CQ is right
I mean IFF should not just intent to sign him for 6 months , that’s not professional I mean CQ after 7 years deserves better than that for sure , specially after all he has done for us.
Either wait till after the WC and see how the TM does or if you wanta extend his contract now, then offer him another 4 years .
That’s more the ethical way to do it.
We at least owe him that much.

[teammelli91]

Carlos Queiroz in

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Offtopic!

This is a football forum!

[Sam van Dam]

If he didn't cheat and act like a South American, the situation would've never happened. He not only dived, but he then ignored the referee and time-wasted. 2 yellow card offences alone, not even including the initial kick out at the goalkeeper.
It was so embarrassing seeing him do that after telling people how incredibly sporting Iran teams are. We just looked like every other dirty team that got their comeuppance. And he never played for Iran again.

i agree Pooled should have gotten up, but at the same time the ref was a jackass. when he gave Pooled a yellow, the iraqi's had to remind him that was Pooladi's second of the match. CQ complained about Ben Williams in our first group game, so what does the AFC do? have him whistle our match vs iraq and we played 10 vs 12 for over 70 minutes.
also at the end of extra time, and iraqi player kicked Haghighi on the shoulder, it was brutal, but of course Al-Ben Williams didn't book him

Edit: Pooled = Pooladi lol damn auto correct

[Paradigm]

Seven years is a long time. CQ has done well as far as the World Cup qualification goes (considering Iran both times got the easier groups); however, missed to win the Asian Cup in 2015. His style is defensive play with counterattack that leads to ties or narrow victories. I believe it is not very interesting to watch and a departure from the times when players like Daie, Bagheri, Azizi, Karimi, and Hashemian scored many goals in fluid style games. Need a balanced headcoach with discipline and a bit younger who will be enthusiastic and line up periodic bigtime friendlies, or participate in some regional tournaments. Having said this, if he manages to reach the last eight or better in the World Cup 2018, then extend his contract for four years. Otherwise research and hire a decent replacement.

[Babak agha]

Agha, even though you have somewhat insulted me here I respect you and I champion your right to criticise. And you have forgotten my role and articles in criticising "bot parasti" in previous regimes, which is rather sad. You have forgotten all my points about Branko....

My huge frustration in the Branko era was that criticism was muted, often in this very forum.... It's a bad situation if one criticises those who promulgate the right for all of us to criticise..., anything really.

I didn't mean to insult you or anyone else who I quoted. Nor did I look at who it was and what their past record was or what they meant.

And yes I agree with what you say, people would get banned left and right for criticizing Branco..... At least that doesn't happen now...

[SkyeKingu]

Seven years is a long time. CQ has done well as far as the World Cup qualification goes (considering Iran both times got the easier groups); however, missed to win the Asian Cup in 2015. His style is defensive play with counterattack that leads to ties or narrow victories. I believe it is not very interesting to watch and a departure from the times when players like Daie, Bagheri, Azizi, Karimi, and Hashemian scored many goals in fluid style games. Need a balanced headcoach with discipline and a bit younger who will be enthusiastic and line up periodic bigtime friendlies, or participate in some regional tournaments. Having said this, if he manages to reach the last eight or better in the World Cup 2018, then extend his contract for four years. Otherwise research and hire a decent replacement.

LOOOOOOOOL

[shahname]

Definitely CQ IN.

His work is not over yet.

With him we have the best chance to win AC2019.

And qualify for WC2022...

[AllStarMomo]

I would love to have him for the AC2019.
But i have the feeling he will leave us after the WC2018...

For the WC2022 i would like to have some new energy and some new coaching. Who? I dont know.

[KC McElroy]

There was a thread that I couldn't find regarding whether people thought winning the Asian Cup was more important or qualifying for the World Cup. Does anyone have a link to it? The discussion (and poll if I remember correctly) in that thread is very relevant to this thread.