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POLL: Should Jalal Hosseini be re-invited to Team Melli for the World Cup?

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    #46
    Originally posted by Adesor Vafaseya View Post
    I voted: NO
    Reason: I saw the same episode of questions in WC 2014 with Khalatbari and CQ proved his point!
    And same in 1998 when Ivic selected a young unkown Pashazadeh who showed to be our best defender playing him as CD together with Nader Mohammadkhani and moved Khakpour to right (RD).
    Our defense will look like this:

    Montazeri----PAG-----Majeed Hosseini-----Mohammadi

    So my Vote is No as well. The Reason? Because in CQ we trust

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      #47
      Originally posted by Essi View Post
      And same in 1998 when Ivic selected a young unkown Pashazadeh who showed to be our best defender playing him as CD together with Nader Mohammadkhani and moved Khakpour to right (RD).
      Our defense will look like this:
      Montazeri----PAG-----Majeed Hosseini-----Mohammadi
      So my Vote is No as well. The Reason? Because in CQ we trust
      ???????????????????????

      Pashazadeh played as left back for all three games (occasionally pushing to be an overlapping left wing-back against the US)? The centre-defence partnership was Khakpour and Mohammadkhani. Zarrincheh was right-back.

      Where did you get the CD from? I mean this isn't really controversial, Pashazadeh was almost as far out as a left-back in a flat back 4 as you could possibly be! He played CD much later at club level of course but not for TM.

      And he wasn't unknown. Majid Hosseini has played 1 game for Iran at centre back whereas Pashazadeh had 10 caps for TM by the time of the world cup.

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        #48
        I'd rather have a reliable substitute … than a risky one

        if the need arises, the coach shd feel comfortable he's sending in a capable defender, if his main defenders get a niggling injury or feel uncomfortable. Without a reliable sub, the coach may not make the change and … team may pay for it!


        #Yes_to_Hosseini

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          #49
          There is no reason to vote no, do we have better options ? is he slower than cheshmi ? dont think so, is he smarter than cheshmi ? think so

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            #50
            CQ won't bring Jalal Hosseini back, but at least I hope he puts Majid Hosseini besides Pouraliganji instead of Cheshmi. This guy is young and a beast!
            ما میمیریم میمیریم ایران رو پس میگیریم

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              #51
              I am and will always be appreciative of Jalal Hosseini's contribution to Team Melli. His leadership, defensive acumen, hard work and professionalism will be missed ... and I voted no because I chose to trust CQ's decision. He and his technical team have access to many more data points and all the intangibles that they somehow measure. I think they have a scientific approach and at the end they had to make a very hard decision. Emotionally, I want Seyed Jalal back yet I rather use my head in this case ... and who knows maybe they will change their mind when they announce the final list next Monday.

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                #52
                As much as Jalal had one for TM for the past several years, I think CQ is trying to change things a bit and Jalal may not fit in with CQ's vision of what he wants to do.

                In the Turkey game (which I thought was not as bad as everyone was screaming about) the defense tried a couple of different strategies. In the beginning (and some other portions) of the game, they were trying to hold a high line. Since TM had never really tried to do that against a decent team, it was punished for it. But, if CQ really wants to hold a high line in some portions of some games, he really needs faster, younger players than Jalal. In essence, the Turkey game was an experiment on how to arrange his defense. I think he took away some lessons from that experiment.

                The main issue during the Turkey game was a DM. Masood, was calm and had good touch and control, but I think he is too slow and also slow in transition to play that role. He would be better off as a playmaker/attacking mid. In general TM is struggling to find someone of Neku's ability or Ando's grit in the DM position. Ezzatollahi seemed very promising for a while, but didn't get the minutes in Russia and is not eligible for the first game anyway. Omid Ebrahimi is ok, but only ok. Hopefully, one of the current players steps into that role and delivers.

                And of course, I trust CQs judgment. He has been correct in almost every decision that I can think of. Although I think I understand his decision on Jalal, I am still not sure I understand it on Vouria.
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                  #53
                  Originally posted by ramingeles2000 View Post
                  i just don't understand why CQ decided to drop him NOW. why didn't he phase him out earlier and give Majid Hosseini the chance?
                  folks on the gol bezan podcast guessed it was CQs way of avoiding pressure. he cut JH at a point in time when nothing (ie media pressure) could do anything about it
                  I think you make compelling points here. How many games has Cheshmi played with the current wc squad? He didn't seem to click well with the rest of the squad and all of a sudden he's going to be put in that position? I just don't understand that

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                    #54
                    Some of us knew 100 days Cheshmi was not good enough for TM at least for the time being. some learned 10 days ago and others 1 day ago and some will never learn. But that does not matter. If someone close to CQ asks him to tell honestly what he thinks he will probably admit his mistake and if he does not then we will have to wait and see.
                    If he never uses Cheshmi in any games then he will have proven that he has made a mistake. If he uses him and the guy performs well, then there is something he could see in him that we could not. Logic tells me that CQ knows it and will not admit his mistake unless he rectifies it. we know one thing for sure that he may recall Jalal and send cheshmi or shojaai home without admitting his error, but we can praise him for being wise and for making the right decision. He can use cheshmi in midfield. he is young and has the energy but he needs someone to back him up and communicate with the goalkeeper. It is a big responsibility to be the last man to defend to support and protect the goalkeeper. He needs more time to develop.
                    If CQ chooses to play with attacking force and mode then Jalal can play 120 minutes but if he chooses to park the bus and let the opponents keep on attacking then Jalal's age may become a factor. So the tactic and style that CQ chooses is a relevant and important factor. With Azmoon, JB Dejagah, and Gucci and... we have enough horse power to make the other teams to calm down and defend, so Jalal can be fine with the great forwards that we have. On the other hand if we were were playing like chickens with an old man and sole man in noke hamleh as Daei then our defenders would get worn out. We gave Argentina hell because we kept on attacking. let's home CQ does that because we want to win and not tie the first game.

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                      #55
                      Is there even a realistic chance CQ recalls him?

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by arash123 View Post
                        Is there even a realistic chance CQ recalls him?
                        Yes...

                        Originally posted by GolfePersique View Post
                        CQ keeps the hopes alive for the standby list!

                        https://twitter.com/FootballPersian/...33056796700673

                        I wouldn't be surprised to see last minute changes.

                        https://www.isna.ir/news/97030904598...7-%DB%8C%DA%A9
                        SHOW TIME!

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                          #57
                          If we had majority question-mark over the exclusion of the ever-servant Jallal, we should have voiced it when CQ dropped him from a number of games ago. How many minutes did Jallal actually play. It was already clear that he’s no longer part of CQ’s plans. The few minutes he got playing against a second string Uzbeks was the final nail.

                          So much as I love him, in my view CQ made the right decision. Now Vouria is a different scenario all together!
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                            #58
                            Originally posted by Leopard View Post
                            Some of us knew 100 days Cheshmi was not good enough for TM at least for the time being. some learned 10 days ago and others 1 day ago and some will never learn. But that does not matter. If someone close to CQ asks him to tell honestly what he thinks he will probably admit his mistake and if he does not then we will have to wait and see.
                            If he never uses Cheshmi in any games then he will have proven that he has made a mistake. If he uses him and the guy performs well, then there is something he could see in him that we could not. Logic tells me that CQ knows it and will not admit his mistake unless he rectifies it. we know one thing for sure that he may recall Jalal and send cheshmi or shojaai home without admitting his error, but we can praise him for being wise and for making the right decision. He can use cheshmi in midfield. he is young and has the energy but he needs someone to back him up and communicate with the goalkeeper. It is a big responsibility to be the last man to defend to support and protect the goalkeeper. He needs more time to develop.
                            If CQ chooses to play with attacking force and mode then Jalal can play 120 minutes but if he chooses to park the bus and let the opponents keep on attacking then Jalal's age may become a factor. So the tactic and style that CQ chooses is a relevant and important factor. With Azmoon, JB Dejagah, and Gucci and... we have enough horse power to make the other teams to calm down and defend, so Jalal can be fine with the great forwards that we have. On the other hand if we were were playing like chickens with an old man and sole man in noke hamleh as Daei then our defenders would get worn out. We gave Argentina hell because we kept on attacking. let's home CQ does that because we want to win and not tie the first game.
                            can you point to some post you made 100 days ago that Cheshmi was not TM quality ?
                            “It is easier to fool the people, than to convince them they have been fooled." - Mark Twain

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                              #59
                              A Simple NO ! After looking at our previous matches i can see that CQ had already deiced to drop hosseini 2-3 months ago. He was experimenting between hossini and khanzadeh / PAG and other Defenders. I think if you guys look out our previous friendly matches this decision will become crystal clear for you guys.

                              I honestly think its because of his height and physique/strength . Also he is very slow. We are playing against top players in the world and I honestly don't think Hosseini can cope with them.

                              Hosseini Height - 182-183 cm
                              Rozbeh Cheshmi - 190cm
                              Khanzadeh - 188 cm


                              Portugal:
                              Pepe - 188 cm ~~35 yrs
                              Bruno Alves - 189 cm ~36yrs
                              José Fonte - 187 ~34yrs
                              William Carvalho - 190 cm - 26 yrs
                              Rúben Dias - 186 cm - 21yrs
                              Ronaldo - 188 cm

                              I think CQ doesn't really believe in shorter player with less physique for worldcup matches.
                              An example is he dropped khalatbari simply cuz he didn't have the physique for World cup.

                              My prediction is that we gonna end up seeing an argentina game style against Portugal and spain. But we will see similar game style that we played against alegria in morocco game.

                              I think montazeri will end up playing against morocco and possibly cheshmi or khanzadeh will end up playing against portugal and spain.

                              Again as i said before i believe in CQ and i'm sure he'll do his best for our TM.

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                                #60
                                we iranians are too funny.

                                we are making this Hosseini issue into a big deal and now are imagining him as the messiah and the saviour of our team.

                                the dude is too old, too slow and on similar level with the rest of our defenders.

                                could he have played in the WC? sure
                                is there a big diff between him and the oter defenders currently? i think not

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