Group B Thread - Iran, Spain, Portugal, Morocco

[Keano]

Thus far Iran has been the only underdog having won a game. Let's see how the rest of the games will be played out tomorrow

[eerooni]

Not sure if a draw is good or bad honestly, there were two possible scenarios for us here:

A) If spain had won
- Would mean that if we got 2 draws in remaining games we were guaranteed progression
- If we lost against spain and drew portugal, we would progress if portugal tied/lost to Morocco

B) Current scenario aka draw
- If we get a win against either Spain or Portugal, we are guaranteed progression
- If we draw one of the teams (Portugal most likely) and lose to the other, we would depend on the team we DREW against to lose points against Morocco
- If we draw against both teams, we would be counting on one of them dropping points against Morocco; otherwise, both other teams would progress over us based on goal difference/goals scored
- If we lose against both teams, we are out as both would have a minimum of 4 points

As things stand, our current situation creates more possibilities for us to progress. HOWEVER, two of these involve games that are out of our control AKA how our opponents fare against Morocco. The only one that is completely in our hands is a major upset, a victory over either portugal or spain (or both). In my opinion, a win will be far more difficult for us than acquiring two draws. Either way i'm just going to enjoy our next two matchups, i mean how often will we even get to see our boys against Ronaldo/Ramos/Isco/Silva/Iniesta etc?

This is the ONLY scenario we can hope for " If we draw against both teams, we would be counting on one of them dropping points against Morocco; otherwise, both other teams would progress over us based on goal difference/goals scored"
and if this happens we will have 5 precious points , then we have to see like you said how each team fares against Morocco ( a brused animal, with nothing to lose, coming at Portugal and Spain and quite possibly drawing one or both.....

[TM4LIFE]

I don't mean to be too much of a pessimist, but this is a likely scenario for us at the moment:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_F...ld_Cup_Group_G

1 Switzerland 2 1 0 7 Advance to knockout stage
2 France 1 2 0 5
3 South Korea 1 1 1 4
4 Togo 0 0 3 0

This was from the 2006 world cup. Korea had beaten their African opposition, and meanwhile two strong European teams had tied in their matchup. Korea then tied France and lost to Switzerland, and both European sides beat Togo.

If i'm to be optimistic, however, our group could very well look like this:

SPN W2 D1 L0 Pts: 7
IRN W1 D1 L1 Pts: 4
POR W0 D3 L0 Pts: 3
MOR W0 D1 L2 Pts: 1

Or this

SPN W2 D1 L0 Pts: 7
IRN W1 D1 L1 Pts: 4
MOR W1 D0 L2 Pts: 3
POR W0 D2 L1 Pts: 2

There is a decent chance we see these scenarios. Morocco, as mentioned by eerooni jan, is like a wounded animal right now and their next game will be against Portugal. It is possible that they will come out guns blazing and pull a very impressive upset; we know that they have the talent and ability to do so, and Portugal (as strong as they were against Spain) can still be exploited by weaker teams. I predict they tie with another high scoreline against morocco, or possibly even lose to them 2-1 or something.

On the other hand, Spain is the perfect example of the kryptonite to our team in my opinion. They are used to dominating possession and establishing a fluid midfield that is extremely difficult to contain. That double teaming our players were doing to win the second balls? It won't work against players like Silva, Isco, Busquetes, and Iniesta. They are too technical, intelligent, and mobile. Here is a clear example of what they players are capable of. They have Costa whose physicality is greater than both of our CB's. Most importantly, they are a patient and mentally strong team. They won't be as easily frustrated as Morocco was. Instead, they will work us around and exploit any gaps that they manage to create by working our defenders around. I hope that we play out of our minds and cause troubles for them, but my prediction is 2-0 or 3-0 in favor of Spain.

However, there is hope yet. This portugal you saw against spain was one that was able to play to its strengths. They were allowed to counter-attack, which means Ronaldo was able to utilize abundant space and create deadly chances. Look at all 3 goals, they were ALL created in transition. When they are given the lions share of possession, however, they often come up short and fail to create anything substantive. This was abundantly clear during Euro2016, and thus i think we have a very realistic shot of holding them to a draw, and maybe even catching them with one of our counters.

[Leicester City]

Who will Iran face in the round of 16?

[Abtin]

Who will Iran face in the round of 16?

If we become second and Russia first, we will meet them. Would be amazing. Anyways, number two in our group will meet number 1 in group A with Russia, Uruguay, Saudi and Egypt.


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[LocalSkeptic]

As of now, based on Fivethirtyeight's Soccer Power Index, Iran has a 34% chance of getting out of the group.



Link: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...p-predictions/

[BehnamT]

As of now, based on Fivethirtyeight's Soccer Power Index, Iran has a 34% chance of getting out of the group.

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Link: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...p-predictions/

they also say iran has 1% chance to win the world cup .
it reminded me of this https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nFTRwD85AQ4#

[Morocco]

Hi Guys.
as promised I m here to congratulate you...needed time to recover was soo hard to watch that and the way it went......Amrabat I thought he died...the last minute own goal...Hurts a lot
a special thanks to all the guys here who welcomed us with a lot of class...all of u guys...also the message of Reza Ghoochannejhad to Bouhaddouz was a class act...I ve been watching lots of videos on you tube I see that Iranians and Moroccans dancing together in the streets...that s the spirit ...as U can see we are not that different...so you were the Best U Won...I wish u sincerely good luck for the rest of the competition...and I ll keep cheering for My team....they fought Like Warriors...against other Warriors...My hat down to Iranian players and your Coach...but also for the fanbase they have..You guys..
*An Injured Lion still wants to Roar*.
cheers.

[Morocco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9j8rwkzN7Kg

[Roozbeh-G2006]

Hi Guys.
as promised I m here to congratulate you...needed time to recover was soo hard to watch that and the way it went......Amrabat I thought he died...the last minute own goal...Hurts a lot
a special thanks to all the guys here who welcomed us with a lot of class...all of u guys...also the message of Reza Ghoochannejhad to Bouhaddouz was a class act...I ve been watching lots of videos on you tube I see that Iranians and Moroccans dancing together in the streets...that s the spirit ...as U can see we are not that different...so you were the Best U Won...I wish u sincerely good luck for the rest of the competition...and I ll keep cheering for My team....they fought Like Warriors...against other Warriors...My hat down to Iranian players and your Coach...but also for the fanbase they have..You guys..
*An Injured Lion still wants to Roar*.
cheers.

This is nice. Thank you. I always got on much better with Moroccans playing Sunday football. We had a lot of mutual respect. Different class of people. We would stand by and shake our heads watching the rest of the guys beat each other to pulps because they didn't pass the ball or just ****** up the chance. LOL

[OzzyOscy]

This thread is getting ridiculous now. Percentages, probability, possible scenarios...

Whatever happens against Spain, Iran can still qualify, so there's no point fussing about it right now. Knowing all this won't matter.

Just sit back and enjoy.

[Mahyar24]

I love this one [emoji3]

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[koorosh]

Worrying statistic

Fifa has published detailed stats on every player and team performance/actualy formation/heat maps.

The Iran-Morocco game has some interesting facts:


https://www.fifa.com/worldcup/matche...24/#match-info

Our team ran 100 km in our match, comparable to Morocco (101), Portugal (102) and Spain (103) km.

Most distance covered were by Amiri (10.47 km), Karim (10.3) & Ramin (9.4 km).

However our passing accuracy is really terrible...at 66%, compared to Morocco (86%), Portugal (85%), and Spain (92%).

I don't know how we are going to improve pass accuracy in our games ahead when were are likely to face more pressure.

[Rabbit]

Guys, I noticed we don't have any digital artworks for Team Melli this year. Last World Cup we had some nice animated artwork of our players with the World Cup theme. Looking for wallpaper and cover photo. Please share them if you do.

[OzzyOscy]

Fifa has published detailed stats on every player and team performance/actualy formation/heat maps.

The Iran-Morocco game has some interesting facts:


https://www.fifa.com/worldcup/matche...24/#match-info

Our team ran 100 km in our match, comparable to Morocco (101), Portugal (102) and Spain (103) km.

Most distance covered were by Amiri (10.47 km), Karim (10.3) & Ramin (9.4 km).

However our passing accuracy is really terrible...at 66%, compared to Morocco (86%), Portugal (85%), and Spain (92%).

I don't know how we are going to improve pass accuracy in our games ahead when were are likely to face more pressure.

Well for one, Ezatolahi will be back, so maybe there will be more efficient passing.

Secondly, against Morocco it was long ball, so pass accuracy will be low. It was this tactic that led to the goal, so it worked.

Thirdly, are we seriously going to compare Iran to Spain and Portugal?