Somewhat embarrassed after the world cup

[Karimi 8]

We’re the best defensive team so far, and we were literally seconds away from topping the group of death

[Irandoust]

Much like Americans and Australians, English sports fans in general prefer their favorite teams to win games and trophies by playing an attacking style and scoring plenty of goals by being as honest as possible.
But the mentality of the present Iran team is exactly the opposite of what you deservedly would want to see from your beloved national team.
Just winning and earning the 3 points at almost all costs is what the majority of the Iranian football fans are looking for from their National team nowadays.
And this was all introduced to our football by CQ himself.
From giving the ball and the possession to the opponent while taking most of the spaces of the field in a very tide defensive manner, to as you said arguing with the referees and time wasting as much as possible by keeping the game 0-0 and looking for that one opportunity to score one goal through either a quick counter attack or on a set piece and winning the game 1-0, to CQ himself getting in huge arguments with opponents staff and the fourth officials in all almost every game, is the way Iran earns its victories on the field and is the exact opposite of what most English fans would want to see.
Among the Iranian football fans, you and me are among the minorities for desiring to see more honest and attacking football from our beloved National team not because they are not capable of playing a possession type football, but because that style is not in demands nowadays.
And so we are forced to go with the flow.

[Shahin K]

Is this something Iranian?
Not only Ramin but also the tall Ezatolahi etc..


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[Mahyar24]

This is from the Portugal match.

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[The Farbod]

You sound like you have some insecurity issues...

[puddha]

Can't please everybody....

[Irandoust]

Well done by the Iranians.

[Irandoust]

You are right about that.
Right or wrong, I am on the side of the few who always wants more and is never satisfied with the 4 points that we earned in the group B which was for the first time for us.
Even though we were placed in the group of death and despite all the shortages, I expected our National team to at least play 4 games in this tournament because this was our 5th world cup participation.
And since most Iranian football fans as well as most pundits along with many non Iranian football fans around the world were more than satisfied with our national team's performances against Morocco, Spain, and Portugal, I will have no choice but to reluctantly accept the fact that it was a good world cup campaign for our beloved National team.
And so this is why that you are right about your statement.

[Adesor Vafaseya]

Well done by the Iranians.

You are right about that.
Right or wrong, I am on the side of the few who always wants more and is never satisfied with the 4 points that we earned in the group B which was for the first time for us.
Even though we were placed in the group of death and despite all the shortages, I expected our National team to at least play 4 games in this tournament because this was our 5th world cup participation.
And since most Iranian football fans as well as most pundits along with many non Iranian football fans around the world were more than satisfied with our national team's performances against Morocco, Spain, and Portugal, I will have no choice but to reluctantly accept the fact that it was a good world cup campaign for our beloved National team.
And so this is why that you are right about your statement.

Is that the best you can do as a senior member?

Can you please CLICK the "QUOTE" button!
It so confusing, to understand who you are quoting or referring to.


PLZ reply to me by quoting me!


thanks

[Sam khan]

We're comparing ourselves with Arabs now!??? Oh my God...

[Sam khan]

I grew up in Hamilton / Burlington area so most of my day-to-day friends are not Iranian. Every WC since I was a kid my friends have been laughing at Iran, but I can tell you, this World Cup every neutral fell in love with this team. Everyone says we played with tremendous heart and deserved to top a group which we had no business even competing in. We have gained a huge amount of respect this WC, and our Team Melli have done a lot for our country beyond just football.
Take pride in our team, and watch a little more football before posting ridiculous threads like this.

I find it telling that people here resort to insults and personal attacks and commonly say I need to watch more football, or football isn't my sport... ESPECIALLY when it comes from people from countries where there is no quality footy to watch and there is no proper football culture.

I'm English (by birth), I've played in teams here in England and my bro plays in a semi-pro Saturday team, I've watched live decent quality footy since the age of 5 and played in tournaments probably (with respect) at a higher level than even the pro footy players in many countries including Canada. This is the homeland of footy, so noone can tell me I don't know about footy, or I don't know about how fans should act or hooligans. Trust me, my team has one of the most vicious sets of hooligans in the country and I've been embroiled in some of those 'scuffles' several times over the years.

I find it quite telling that most of the offensive and dismissive remarks at my genuine and pure hearted comments are from people who really seem not to know a lot about footy culture around the world, people from countries whereby the level of football is very low and there just isn't that understanding of football culture.

Brits find it funny how so many foreign football cultures are sooooo backwards. Yes we invented hooliganism but we have stamped it out and have risen above that. Now it's funny to see Eastern European countries copying the 80s English hooligans.. and I just get the sense from Iran fans from non-footy countries here that there is an awful lot of naivety with the comments I'm getting. You guys do realise it's possible to love your team and your country AND also be critical of some aspects too right??

Yes there is clealry bias against Iran in the British media and that is very annoying, but to "get with the times" we have to be mindful that the football world is trying to move away from hooliganism, play acting, cheating etc and my comments only come from my love of my beloved Iran and how we can do better if we want to. It's not enough to churn out good results. That will come with time anyway as I predict in the next 20 years or so we'll be quite respected and perhaps at the level of other rising teams like Croatia. What won't come so easily though is maturity of players and fans, unless we spot that as an issue now.

[Sam khan]

let's be courteous to one another here. let's not ruin the positive atmosphere our boys created in Russia.

I don't think we lost anyone's respect. But I do agree that the grassrolling has really gotten out of hand. Unfortunately I think it's just a feature of modern football now. Our players are grassrolling more than ever. I realize it's a tactic to frustrate the opponent and kill their momentum (especially stronger opponents) but it doesn't make me proud to see.

The way I interpret this behavior from our boys is that they're doing literally ANYTHING they can to win, and have to resort to these tactics against stronger opposition. It reminds me of one of my cousins in Iran, Shervin. He was 5-6 years younger than the rest of us, scrawny, weighed about 90 pounds. But extremely, EXTREMELY competitive in football and would do anything to win. Hated losing. And as a result, on those hot summer afternoons in Shiraz when we'd whip out the toop-pelastiki and gol-kuchiks, he'd really push the bounds of ethics (call BS fouls, roll on the ground in agony, etc). the kids in the neighborhood wanted to ban him. He was horrible to play against, but great to have on your team. these Shervins grow up and become TM players....it's all part of the game, especially now.

Really hope Shervin doesn't visit these forums, lol.

Good point I accept that.

And thanks for being the first to suggest some courtesy.

Our great culture is built on it... apparently.

[Medzdidz]

I also live in England and have to admit....I loved our fans outside the Portugal team hotel, call it a guilty pleasure.

As for the diving etc this is what football has become, every team does it. I watched the same coverage as you , yes the pundits were moaning about the play acting but I guarantee every one of them play acted in their career or asked the ref for a card etc. Roy Keane and Ian Wright were disgusting and two dirty players, load of rubbish coming out of their mouths.

[Sam khan]

Mate, what is sad is to see is you "embarrassed"... why? because foreign commentators didn't fall in love with Iran?...
Typical Iranian mentality, weak... why do we all ways look to the west for validation? The truth is we did well... we played our hearts out, Spain and Portugal are years ahead of us in terms of football, youth development programs, quality of stadiums etc... and we played head to head with them. Give me a break.. you feel "embarrassed" because a couple of our young players rolled around a bit. Even world class players do that sometimes. You should hold your head up bro. You shouldn't determine the value/ worth of our campaign based on statements of foreign commentators.
Unfortunately this is the trend not only with respect to football but everything else... if only Iranians had more confidence.
That said... it is primarily our own fault that we are not respected, I really believe Iran has the footballing talent and passion to be in the top 10 nations... the only reason we aren't is because of our shitty stadiums, no youth programme, no management programs etc... we can fix all of this with a good 30 year development plan and GAIN the respect of everyone.

I agree with many of your sentiments mate.
I don't look to the west for validation, but the games speak for themselves. Interesting that on the one hand you talk about a typical weak Iranian mentality and no confidence then go on effectively to say that we're shit so therefore need to resort to this bullshit to stand a chance in games and just go on to display low confidence! I think there's some projection going on here
On the contrary I'm saying we're NOT shit and do not need to resort to these tactics as much as we think we do. Besides... they don't work anymore. We rightly beat Morroco through sheer footballing skill and tactics. We almost drew with Spain and was it not for VAR that would have been a draw. We did draw with Portugal. Two of the world's best teams. All this DESPITE our play acting, not because of it. Stop being so defeatist and weak and suggesting we are shit. We are not.
Yes our infrastructure will definitely improve and when it does we will be a very good team. There is no reason why we can't be as good as Spain or Argentina etc.. no reason at all. But now we're not rubbish, we're just a few years of infrastructure and funding away from being quite good. Let's not pretend we're totally rubbish and need to resort to cheating to get points. Cheating got us nothing in those games. Pure brilliance did.

[Pedram123]

The issue with your post is that this is a global problem, not a problem directly related to the Iranian players as you are making it seem to be.