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    #61
    Why are comparing Iceland to Iran
    They have a population of 350,000
    Our population is almost 80,000,000

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      #62
      I agree with you Kasra, however the chances we did get were pretty much clear goal scoring ops, also you have to remember we’re the Islamic republic of Iran. We had shitty prep, no money etc.. this is the best we can do.

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        #63
        Iran played it's own unique interpretation of the game and they
        were good at it. Nobody can claim otherwise based on the performances
        we saw and based on the results.

        Tactically Iran has no problems and can play their style for years to come and
        dominate Asia and be pretty good in World Cups.

        What Iran is missing to go the last mile is technical issues with the players.
        That is were we fail compared to other teams, even teams that played worse than
        us and got less points than Iran.

        The clear evidence of this failure is on the FIFA statistics page which shows Iran last
        in the number of attempts at goal with only 21. But what is worse is that only 4 of
        these were on target, 15 were off target an 2 blocked.


        That means our players need to work on their technical abilities like how to shoot
        with the right part of their foot based on their positioning and to shift their weight
        while shooting to achieve maximum accuracy. That is Iran's biggest weakness at the
        moment.

        CQ has achieved his tactical indoctrination of the team. It is now time for him to work
        and improve Iranian players technically. That's currently the missing ingredient to make
        Iran a top 10 team in the world. Hopefully has has the patience to achieve this goal too.

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          #64
          Originally posted by krol View Post
          Our offense is not based on possession and tiki taka passes, so your stats are irrelevant and misleading (although I love how you completely ignore that we have THE BEST DEFENSE in the entire tournament). Our offense is based on the understanding that most goals, statistically, come from plays where the scoring team closes off the passing lanes and then pressures and dispossess the other team, catching them off guard as they're in the midst of transitioning from defense to offense. MOST goals in football are scored this way. This is how we created just as many dangerous chances against Spain and Portugal as they had against us, despite giving them the bulk of possession.


          The system is damn well sustainable because we qualified twice in a row to the WC for the first time ever, and backed Argentina and Portugal to the wall in two different world cups to the point both needed supergoals to score against us.


          Suuure We'll just ignore that Azmoun missed a one-on-one before that "lucky last minute goal" against Morocco. We'll ignore that against Spain Taremi and Ansarifard were inches from scoring, and Ezatollahi had a goal called back as a questionable offside. We'll ignore that if Taremi had converted that one-on-one with two minutes to go, we'd be playing Russia on Sunday as the winners of the Group of Death.

          Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic. The venom some red fans have against this man and their obsession with discrediting the team he built is downright disgusting. People like you have been throwing EVERYTHING at this team melli for months, hoping something sticks. Get help dude. Seriously.
          Look at the number of thanks that THE received from posting this comment. And I doubt that all of them have personnel issues with CQ or are all red fans. I know I am not. So before jumping to the conclusion by giving your emotional, and weak statement, consider the fact that just because people may have different opinions than yours doesn't mean that you are right and that you know everything and we don't.

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            #65
            Originally posted by KeonKish View Post
            I think that our effectiveness and fluidity improved with each game.

            In the Portugal game we were much more effective with our counters and we kept the ball with more poise.

            Ultimately I think a lot of it comes from nerves and no experience playing at such a level.

            Some players were much better than others tho.

            Azmoun was good overall, but his persistence on trying to run at defenders and then loose the ball himself, instead of passing the ball back to Ghoddos or somebody else was annoying.

            Our guys simply didn’t have it in them to beat solid defenders 1v1




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            Our fluidity did not improve in the last game against Portugal. In fact, after Beiro's penalty save, we naturally though that we would take control of the game by creating enough chances to score. But that never happened. And our goal came after a lucky penalty that the referee gifted us in the dying minutes. And before that goal, Portugal was in control of the game, and we were just chasing them.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Irandoust View Post
              Our fluidity did not improve in the last game against Portugal. In fact, after Beiro's penalty save, we naturally though that we would take control of the game by creating enough chances to score. But that never happened. And our goal came after a lucky penalty that the referee gifted us in the dying minutes. And before that goal, Portugal was in control of the game, and we were just chasing them.
              I think you watched a different game


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                #67
                Originally posted by KeonKish View Post
                I think you watched a different game
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                Since you watched the right game, what don't you explain what exactly happened.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by beri486 View Post
                  Iran played it's own unique interpretation of the game and they
                  were good at it. Nobody can claim otherwise based on the performances
                  we saw and based on the results.

                  Tactically Iran has no problems and can play their style for years to come and
                  dominate Asia and be pretty good in World Cups.

                  What Iran is missing to go the last mile is technical issues with the players.
                  That is were we fail compared to other teams, even teams that played worse than
                  us and got less points than Iran.

                  The clear evidence of this failure is on the FIFA statistics page which shows Iran last
                  in the number of attempts at goal with only 21. But what is worse is that only 4 of
                  these were on target, 15 were off target an 2 blocked.


                  That means our players need to work on their technical abilities like how to shoot
                  with the right part of their foot based on their positioning and to shift their weight
                  while shooting to achieve maximum accuracy. That is Iran's biggest weakness at the
                  moment.

                  CQ has achieved his tactical indoctrination of the team. It is now time for him to work
                  and improve Iranian players technically. That's currently the missing ingredient to make
                  Iran a top 10 team in the world. Hopefully has has the patience to achieve this goal too.
                  The reason why Iran has technical issues to go the last mile is because instead of playing the ball, the players chase the ball all the time and when they actually get a chance to take advantage of the opportunity that it has been created, they usually miss it nervously.
                  Azmoun's miss against Morocco in the first half, and Vahid Amiri's miss shot which was yards away from the goal against Portugal in the first half after a rare attacking buildup had been created are perfect examples of how difficult it is to create scoring chances and taking advantage of them while defending deep in your own half.

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                    #69
                    what kind of a shit username is "The"? Literally couldn't pick a more confusing/annoying one.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Irandoust View Post
                      Look at the number of thanks that THE received from posting this comment.
                      I would tell you that your argument is a logical fallacy known as Appeal to Numbers, but we both know that would go over your head. There are thousands and thousands of retards on Iranian social media attacking team melli and bashing CQ every day. Just because there are lots of them doesn't mean those vatan foroosh morons are right.

                      So before jumping to the conclusion by giving your emotional, and weak statement, consider the fact that just because people may have different opinions than yours doesn't mean that you are right and that you know everything and we don't.
                      You of all people playing the "emotional and weak statement" card is laughable. You're a Branko fanboy. That much is clear from your own posts and arguments in defense of that 3rd rate clown the past few days. Do not pretend for a second that your problem with CQ has to do with anything else. People who like Branko's coaching but criticize CQ are like people who drive a used FIAT but don't like BMWs. You put your club above your country, that's YOUR choice. But don't expect the rest of us to not call you out on it.

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by beri486 View Post
                        That means our players need to work on their technical abilities like how to shoot
                        with the right part of their foot based on their positioning and to shift their weight
                        while shooting to achieve maximum accuracy. That is Iran's biggest weakness at the
                        moment.
                        This is true, but sadly it's not something that the senior national team coach can do much about. Cruyff once said there are certain skills in football that you have to learn before the age of 12, otherwise the wrong technique becomes second nature to you and will be hard to correct later. Thanks to our pathetic system most of our professional players have very little professional coaching before their teens, and even then it's usually an unqualified person who never notices those basic flaws and doesn't correct them. Esteghlal's coach Schaffer actually had to hold drilling sessions when he first took over to teach some of our most famous players the right technique for passing the ball! By the time the guys make the senior national team there isn't all that much that can be done.

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                          #72
                          Is it just me or others feel that we improved game-by-game? Possisioons or little possession, Shots on goals or deflections, the fact remains that we created clear-cut opportunities and above all this is the best result achieved in any World Cup.

                          I believe that to expect a team to entertain you and generate high stats, you would expect them to have had the experience of friendlies against top oppositions in line with the profile of the former World Champions and the current European Champions! Well I guess we didn’t have that luxury so while I respect others opinion, in my humble view we should be grateful and be honoured by what these boys gave us.
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                            #73
                            Originally posted by krol View Post
                            I would tell you that your argument is a logical fallacy known as Appeal to Numbers, but we both know that would go over your head. There are thousands and thousands of retards on Iranian social media attacking team melli and bashing CQ every day. Just because there are lots of them doesn't mean those vatan foroosh morons are right.

                            You of all people playing the "emotional and weak statement" card is laughable. You're a Branko fanboy. That much is clear from your own posts and arguments in defense of that 3rd rate clown the past few days. Do not pretend for a second that your problem with CQ has to do with anything else. People who like Branko's coaching but criticize CQ are like people who drive a used FIAT but don't like BMWs. You put your club above your country, that's YOUR choice. But don't expect the rest of us to not call you out on it.
                            I am not a Branko boy, I just think that his second spell in Iran has been constructive.
                            There is nothing wrong to see Iran's national team to play an attacking football. We have plenty of technically gifted players to form an attacking system around them.
                            By the way, I was among the ones who said thank you to THE for his good comment. And so be careful of the words that you choose to describe us, okay. Thank you

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                              #74
                              Originally posted by Irandoust View Post
                              I am not a Branko boy, I just think that his second spell in Iran has been constructive.
                              There is nothing special or constructive about Branko's second spell in Iran. Afshin Ghotbi and Ali Parvin have won the league with Perspolis just like he did. Other than that, he has crashed out of the Hazfi Cup twice, (one of them against "Qashaqei") and has embarrassed himself and Iranian football in the Asian Champions League after crashing out 6-2 over two legs against Al-Hilal. He regularly gets outcoached by foreign managers and couldn't even beat Mansourian at Naft or Esteghlal.

                              There is nothing wrong to see Iran's national team to play an attacking football. We have plenty of technically gifted players to form an attacking system around them.
                              Iran playing against Spain and Portugal is like Perspolis paying against Real Madrid. Have that jealous loser coach Perspolis in a match like that, and we'll see how "attacking" his tactics will be! It's easy to play "attacking" football when you have better players than 90% of the teams in the league and most away matches are like home games for your club! Outside of Iran, we've already seen his "attacking" flair when after getting spanked 4-0 by Al-Hilal in the first leg, instead of trying to come back or even win in the second leg he chose an ultra-defensive formation, as if he was begging them to take mercy on him and only score a couple this time. Please don't talk to me about good coaching and attacking football when your idea of a good coach is Branko!

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                                #75
                                Originally posted by krol View Post
                                There is nothing special or constructive about Branko's second spell in Iran. Afshin Ghotbi and Ali Parvin have won the league with Perspolis just like he did. Other than that, he has crashed out of the Hazfi Cup twice, (one of them against "Qashaqei") and has embarrassed himself and Iranian football in the Asian Champions League after crashing out 6-2 over two legs against Al-Hilal. He regularly gets outcoached by foreign managers and couldn't even beat Mansourian at Naft or Esteghlal.

                                Iran playing against Spain and Portugal is like Perspolis paying against Real Madrid. Have that jealous loser coach Perspolis in a match like that, and we'll see how "attacking" his tactics will be! It's easy to play "attacking" football when you have better players than 90% of the teams in the league and most away matches are like home games for your club! Outside of Iran, we've already seen his "attacking" flair when after getting spanked 4-0 by Al-Hilal in the first leg, instead of trying to come back or even win in the second leg he chose an ultra-defensive formation, as if he was begging them to take mercy on him and only score a couple this time. Please don't talk to me about good coaching and attacking football when your idea of a good coach is Branko!
                                Because Branko took Perspolis out of the bottom of the table in his first season and then won the IPL title twice in a row and then guided Perspolis in the last eight of the champions league,he deserves credit. I never said he was better than CQ.
                                On the issue of attacking football, I think those of us who prefer to see that type of a football, would like to see a world class coach who is in the same caliber as CQ but offensive minded to be hired. If available, Jose Pekerman, or the Dutch head coach of Australia can be good candidates.
                                If Iranian players are physically fit to chase the ball for much of the 90 minutes, which is a very difficult thing to do, then, they can be equally fit to take the game to the opponent by moving the ball among themselves for much of the game. A great example of that would be Peru or Croatia of this world cup, and Bosnia of 2014.

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