Did Iran give too much credit to Spain and Portugal?

[Iran_19]

No, Russia and Uruguay did exactly what we did. Just that Russia was playing at home and more lucky with VAR than us, therefore getting a 1-1 instead of a narrow loss like us. And Uruguay have world class strikers which we don't have, hence they could beat Portugal narrowly instead of drawing them, like we did.

People can say luck wasn't in our side, but tbh, we got lucky with an own goal vs Morocco, and the penalty that we scored(just like Portugal one), was questionable decision. So yes we got unlucky on Taremi chance and few other occasion but at the same time, we were lucky also.

[AllStarMomo]

We gave bit too much respect to Spain, and played too deep, if any team to me they seemed more susceptible defensively than both Portugal and morocco..!! but also they didnt seem like the sorta of a team to really loose to us..!! but i think we had a chance of tying them too..!
its been discussed way too much before, but fact remains @ WC we were simply Horrid in time of possession and way too subpar in connecting some passes together in order to afford us a bit of rest from a seemingly constant attacking onslaught ..!
We simply must improve, at least slightly on those fronts to have any realistic chance beating a high quality side in a tight match..! otherwise our attacking players are forced with exerting so much energy and stamina on defensive fronts that by the time some decent scoring chances fall at their feet late in the game they simply will be too exhausted to put quality finishing touches on them..!
much of our respectable wc showing this time around, honestly it came down to mostly our players giving it every ounce of energy and effort they had on the pitch..!

to me, watching from the stands, the real issue with our glaring passing deficiencies was mostly LACK OF MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE BALL and our players providing real passing option for whoever was the ball carrier...!! The reason we kept just hoofing it upfield or aimlessly forward on the few occasions we would win the ball back was because there simply wasnt anyone they could pass it to..!!
besides perhaps Ebrahimi, very few of our players had the knack for moving into right spaces for receiving the pass or giving the ball carrier a clear passing lane to get them the ball..!! they just give the ball up to the guy then run behind a bunch of defenders and expect to get some miraculous accurate pass sent to them that eludes all the defensive marks that stood in the way..!!?? just flat stupid ..... really..!

Carlos needs to straighten out that aspect of his TM's play, thats for sure...!! perhaps the improvement needs not be that drastic but we must improve nontheless if we have any sort of a legitimate AC championship desires ..!!

One of the best posts i have read after the WC out of Iran!
Thanks!

Problem is that people start to attack after writing some critics. They think we are unhappy with everything. They forget that critics are the only way to progress! Take a look at germany. They were so happy and tought to win the wc and didnt see any critics!

[Keyan]

Would like to have a statistic with created goal chances of every Team in our group! Would be interesting.

I understand Momo, but stats don't show the game we play. Statistically we will look 'plain'.

How did we out play Marocco, Spain and Portugal when they had more
posession and more scoring chances?
How we out play european top teams when we couldnt score
from an open game ?(KSA, Japan, Korea and Australia did)

Did you watch the Saudi Arabia and Russia game? Russia won 5 - 0. Russia only had 36% possession. - But let's not even look at stats. If we finished 50% of our chances, we would have topped our group, the group of death. Finishing was our only issue. I believe this was our best "Performance" in a WC. We also outplayed Argentina at the last world cup, but we got a loss on the stat line. We could argue statistics, but they truly don't show the game. This is a style of football that has been played for decades by world teams, this isn't something just new with us.

[Soroush-IK]

Not Spain and Portugal, but Iran really deserved to play against Russia today

Iran's goal against Spain was not even offside it was clear goal of 1:1.

They were partial and wanted to keep Spain and Portugal at the expense of Iran and Morocco

Iran has played so well this was the best World Cup ever

Yes. Ezzi is clearly on side, Azmoun never touched the ball, it went straight to Ezzi. [emoji817]% robbed again. I'm getting sick and tired of these four year waiting circles only to be robbed time and again.

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Watch from 01:00. [emoji817]% legit goal.

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[Philosophy_King]

I understand Momo, but stats don't show the game we play. Statistically we will look 'plain'.







Did you watch the Saudi Arabia and Russia game? Russia won 5 - 0. Russia only had 36% possession. - But let's not even look at stats. If we finished 50% of our chances, we would have topped our group, the group of death. Finishing was our only issue. I believe this was our best "Performance" in a WC. We also outplayed Argentina at the last world cup, but we got a loss on the stat line. We could argue statistics, but they truly don't show the game. This is a style of football that has been played for decades by world teams, this isn't something just new with us.

Well on paper we had group of death but now all members of the
group of death are death indeed.

You picked out the possession argument what about the stats
that proove that we were very weak in creating chances?
I am wondering if Vietnam have 30% possession against us and
defeat us with an lucky goal would keep argueing the same way?

[shahname]

Having watched both these teams in the round of 16, I feel that we magnified them to an extent that made them unbeatable in our minds.

It just reminded me the words of FIFA president to mahdavikia after the Spain match: you have a good team and played so well after you went down. Why did not you play like this all the time?

I totally understand that we couldn’t let our guards off against the favourites of our group, but with a bit more self belief and confidence we could have gone a lot farther in this competition

I hope this will become a lesson for our futures adventures.

To make it short. The answer is YES.

We and CQ didn't really believe we could do it!!! We should have played with more courage and taken our chances. CQ never took a DM out and put an extra attacker or a CAM in any of the matches.

[ben.walken]

To make it short. The answer is YES.

We and CQ didn't really believe we could do it!!! We should have played with more courage and taken our chances. CQ never took a DM out and put an extra attacker or a CAM in any of the matches.

Not true. Portugal game 70th min substitution, Karim Ansarifard replaces Saeid Ezatolahi.

[Mr Pouya]

Against Spain yes. People arguing Russia and Uruguay played the same way are incorrect for the Spain game. All we did was defend with every player against them with no passing just bekesksh ziresh. Ramos was playing as a attacking player for them ffs. We only came to life after they scored which was too late. The tactics against Portugal were
A different story. Russia and Uruguay didn’t play that cowardly like us in the first half.

[metallica69]

It’s very difficult to judge, we the right coach Spain would have been the tournament faivorates.

I honestly feel we could have done more, for me not having hajsafei in the middle, not using attacking players like Saman and Gucci (subbing earlier) not using Mohammadi, showed that we were looking for draws against Spain and Portugal.

While when you look at Japan and Korea they didn’t seem like they were after draws, the first half against Spain was horrible in my opinion, at one point I thought Pravin was the coach.

In all cases, both games last night showed that we deserved to advance

[mahestan]

Both against Spain and Portugal when we fell behind we started playing extremely well. Created chances and manged to press and force turnovers. I don’t understand why we couldn’t play with the same vigor from the start.

[eerooni]

This was Iran World Cup. But FIFA had other ideas. CR7

[sarbaz]

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Bachelat
Very good post , much respect ✊
So to you all who say , hey look ,Iran’s group was not that though.
So just look at the teams who are dead already
Germany, Argentina the 2 finalists of the last WC
Poland , Spain , Portugal, Poland , Serbia, etc etc
This is the most unorthodox WC ever

[val]

Did Iran give too much credit to Spain and Portugal?

You guys already turning against our biggest achievement

Get a grip on reality

We went to the cup with out real preparation

We were under sanctions and global humiliation

Our players aside from those that play outside they come from an amateur league with amateur coaches and amateur trainings

The nation doubted them,

the coaches and analysts doubted them and did everything they can to stop the team from getting results

Most of our players 10 years ago were living under poverty with harsh and extreme conditions, and they were not in real madrid, barcelona lisbon training camps

We didnt have any real test and strong friendlies

Our team had no experience playing against big teams
For gods sake even kosovo cancelled on us, its not even a country yet!!
Its like wanting to date the ugliest girl in the world and she texts you an hour before telling you , you are not my type!

DONT COMPARE IRAN TO ANY OTHER TEAM AT THE WORLD CUP, because it would be unfair to the hard work and great results our boys achieved for our nation

Both Russia and Uruguay were solid teams,

Dont forget russia was playing at home hosting the world cup!!, last time we hosted an event that the teams actually showed up it was a 4 team event called LG cup during khatami era 15 years ago

We managed to bring bosnia greece macedonia to Iran go figure the rest!

[Taz]

Russia succeed by being even more negative and serving up the sort of football that makes us look like Brazil 1970 and that leads people to think we should have attacked them more? Cool bros.

[Ando Teymourian]

Russia and Uruguay played Spain and Portugal exactly how Iran did.

If anything, Iran played better against Spain than Russia did. Spain scored first in both games (both lucky goals btw) - Russia managed to snag a penalty and then hung on until they could reach the penalty phase. Throw in home field advantage and I didn't see anything too special from Russia.

In the Portugal game, Uruguay even played more like Iran - difference is they had world class attack from Suarez and Cavani who could take advantage of their opportunities.


This is one of the problems with modern day football - any person can come and diminish a team's performance by writing a baseless opinion on what he perceived. Others who didn't watch the game and like what they hear will jump on board, and suddenly an incorrect analysis starts gaining traction.

That is what is happening now - and the fact that people are trying to bring down TM's performance with these arguments kind of stings to be honest.