Human Afazeli now destroys CQ

[Adesor Vafaseya]

TO ALL!
TWO WARNINGS ALREADY ISSUED!

KEEP IT CLEAN AND DO NOT USE PROFANITY AND INAPPROPRIATE LANGUAGE IN OUR FORUMS!

[euphory]

Since you are so concerned to know about how I feel about the Iranian football in general, what don't you first learn how to ask like a respectable person and not like a low class individual like you have been so far.

haha low class.. people who rate clubs above national team and are low class.. the reason i dont care about anything you say is because you have shown no interest in the success of the national team in any case to make me believe you actually want the best for Iranian football. if caring for iranian football and national football is being classified as a low class then so be it.

[rightoussoul]

Just looking at this thread makes me realise how divided we are as a nation. We keep on talking about democracy, freedom and etc... but as soon as someone says something we don't agree with then we start with the childish insults. I have been visiting this site since 1998 (under previous name) and unfortunately it seems like there are a lot of immature posters these days.

In regards to CQ and his overall performance. I agree that after 8 years as head coach CQ hasn't done enough to warrant a 4 year renewal (specially with a raise!). However he should be given 6 months to win the AC if he doesn't, then his reign as HQ would be qualified as one that achieved nothing in particular.

Before people start saying he qualified us for consecutive WCs, well he was the only coach in Iran's history that had such a long stay to be able to achieve this, correct me if i am wrong, but i dont remember any coach that stayed for 8 years. My opinion on WC qualification is that Iran as one of the major soccer nations of Asia HAS to qualify for the WC. The times they didn't was a total failure on behalf of the federation, players and coaches.

For me Iran making the WC is not an accomplishment! CQ did well to qualify us for two consecutive WC but that doesn't mean his tenure has been a success.
He failed to win or even advance to the semi's of the Asian cup which is a failure, what made it worst is the fact that his deep defensive strategy meant that we were outplayed by Qatar and UAE. I personally find it sad that Iran is outplayed by Qatar and UAE.

CQ has had 8 years with the team this is almost a whole generation of footballers? this is enough time to instill a more fluid and passing game into our soccer culture which he did not do.

Before anyone starts blaming, facilities or lack of friendlies... tell me this do we have better facilities and friendlies then Peru? Costa Rica? Morroco? Tunisia? Nigeria? Senegal? its easy to compare Iran to England and say we don't have facilities, but the reality is that our facilities are and were better then alot of other nations in the World cup who played more offensive and were able to put three passes together. I will not mention the fact that CQ himself has turned down numerous friendlies against stronger nations.

Yes we did finish on four points, but in reality this was only due to a very very lucky win against Morocco, which people seem to forget. I keep on hearing how great CQ did and how we almost qualified for the second round if it wasn't for Taremi's miss... but no one mentions that our victory over Morrocco involved a large amount of luck, without which we would have finished on 2 points. Other then the Azmoun one on one in the Morocco game, iran didn't manage to create a single goal scoring opportunity from open play (broken plays not included).

CQ contrary to what his fanboys like to say has never been a successful senior level manager. He utterly failed as a manager in Real Madrid (his negative approach being the main reason), he failed as Portugal coach and was fired as South Africa's coach before they even played at the world cup. He is however by all accounts a great assistant coach.

[Philosophy_King]

Some aspects that Afezeli are adressing to are cases
that one can think about.
F.e. there can be no doubt that despite our great defense we were the
weakest Team in terms of our attacking game.
He is also right when he argues that Spain was not at their best
due to the sacking of their coach so closely to the WC + that
the elimination of Portugal shows that our group was not that
dominant in general.

BUT the way he tries to deny CQ achievements is just
very poor. The reason why we were not able to play attacking
football is for sure not CQ-Style in general. Just have a look
how Portugal played Spain in WC 2010. They were arguebly
the better Team against Spain (the worldchampions of that WC).
The reason why we couldnt peform better attacking football is
1) financial issues, 2) no proper friendly games, 3) IPL and
Iran low level in terms of tactical education and know how in
general, 4) the mental aspect of our players who were under
unfamiliar pressure without experiencing a game against top players
which results in a inferiority complex and fear towards the "giants" in our goup,
5) Injuries special injruy of Dejagah who would def. helped our attacking game with his dribbling
skills and physical strength.
None of this reason had anything todo with CQ coaching abilities.
Therefore people are right when they feel that Afazeli is not objective
and just argues in his own intrests. Fact is that CQ is the best coach we
ever had and if we want to win the AFC we should def. keep him.
Afazeli forgets that it was CQ who were arguebly the first coach in our
history who had the balls to drop experienced players for young players.
CQ main strenght is his organization and the way how he analysis our
potential to maximize the outcome/results, smth. that branko were
not capable to do.

All in all CQ and our players gave their best and achieved the best result in our
WC-History.

If we want a TM with more attractive football, we should try to improve the apsects
that i mentioned above. Our coach is great + most importantly our players stay
100% behind him which was not always the case in TM-History.

[OFFSIDE_1]

What has Afazeli achieved in his life to comment on the National team?

Serious question, has he even played professional football?

I am sure he is somehow connected to the IR establishment to be offered coaching positions without any experience.

Such a sad era were are living in.

well, he has listed his accomplishments/resume in the link below:

http://www.humanafazeli.com/resume.aspx


Not sure how much of it is true. He certainly is a self-promoter. One thing you notice is that in his resume he makes no mention of his time with the U-23 team both in 2010 and 2014. It looks like he stopped updating his resume by 2010, but then when you look at the rest of his homepage, it is continuously being updated.

[DR Strangemoosh]

well, he has listed his accomplishments/resume in the link below:

http://www.humanafazeli.com/resume.aspx


Not sure how much of it is true. He certainly is a self-promoter. One thing you notice is that in his resume he makes no mention of his time with the U-23 team both in 2010 and 2014. It looks like he stopped updating his resume by 2010, but then when you look at the rest of his homepage, it is continuously being updated.

I do like his spelling of Osasuna though!

"Ossassuna"

[OFFSIDE_1]

I do like his spelling of Osasuna though!

"Ossassuna"

and the slide deck presentation was certainly very enlightening :-)

[arash123]

Just looking at this thread makes me realise how divided we are as a nation. We keep on talking about democracy, freedom and etc... but as soon as someone says something we don't agree with then we start with the childish insults. I have been visiting this site since 1998 (under previous name) and unfortunately it seems like there are a lot of immature posters these days.

In regards to CQ and his overall performance. I agree that after 8 years as head coach CQ hasn't done enough to warrant a 4 year renewal (specially with a raise!). However he should be given 6 months to win the AC if he doesn't, then his reign as HQ would be qualified as one that achieved nothing in particular.

Before people start saying he qualified us for consecutive WCs, well he was the only coach in Iran's history that had such a long stay to be able to achieve this, correct me if i am wrong, but i dont remember any coach that stayed for 8 years. My opinion on WC qualification is that Iran as one of the major soccer nations of Asia HAS to qualify for the WC. The times they didn't was a total failure on behalf of the federation, players and coaches.

For me Iran making the WC is not an accomplishment! CQ did well to qualify us for two consecutive WC but that doesn't mean his tenure has been a success.
He failed to win or even advance to the semi's of the Asian cup which is a failure, what made it worst is the fact that his deep defensive strategy meant that we were outplayed by Qatar and UAE. I personally find it sad that Iran is outplayed by Qatar and UAE.

CQ has had 8 years with the team this is almost a whole generation of footballers? this is enough time to instill a more fluid and passing game into our soccer culture which he did not do.

Before anyone starts blaming, facilities or lack of friendlies... tell me this do we have better facilities and friendlies then Peru? Costa Rica? Morroco? Tunisia? Nigeria? Senegal? its easy to compare Iran to England and say we don't have facilities, but the reality is that our facilities are and were better then alot of other nations in the World cup who played more offensive and were able to put three passes together. I will not mention the fact that CQ himself has turned down numerous friendlies against stronger nations.

Yes we did finish on four points, but in reality this was only due to a very very lucky win against Morocco, which people seem to forget. I keep on hearing how great CQ did and how we almost qualified for the second round if it wasn't for Taremi's miss... but no one mentions that our victory over Morrocco involved a large amount of luck, without which we would have finished on 2 points. Other then the Azmoun one on one in the Morocco game, iran didn't manage to create a single goal scoring opportunity from open play (broken plays not included).

CQ contrary to what his fanboys like to say has never been a successful senior level manager. He utterly failed as a manager in Real Madrid (his negative approach being the main reason), he failed as Portugal coach and was fired as South Africa's coach before they even played at the world cup. He is however by all accounts a great assistant coach.

And who should replace him? Daei? GN? Mayeli Kohan? AFAZELI?

CQ is by no means perfect, but he definitely deserves 4 more years. Especially with the lack of other options Iran has. (who wants to work with IFF?)

[rightoussoul]

And who should replace him? Daei? GN? Mayeli Kohan? AFAZELI?

CQ is by no means perfect, but he definitely deserves 4 more years. Especially with the lack of other options Iran has. (who wants to work with IFF?)

There are a lot of young experienced international coaches who cost considerably less then CQ. The Moroccan coach for example has shown to be a great offensive minded coach and would cost little money.

A coach doesn't have to be a big name coach to be good. Even the big ones were at some point in their careers unknown.

The fact that we still don't have high caliber Iranian coaches is also another testament to CQ not being as good as his fanboys like to claim in 8 years he could have passed his knowledge to plenty of Iranian coaches but hasn't since he usually works with foreign coaches and doesn't get along with Iranian coaches. Not that blame lies with him only, obviously the federation and Iranian clubs are also to blame for this.

[pdot]

There are a lot of young experienced international coaches who cost considerably less then CQ. The Moroccan coach for example has shown to be a great offensive minded coach and would cost little money.
A coach doesn't have to be a big name coach to be good. Even the big ones were at some point in their careers unknown.
The fact that we still don't have high caliber Iranian coaches is also another testament to CQ not being as good as his fanboys like to claim in 8 years he could have passed his knowledge to plenty of Iranian coaches but hasn't since he usually works with foreign coaches and doesn't get along with Iranian coaches. Not that blame lies with him only, obviously the federation and Iranian clubs are also to blame for this.

Herve Renard gets paid $83,000 a month - Almost $1,000,000 a year and Branko gets paid $670,000 a year. How is this little money?

CQ gets paid $2,000,000.

[Ari]

There are a lot of young experienced international coaches who cost considerably less then CQ. The Moroccan coach for example has shown to be a great offensive minded coach and would cost little money.

1. Renard already stated that he wants a pay raise from the 1 Million he already gets paid, after less than 2 years. How much did CQ get in his first years?

2. As much as i love Iran, but are we really going to compare Moroccos lifestyle with irans? Plus nearly every moroccan speaks french.

3. As a lot of times mentioned by CQ himself and some members of IFF, like Kaffashian and Taj, CQ had to pay some costs of TM and the coaching staff.

[KasraKhan]

Just looking at this thread makes me realise how divided we are as a nation. We keep on talking about democracy, freedom and etc... but as soon as someone says something we don't agree with then we start with the childish insults

Interesting point! I assume your posts won't contain any such insults...

CQ contrary to what his fanboys like to say has never been a successful senior level manager. He utterly failed as a manager in Real Madrid (his negative approach being the main reason), he failed as Portugal coach and was fired as South Africa's coach before they even played at the world cup. He is however by all accounts a great assistant coach.

The fact that we still don't have high caliber Iranian coaches is also another testament to CQ not being as good as his fanboys like to claim in 8 years he could have passed his knowledge to plenty of Iranian coaches but hasn't since he usually works with foreign coaches and doesn't get along with Iranian coaches.

Oh wait, never mind.

[rightoussoul]

Interesting point! I assume your posts won't contain any such insults...



Oh wait, never mind.

Fanboy is not an insult, it simply means someone who is excessive in their support of something or someone. At least that's what it is supposed to mean.

[rightoussoul]

Herve Renard gets paid $83,000 a month - Almost $1,000,000 a year and Branko gets paid $670,000 a year. How is this little money?

CQ gets paid $2,000,000.

That's a matter of perspective 50% less or a million less is considerably less money. I should have said less money not little money, appologies.

[Babak agha]

Definition of fanboy:

An extreme fan or follower of a particular medium or concept, whether it be sports, television, film directors, video games (the most common usage), etc.
Known for a complete lack of objectivity in relation to their preferred focus. Usually argue with circular logic that they refuse to acknowledge. Arguments or debates with such are usually futile. Every flaw is spun into semi-virtues and everything else, blown to comedic, complimentary proportions.

Can anybody deny this forum has/had Branco fanboys?
Can anyone deny this forum has CQ fanboys (above definition)?

Only true fanboys can deny this