Where do you rank PGL in Asia?

[forzatm]

Are you guys still watching the ACL? It's just a farce. Saudi Arabia doesn't seem to care about it anymore. Now their teams are allowed to field 8 foreigners in the Saudi league lol. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018%E...oreign_players And J-League teams always field second string teams in the ACL.

[teammelli91]

3rd..

Not everything is infrastructure and organization, which we lack.

There’s also talent and passion for the sport. It’s true that we don’t have the facilities, we don’t have the proper equipment, Hell we don’t even make sure our PGL players wear proper jerseys sometimes.

But one thing we do have is a greater passion and talent than a majority of teams in Asia. And yes I know talent won’t get you far if you don’t have everything. But just because you invest millions into the sport doesn’t necessarily mean you’re gonna help produce better domestic (notice how I say domestic, not $ billion bought and nationalized South American or African) players.

One must also have the will, the drive, and the passion which Iranian players do have. But we are behind because our football is poor and disorganized mess with no real focus on the youth.

[teammelli91]

Japan and South Korea are 1 & 2.

[O-ZoNe]

but that is no indicator of the overall level of play in an entire league...

In qatari league games where teams lose by 10 goals are becoming almost commonplace. PGPL is much more competitive than that.

This happens in other leagues too...Bayern dominates Bundesliga, the big 2 in Spain. The fact that IPL has so many draws is not a good sign. When was the last time Xavi signed for a PGL team? PGL has a difficult time recruiting decent foreign talent and the ones that make it big in the league like Mame Thiam leave to other Asian leagues!

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[Rooyintan]

Quality: 1. China 2. Japan 3. Korea 4. Qatar 5. Iran
Saudi Arabia, UAE have lots of money but overall quality not as good as our league with the exception of some of their big clubs.
Uzbekistan and Australia are both below Iran in terms of money as well as quality.

[Tehranto]

but that is no indicator of the overall level of play in an entire league...

In qatari league games where teams lose by 10 goals are becoming almost commonplace. PGPL is much more competitive than that.

That does not mean that the league is weaker because it's more competitive or there is a gap from the top to the bottom. What we saw yesterday and what we will see today shows there is a big gap between teams like Al Saad and Al Duhail from our top teams, like Esteghlal, Persepolis etc.

Also, it can mean that PGL players do not know how to finish ... lol

[Surenas]

It depends, but currently I see the Japanese League as the strongest followed by South Korea and China. I think Iran has the 4th strongest League overall, the other countries like UAE and Qatar have just 1 or 2 star teams, they don't say much about the strengh of a League. In Iran it is actually possible that a weaker team wins the League, because overall there is not such a huge gap between the teams. For everyone who says Qatar or UAE is ahead because of yesterday, this bs, it's like saying the Bundesliga is better than the Premier League, because of Bayern Munich, but obviously Schalke, Dortmund and Leverkusen are not better than Chelsea, the Spurs, United or Liverpool. From the domestic force I would say Iran is the second best League after Japan, but just because Japan has good system of using their talents.

[forzatm]

Quality: 1. China 2. Japan 3. Korea 4. Qatar 5. Iran
Saudi Arabia, UAE have lots of money but overall quality not as good as our league with the exception of some of their big clubs.
Uzbekistan and Australia are both below Iran in terms of money as well as quality.

The Chinese Super League is only slightly better than Persian Gulf leagues. Their teams are allowed to play only 3 foreigners in the league and Chinese players are as bad as Qatari players.

[Ghermez Agha]

3rd..

Not everything is infrastructure and organization, which we lack.

There’s also talent and passion for the sport. It’s true that we don’t have the facilities, we don’t have the proper equipment, Hell we don’t even make sure our PGL players wear proper jerseys sometimes.

But one thing we do have is a greater passion and talent than a majority of teams in Asia. And yes I know talent won’t get you far if you don’t have everything. But just because you invest millions into the sport doesn’t necessarily mean you’re gonna help produce better domestic (notice how I say domestic, not $ billion bought and nationalized South American or African) players.

One must also have the will, the drive, and the passion which Iranian players do have. But we are behind because our football is poor and disorganized mess with no real focus on the youth.

having passion for the sport doesn't make the league any better though. it does create better environments for players and whatnot but it doesn't raise the standard unfortunately. results speak for themselves and the fact is we haven't had a team win the ACL in what 30 something years? if the league was top 3 we would at some point have had teams winning Asia in recent years but that hasn't been the case. please flip the script for a second and take a league in Europe who hasn't had a winner of the CL in that long and see where they are in the conversation in best leagues in Europe.

[CHaMiLLionaire]

We'd be lucky to break top 5... We are on par with the UAE, if not a little bit higher... but clubs from Korea, Qatar, China, Japan, Saudi Arabia have beaten us head to head over the last number of years.

1) Korea
2) Qatar
3) China
4)Japan
5) Saudi Arabia
6) Iran
7) UAE

[TM4LIFE]

Our league produces lots of talent that is (unfortunately) often overlooked, but which shows itself when given the opportunity. Plenty of legionaries coming out of it to show this, TM performances as well.

However, the quality of a league is dependent on the quality of the clubs, and these involve many different layers including coaches, transfers, owners, infrastructure (training and stadiums), wages, etc.

In this regard, we are very very poor. PGL clubs are perhaps one of the most corrupt on the continent. They rarely employ anything even remotely resembling modern football. They have hardly any youth programs worth looking at. They regularly import total flops from outside Iran. Many of their stadiums look like half-finished money laundering fronts. You all know the rest

So, when we rank our league, the only things that honestly even place us anywhere close to the competition is the sheer number of supporters and the home grown talent scattered around between some of our clubs. In every other respect, we are in the gutter. When was the last time we even sent a team to the final of the ACL to even compete with an East Asian team?

Since 2002, we’ve only sent Sepahan and Zob Ahan to the final, both runners up and the latest was 8 years ago. In that time frame, Korea, Japan, Saudi, UAE, Australia, China, and Qatar have ALL produced at least one winner.

[shahramii]

League quality
1. Japan
2. Korea
3. Qatar
4. China
5. Saudi
6. Iran
7. UAE
8. Australia

most talents
1. Iran
2. Japan
3. Korea
4. Australia
5. Saudi
6. China
7. Qatar
8. Uae

Audience
1. Iran
2. Japan
3. Korea
4. China
5. Saudi
6. Australia
7. Qatar
8. Uae

[PSGman#19]

IPL won't become one of the best league of the world even with the German economy& mentality combined with the brazilian talents. The heart of european football is in Europe and it won't change. Asia and Iran are so behind that it is not worth trying to become something we can't. foreign quality players and coaches won't come easily to Iran.

Knowing that and knowing iranian and asian competitions are useless (honestly who cares what is IPL rank in Asia), Iran league should develop into a development league that's try to hire what it can as a foreign quality coaches, try to enhance infrastructure and organisation. The goal of the league should be to promote and develop young players with the addition of oldies like Dejagah, Shojaei and export them to Europe (for the best ones) or Qatar (for the average ones).

[GoIran]

Our league is really inferior to other Asian leagues in terms of foreign imports. While we treat Stokes and Forrester like big names, other Asian leagues buy real big names like Renato Augusto, Paulinho, Mascherano, Iniesta, Torres, Podolski, Xavi, Sneijder etc. I would say overall quality wise J-League is the best. The gap between the top and bottom teams in the league looks smaller than other Asian leagues and they export many Japanese players to the top European leagues.

[Tehranto]

In short, Iran with local talent and their fans, are one of the better ones.

In everything else, infrastructure, stadiums, quality of foreign players, coaches, management, low corruption etc. are at the bottom of the barrel spectrum (to all teams playing in Asian Champions League)

Sports is not just talent and passion of fans, the other stuff matters a lot too.