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Originally posted by beri486 View PostI don't think Azmoun being Sunni has anything to do with his situation.
We had Ando as our Captain and he was Christian, so that's not an issue.
Also Vooriya is Kurdish, Dr. Z is Kurdish and they are all Sunni. In fact, Dr. Z
is a fierce critic of CQ. Azmoun is just a kid and needs to grow up.
As far as CQ, we have to be used to his antics by now. He will do like before.
Pick a fight with club managers and then go on a vacation, come back 2 weeks
before the camp for Asian Cup and tell how bad the situation is with his team
with lack of friendlies, clubs not cooperating, etc....and lower expectations for
the Asian Cup and most probably get eliminated again in the 1/4 finals.
And then repeat the same defective cycle if we keep him for another 4 years.
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If there are issues of racism, prejudice and discrimination in our communities inside and outside Iran, and I believe we have serious issues at a macro meso and micro levels, then it is likely that it could show its ugly head at TM level hence CQ's statement. At one point Ando was our captain so kudos to federation for staying above a lot that goes on in our society and in certain cases it is even policy. Now, at a micro level or personal level, many people here may think Sardar is just using that to justify himself, I got it. At the same time, I choose to give him the right to express what he goes through. Who am I to tell a Turkmen Sunni that there is no prejudicial or discriminatory behavior towards him if he thinks there is.
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Originally posted by AIrani View PostTo me, ethnicity, race, religion were non-issue until Brits came to Iran. They used it to divide us. However, the majority of Iranians do NOT care about ethnicity, race, or religion.
We are Iranians. The less we discuss this or similar topics the better.
The Safavid literally genocided a large portion of Iranian Sunnis, and the persecution of Afghans led to the Hotaki Uprising and sacking of Esfehan. After that we had the Qajar which treated non-Muslims as 2nd-class citizens.
Shia/Muslim chauvinism is an Iranian problem, not a western one.
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Originally posted by The View Post
The Safavid literally genocided a large portion of Iranian Sunnis, and the persecution of Afghans led to the Hotaki Uprising and sacking of Esfehan. After that we had the Qajar which treated non-Muslims as 2nd-class citizens.
Shia/Muslim chauvinism is an Iranian problem, not a western one.
Thirdly, no such thing as Shia chauvanism in Iran, just a deluded user named The who has never been to Iran and is copying Western rhetoric against Iran.
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Originally posted by sirvan View PostThe Safavids used Shi'ism as a mean to create a national bloc against the Ottomans. Without it there would be no Iran today. Secondly, there is absolutely no evidence of genocide against Iranian sunnis, so you're spewing nonsense.
Thirdly, no such thing as Shia chauvanism in Iran, just a deluded user named The who has never been to Iran and is copying Western rhetoric against Iran.
This is a football forum - but please cut the b.s. the Safavids insistence on Shia chauvinism is well documented. Read Roger Savory's Iran Under the Safavids.
No Shia chavanism in Iran? Why is there no Sunni mosque in Tehran? Why are Sunni Iranians some of the poorest in the country? Cut your IR-sponsored "dooshman" talk - the real dooshman are IR and fake Iranians who support them. Shia extremists are no different than Sunni ones. We have 40 years of evidence in Iran to show there is no difference in religious extremism - all the same dirty shit.
Related to Team Melli, IR is also the reason we can't get no got-damn good friendlies. IR's diplomatic network is so small, we should be grateful South Sudan plays us.
Team Melli is for all ... from Shites to Atheists to Armani-Iranians to Kurds etc.Last edited by Tehranto; 09-05-2018, 07:44 AM.
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Friendlies with Colombia and Argentina
Video: Carlos Queiroz is surprised after being told by a reporter, who confirms he has seen & read the letters that outline Argentina & Colombia federations' request for friendly matches with Iran. Carlos Queiroz seems very open to the friendlies & calls it a "miracle."
https://twitter.com/PersianFutbol/st...48727877513216Last edited by Tehranto; 09-05-2018, 07:46 AM.
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Originally posted by sirvan View PostThe Safavids used Shi'ism as a mean to create a national bloc against the Ottomans. Without it there would be no Iran today. Secondly, there is absolutely no evidence of genocide against Iranian sunnis, so you're spewing nonsense.
Thirdly, no such thing as Shia chauvanism in Iran, just a deluded user named The who has never been to Iran and is copying Western rhetoric against Iran.
The lie that Iran would not be without the Safavid cult is nothing but Shia propaganda. There had been different Persianate dynasties existing in the general region of Iran for centuries before. Nor did the Safavids have a monopoly in carrying and spreading Iranian Culture. The Mughals did as much if not more in preserving Persian culture.
There 100% is Shia chauvinism in Iran. It might not be on the same scale as Sunni chauvinism in Sunni countries, but it 100% is there. Homie, I grew up in Iran and actually paid attention in School and Masjids.
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Originally posted by Tehranto View PostLOL
This is a football forum - but please cut the b.s. the Safavids insistence on Shia chauvinism is well documented. Read Roger Savory's Iran Under the Safavids.
No Shia chavanism in Iran? Why is there no Sunni mosque in Tehran? Why are Sunni Iranians some of the poorest in the country? Cut your IR-sponsored "dooshman" talk - the real dooshman are IR and fake Iranians who support them. Shia extremists are no different than Sunni ones. We have 40 years of evidence in Iran to show there is no difference in religious extremism - all the same dirty shit.
Related to Team Melli, IR is also the reason we can't get no got-damn good friendlies. IR's diplomatic network is so small, we should be grateful South Sudan plays us.
Team Melli is for all ... from Shites to Atheists to Armani-Iranians to Kurds etc.
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