TM-News-Vol. 5

[DR Strangemoosh]

CQ is charlatan. Branko is known as gentlemen everywhere..

Listen to yourself please

Do not believe every bullshit media writes.

Branko is far from a gentleman. That is the media portrayal of him in Iran, but a lot of people are aware of his dodgy dealings with players who were amongst our most talented in 2006 with his club links, and various other shenanigans over the years. Your "professor" isn't the angel he works hard on his image for.


If anything, we on this site are a minority because most of us don't listen to the social media deceit and make our own minds about these things based on our position outside the Iranian media soap opera. So please, no one is going to be convinced otherwise by your "branko is known as gentlemen everywhere"

[Sarbaze-Vatan]

Yeah we shouldn't believe bullshit the media writes. We should only believe bullshit posted by "Perspolis4ever" twitter accounts.

The resentment from Ansarifard and Azmoun is not a secret. Especially Azmoun whose father responded to that charlatan and ended up being attacked for weeks by patriotic red fans!

And that's just those two. When the players are busting their asses in training camp and the moron says "they're getting fat" you think they're going to like it?...

Perspolis can keep Branko. He may be shit by world standards but he's good enough to beat giants of world football like "Padideh" in penalty kicks. Enjoy.

Branko Ivankovic at least did not lost to Japan 3-0. He even beat Japan 2-1. Mark my words he is favorite to be the next head coach of national team if IFF does not find a decent foreign coach outside Iran.

[Sarbaze-Vatan]

Listen to yourself please



Branko is far from a gentleman. That is the media portrayal of him in Iran, but a lot of people are aware of his dodgy dealings with players who were amongst our most talented in 2006 with his club links, and various other shenanigans over the years. Your "professor" isn't the angel he works hard on his image for.


If anything, we on this site are a minority because most of us don't listen to the social media deceit and make our own minds about these things based on our position outside the Iranian media soap opera. So please, no one is going to be convinced otherwise by your "branko is known as gentlemen everywhere"

What you said is totally irrelevant.

[Sarbaze-Vatan]

Haha In the following link which was in 2017, Branko Ivankovic said the national team coach should not have more than 1 month annual leave but CQ is never in Iran.

https://www.khabaronline.ir/news/765...8C%D9%82%D9%87

[DR Strangemoosh]

Branko Ivankovic at least did not lost to Japan 3-0. He even beat Japan 2-1. Mark my words he is favorite to be the next head coach of national team if IFF does not find a decent foreign coach outside Iran.

I really hope so, at least then people will again appreciate all the things that CQ did in the long-term which aren't quantifiable.

Once we go back to the slapping on the pitch of 2004 and not passing to each other/not talking to each other of 2006 we'll see just one of the many MANY reasons why Branko was poisonous for TM in the LONG TERM

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The Branko effect for TM.

- SPINELESSNESS: Sticking with one goalkeeper (Mirzapour) who was error-prone, and not even giving a chance to test other alternatives, and there were a few (contrast with CQ). Not altering his tactics and game plan, and keeping with the same formations/line-ups for every damn game. He just didn't want to experiment and try different players, he didn't like any chance. We had a series of very feeble performances in the 2005-early 2006 period but NOTHING was changed after them, and he had a lot more new talent at his disposal than his predecessors (remember poor Pourheidari who had a midfield of Fekri, Navazi, Halali to pick from)

- OUTSIDE INFLUENCE: Branko let himself be influenced too much by player agents such as Reza Fazeli who was in the TM camp for the World Cup, and we all know that it affected the team spirit. He also let Daei dictate matters far too much in terms of team selection.

- TEAM SPIRIT: Our team spirit was the worst for WC06 when players were even refusing to pass to each other, let alone speaking with each other, or even slapping each other on the pitch in the most embarrassing event of iranian football history (contrast with CQ and the tight-knit unit he has built)

- TACTICAL NONSENSE: After finally bringing Bayern Munich's Hashemian back into the fold, he pushed him out to the wing (absolute no man's land) to accommodate a stagnant Ali Daei, who was playing 90 minutes for every game, not even subbed out for young strikers to get a chance to get some game time.

- TROLLING: Bringing Khatibi back to TM, starting him and Enayati. Khatibi was a constant source of frustration, the worst finisher we have ever had internationally, how he had so many caps no one can explain (well, apart from Branko and Khatibi's agent at the time Fazeli probably).

- POOR TEAM SELECTION: When we had more talented players, I never understood why Branko picked Badavi, Alavi, Kameli Mofrad, Khatibi, Sattar Zare. He had a favoured group of players who he stuck with, who were worse than a number of their peers in IPL. His team selections were often the antithesis of meritocracy, contrast with the most recent coach.

- OGHDEH - Falling out with his prized player when the latter refused to move to Dynamo Zagreb in 2005. At the time he was the only two-footed playmaker apart from Karimi and he was player of the year in IPL at the age of 21. He was just dropped after Branko's lajbaazi.

- STIFLING DEVELOPMENT - We had, at the time, arguably our brightest crop of aged 18-22 youngsters who all looked very talented. They weren't given enough playing time internationally to develop and ended up dwindling, as the coach just kept playing the same people for 90 minutes regardless of how they performed (contrast with CQ). Everyone remembers how healthily these players were developing until they hit a brick wall of a coach who just didn't give them the opportunities that e.g. Queiroz gave Azmoun, Beiranvand, Taremi, Ezatollahi and many more

- CONDITIONING AND INJURIES - His obsession with playing long-term injured players when they still needed recovery was long-lasting for some of our most promising players in that era some of whom never really recovered. Instead of waiting for players to be 100% fit.

[DR Strangemoosh]

What you said is totally irrelevant.

No, it is YOU who doesn't see the relevance. Through your club-tinted spectacles. Your perspolis, your esteghlal, your tractor, your sepahan. At the end of the day they can all F themselves when it comes to TM.

You see, here on this site most people don't care about iranian domestic football. Feel free to love your local club and its coach, but don't expect everyone to see things your way, especially people who don't subscribe to the media/social media circus in Iran and whose only interest is seeing TM matches in the stadium or on TV.

[Sarbaze-Vatan]

In the following link which was in 2018, Branko Ivankovic said CQ is from Mozambique. So his character is not surprising.

https://www.tabnak.ir/fa/news/812466...B1%D9%88%D8%B4

He also had an interview with one of the newspapers in 2018 and said what this Portugal national team has other than Ronaldo to make them look better than Croatia or even Iran? Then he said nothing.

[Sarbaze-Vatan]

No, it is YOU who doesn't see the relevance. Through your club-tinted spectacles. Your perspolis, your esteghlal, your tractor, your sepahan. At the end of the day they can all F themselves when it comes to TM.
You see, here on this site most people don't care about iranian domestic football. Feel free to love your local club and its coach, but don't expect everyone to see things your way, especially people who don't subscribe to the media/social media circus in Iran and whose only interest is seeing TM matches in the stadium or on TV.

When CQ was our coach, he took the national team to his country Portugal and decided to have picnic by playing against two Portuguese clubs. He wanted to make Iran NT look embarrassed in front of his beloved countrymen. On the other hand, Branko Ivankovic took our national team to Croatia and played against Senior Croatia national team when he was our head coach. Do you see the difference? CQ is a classless person as Portuguese told me but Branko Ivankovic is a real gentlemen. I am glad that we at least did not lost to Portugal in WC 2018 although we could have won that match.

[FutbolGods]

CQ is charlatan. Branko is known as gentlemen everywhere.

LMAO! The thought process of Brankollahis is so childlike it's tragic.

First, let's discuss where Branko is actually known, then we'll discuss who thinks that third rate con artist is a "gentleman". The only people who think Branko is a "respected professor" are clueless red fans inside Iran who have no idea what the world is like outside, and given your genius English, it's obvious you have a lot in common with them.

The only reason people like you hate CQ and worship Branko is because of your club loyalty. Nothing more. If CQ was coaching Perspolis and Branko was in charge of team melli, you and the other couple of geniuses here would be arguing the exact opposite. Your motives are as pathetic as your reasoning.

[Sarbaze-Vatan]

I really hope so, at least then people will again appreciate all the things that CQ did in the long-term which aren't quantifiable.

Once we go back to the slapping on the pitch of 2004 and not passing to each other/not talking to each other of 2006 we'll see just one of the many MANY reasons why Branko was poisonous for TM in the LONG TERM

----------------------------------------------

The Branko effect for TM.

- SPINELESSNESS: Sticking with one goalkeeper (Mirzapour) who was error-prone, and not even giving a chance to test other alternatives, and there were a few (contrast with CQ). Not altering his tactics and game plan, and keeping with the same formations/line-ups for every damn game. He just didn't want to experiment and try different players, he didn't like any chance. We had a series of very feeble performances in the 2005-early 2006 period but NOTHING was changed after them, and he had a lot more new talent at his disposal than his predecessors (remember poor Pourheidari who had a midfield of Fekri, Navazi, Halali to pick from)

- OUTSIDE INFLUENCE: Branko let himself be influenced too much by player agents such as Reza Fazeli who was in the TM camp for the World Cup, and we all know that it affected the team spirit. He also let Daei dictate matters far too much in terms of team selection.

- TEAM SPIRIT: Our team spirit was the worst for WC06 when players were even refusing to pass to each other, let alone speaking with each other, or even slapping each other on the pitch in the most embarrassing event of iranian football history (contrast with CQ and the tight-knit unit he has built)

- TACTICAL NONSENSE: After finally bringing Bayern Munich's Hashemian back into the fold, he pushed him out to the wing (absolute no man's land) to accommodate a stagnant Ali Daei, who was playing 90 minutes for every game, not even subbed out for young strikers to get a chance to get some game time.

- TROLLING: Bringing Khatibi back to TM, starting him and Enayati. Khatibi was a constant source of frustration, the worst finisher we have ever had internationally, how he had so many caps no one can explain (well, apart from Branko and Khatibi's agent at the time Fazeli probably).

- POOR TEAM SELECTION: When we had more talented players, I never understood why Branko picked Badavi, Alavi, Kameli Mofrad, Khatibi, Sattar Zare. He had a favoured group of players who he stuck with, who were worse than a number of their peers in IPL. His team selections were often the antithesis of meritocracy, contrast with the most recent coach.

- OGHDEH - Falling out with his prized player when the latter refused to move to Dynamo Zagreb in 2005. At the time he was the only two-footed playmaker apart from Karimi and he was player of the year in IPL at the age of 21. He was just dropped after Branko's lajbaazi.

- STIFLING DEVELOPMENT - We had, at the time, arguably our brightest crop of aged 18-22 youngsters who all looked very talented. They weren't given enough playing time internationally to develop and ended up dwindling, as the coach just kept playing the same people for 90 minutes regardless of how they performed (contrast with CQ). Everyone remembers how healthily these players were developing until they hit a brick wall of a coach who just didn't give them the opportunities that e.g. Queiroz gave Azmoun, Beiranvand, Taremi, Ezatollahi and many more

- CONDITIONING AND INJURIES - His obsession with playing long-term injured players when they still needed recovery was long-lasting for some of our most promising players in that era some of whom never really recovered. Instead of waiting for players to be 100% fit.

Branko had mistakes when he coached the national team but he is currently a much better coach. CQ had many more errors. According to Branko Ivankovic, he is a champion for the fans like you who has never won any title in senior level. https://www.isna.ir/news/97040603658...A8%DB%8C%D8%AA

[DR Strangemoosh]

When CQ was our coach, he took the national team to his country Portugal and decided to have picnic by playing against two Portuguese clubs. He wanted to make Iran NT look embarrassed in front of his beloved countrymen. On the other hand, Branko Ivankovic took our national team to Croatia and played against Senior Croatia national team when he was our head coach. Do you see the difference? CQ is a classless person as Portuguese told me but Branko Ivankovic is a real gentlemen. I am glad that we at least did not lost to Portugal in WC 2018 although we could have won that match.

Absolute biased ..... Your post is such a Branko-tinted view on events it is unreal.


Given that you are the person who said we shouldn't even go to the Asian Cup

http://www.persianfootball.com/forum...t=#post2589896

I'm going to copy and paste your own, somewhat unwarranted in its aggression, swear against me:

Please stfu.

http://www.persianfootball.com/forum...uq#post2628194

[DR Strangemoosh]

Branko had mistakes when he coached the national team but he is currently a much better coach. CQ had many more errors. According to Branko Ivankovic, he is a champion for the fans like you who has never won any title in senior level. ]

Bullshit, Queiroz had none of the long-term consistent issues that I have listed there. Mirzapour would have ended up with 15-20 caps rather than 71

Rather than poisoning the soil, CQ's impact was to sow seeds for the future. Branko gave such a damaged football team to his successor... Anyway, if you can't appreciate how Queiroz changed our football in ways that you can't score then go and learn what the taste of salt is.

[Sarbaze-Vatan]

Do not like Mayeli Kohan but I could not stop laughing after his following comment about CQ:

"It is not at all the duty of Team Melli’s coach to decide how many teams should be in the league. Carlos Queiroz belongs to country named Mozambique. I like this country and its football but Mozambique has no reputation in the world football hierarchy. However, even in Mozambique, Queiroz will not be allowed to interfere in such issues because this beyond his expertise and terms of reference. But here, we are asking Queiroz about right number of teams in our premiere division, we are sliding down. Looks like he wants us to back to the old times again."

https://www.teammelli.com/2013/04/26...-team-melli-2/

[FutbolGods]

Branko Ivankovic at least did not lost to Japan 3-0. He even beat Japan 2-1. Mark my words he is favorite to be the next head coach of national team if IFF does not find a decent foreign coach outside Iran.

You're right. Professor Dallalovic didn't lose to Japan 3-0 in the semifinals of the Asian Cup. He lost to Jordan in Tehran in World Cup Qualifiers and lost to Qashaei with Perspolis in the Hazfi cup. Losing to Qashaei with Perspolis is like losing to Afghanistan with team melli!

You want to worship your club and the charlatan who's coaching it for now? go ahead. I just don't know why people like you have to worry about team melli. Just enjoy your ride with the Doctor Professor against world giants like Peykan and the 5th team of UAE. Best of luck buddy.

[FutbolGods]

Anyway, if you can't appreciate how Queiroz changed our football in ways that you can't score then go and learn what the taste of salt is.

Like I said, reverse CQ and Branko's positions and these guy would be arguing the exact opposite! Their whole love affair with Branko and hatred of CQ comes down to a pathetic allegiance to club over country. I see no need to pretend there's any higher motives worth respecting here. It's not just a question of intelligence; it's a matter of character.