Wilmots OUT NOW

[sam20]

He is absolutely correct. The post CQ team is void of brains and skills. If Wilmots or any coach wants to change things they need to replace half the team. Wilmots needs to understand these player were not picked because they are the best players we have or best players even in their posts, these players were fit for Cq's strategy. TM needs to shed this skin. In conclusion Roshan knows more football than you and you are even more audacious for questioning his knowledge and expertise.

If you knew EVEN ONE THING about football, you'd understand that a good coach knows how to pick the best players for his style of play / strategy, and that's exactly what CQ did, which is why he, undeniably despite your delusion, produced the best results and most successful world cup campaigns in TM's history.

Who the heck is Hassan Roshan to comment on this? Just because he was a good player (for iranian standards, nobody else has ever heard of him), doesn't mean he knows tactics and coaching properly. He's just another jealous clown, like all those old school iranian players / coaches that are jealous of CQ's success and the fact that he's achieved more with Iran than all of them combined.

[elnino99]

Wimots was always gonna be a disaster.

One bad spell? okay maybe due to back luck. TWO? okay maybe we should start asking questions...THREE? I'm sorry, find the common denominator.

This is the guy under whom a super-talented Belgium side was more toothless and importent than Aqa khan-qajar in a WC quarterfinal vs. Argentina. Legit, Iran with super defensive tactics created more chances vs. Argies in that World Cup than Belgium with all their stars.

Then 2 years ago, he manages this golden generation team to not only lose, but be dominated and comprehensively beaten by WALES of all teams...when free agent and clubless bum like Robsun-Kanou looks like prime Brazilian Ronaldo against Belgium.

Then takes over the African Champions and manages the feet of failing to qualify to a WC with them for the first time in 12 years.

I have no idea what IFF was thinking offering him the job. Nothing adds up....except that he's "Khareji".

It's like Liverpool parting ways with Klopp in 2022 and going in and appoint Mark Hughes as his successor.

Cut our losses before it's too late. We can still salvage this with 3 home games left. But we'll need MINIMUM 10 points, possibly all 12 to qualify. Easier said than done, especially when you just know Iraqis WOULD LOVE to spoil the party and make us cry in that serious do-or-die match at Azadi in June.

[Doctor DOOM]

I forgot to add,
The iraqi players had fire n tem, to win the game.
our players simply didnt!
over confidence perhaps. too lax, maybe?
whatever, but they really didnt look like they're fired up.

[Kiarash]

I forgot to add,
The iraqi players had fire n tem, to win the game.
our players simply didnt!
over confidence perhaps. too lax, maybe?
whatever, but they really didnt look like they're fired up.

I'm starting to think that the players simply found out that Wilmots is a clueless manager, so they have no reason to be motivated and perform. After all our team mentality has always been a major issues and CQ has adressed this constantly, he was on top of everything and made sure players would give their all for TM. Now it looks like the players simply don't feel the urge to perform, because of their bad manager. This is the nature of group dynamics!

[onebloodfool]

The problem is, that we have a Coach who made an horrible line-up, no game plan and was not able to anticipate that Masoud is not mature enough to avoid red cards.
I mean seriously, how on earth can Wilmots ignore players like Alireza Jahanbakhsh, Gholizadeh, Kaveh Rezai for such an crucial game and start 35 years old Masoud who hadn't a good game since 2011 or something (he was never a constantly good player at all)?
Obviosly the future will be very dark with Wilmots in charge.

should we wait until we are guaranteed out of WC to fire him? What coach will want to come to iran then...the one thing we can offer a coach from a professional and CV standpoint is the chance of coaching a solid team in WC and providing an upset. Who will want to coach us if we dont have a meaningful fixture until AC 2023???

It's not reactionary. Wilmots is a horrible coach with a poor track record. If he stays then we are doomed

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Lets get some perspective here. We've lost away fixtures against nations, that Iran traditionally has had a hard time beating, even under CQ. Except for the pounding we gave Bahrain in 2011, we escaped with a draw in the dying minutes of extra time in Manama back then.
I dont think Wilmots has been a catastrophe for Iran, its waaaay to early to claim that.

[Picasso]

The difference between CQ and Wilmots among other things is CQ's first priority was to win and go to WC this guy his first priority is money and getting paid on time.

[Bladsville]

I dont think Wilmots has been a catastrophe for Iran, its waaaay to early to claim that.

We are on the verge of not qualifying for the WC after 2 straight losses. Both of which we as layman football enthusiasts could clear as day see were tactical disasters. From his choice of call-ups, starting line-ups, subs, positioning, training, everything has been sub par and a disgrace. Then after everything he blames it on "bad luck". Seems as if he doesn't care about the Iranian people the way CQ did. He just cares about a paycheck and thats it.

It may be too early for a complete catastrophe, but we are sure as hell almost there. I think its best to rectify this before it gets there.

[BacheLot]

A key part here is Wilmots agreeing to choose his tactics based on IFF's preference. He was basically brought in because unlike CQ and Renard he could be controlled.

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به گزارش خبرورزشی، مأمور فدراسیون در مذاکره مستقیم با ر*نار، عباس ترابیان سرپرست سابق روابط بین*الملل فدراسیون فوتبال بود. او که در گذشته مسئول مذاکره با کارلوس کی*روش بود و این مربی پرتغالی را به تیم ملی آورد، این بار هم پای میز مذاکره نشست تا بتواند اروه ر*نار را قانع به حضور در تیم ملی کند.
پیش از آن گفته می*شد فدراسیون در جام ملت*ها از مربی فرانسوی خواسته بود تا بازی*های ایران را تماشا کند. عباس ترابیان در زمانی که فدراسیون فوتبال اعلام کرد ابتدا به صورت تلفنی با اروه ر*نار و ایجنت الجزایری*اش صحبت کرد. در ادامه قرار شد طرفین در کشور سنگال با هم ملاقات کنند. ترابیان در این باره به خبرورزشی می*گوید: «بله این اتفاق افتاد و من به درخواست فدراسیون فوتبال برای مذاکره با ر*نار عازم سنگال شدم. مذاکرات با او بسیار خوب پیش رفت. این مربی واقعاً علاقه*مند بود که به ایران بیاید.»
توافق طرفین قطعی شد و اروه ر*نار پذیرفت به ازای دریافت سالانه ۲ میلیون دلار با فدراسیون فوتبال قرارداد امضا کند. همسر ر*نار هم در جریان مذاکرات قرار داشت. به هر حال برای او مهم بود اروه قرار است کجا مربیگری کند. این مربی فرانسوی همیشه خانواده خود را کنارش دارد، به همین خاطر همسر ر*نار هم درباره شرایط ایران و زندگی در کشورمان سؤالاتی داشت. او در گذشته همسر برونو متسو بود. آن*ها ۴ فرزند هم داشتند. بعد از مرگ این مربی نام*آشنای فرانسوی که در دوره*ای برای مذاکره با پرسپولیس هم به تهران سفر کرده بود، اروه ر*نار که دستیار سابقش بود، با همسر او ازدواج کرد و ۴ فرزند او را هم پذیرفت.
خانواده ر*نار در جریان مذاکرات از همه چیز رضایت داشتند و قرار شد بعد از بازگشت عباس ترابیان به ایران قرارداد تنظیم و برای این مربی ارسال شود. در این بین، اما نه ترابیان و نه ر*نار نمی*دانستند از سوی دیگر اتفاقات دیگری در جریان است. با پادرمیانی یکی از سفرای ایران در اروپا و همین*طور یک ایجنت فوتبال، سرمربی بلژیکی به ایران پیشنهاد شد. فدراسیون فوتبال ابتدا تصور می*کرد این مربی همان کسی است که در حال حاضر روی نیمکت بلژیک می*نشیند. به همین دلیل تاج و همکارانش ذوق زده شدند. آن*ها در ادامه، اما فهمیدند مارک ویلموتس نه حالا که در گذشته سرمربی تیم ملی بلژیک بوده است. مذاکرات با او آغاز شد و در نهایت طرفین به توافق رسیدند تا مربی بلژیکی به تیم ملی بیاید. او یک حسن ویژه داشت و آن این بود که به خواسته فدراسیون عمل می*کرد. اروه ر*نار تفکرات تاکتیکی خود را داشت و فدراسیون نمی*توانست به او بگوید هجومی بازی کند؛ به ویژه اینکه مربی فرانسوی بازی ایران مقابل ژاپن را هم دیده بود. ویلموتس، اما به نظر فدراسیون تمکین کرد و پذیرفت به خواسته آن*ها تیمی هجومی بچیند، اما از نظر مالی حضور مربی فرانسوی بسیار به صرفه*تر بود.
یکی از دلایل قطع همکاری فدراسیون فوتبال با کارلوس کی*روش علاوه بر اخلاق او، مسئله مالی بود. تاج اعتقاد داشت دستمزد بالای این مربی برای آن*ها مشکلات مالی زیادی به وجود آورده. آخرین قرارداد کی*روش که ۶ ماهه بود، ارزش ۸۰۰ هزار دلاری برای این مربی داشت. بنابراین اگر او می*خواست یک ساله تمدید کند یک میلیون و ۶۰۰ هزار دلار می*خواست. بنابراین توقع می*رفت مربی جدید رقمی بگیرد که حداقل با حرف*های تاج برای صرفه*جویی مالی همخوانی داشته باشد. حالا، اما منابع خبری و نزدیک به فدراسیون فوتبال فاش کرده*اند این مربی سالانه ۳ میلیون دلار دستمزد می*گیرد! یعنی حقوق مارک ویلموتس در ایران بالای ۳۳ میلیارد تومان است. البته یک منبع خبری دیگر گفت این رقم دستمزد ویلموتس و دستیارانش است که آورده ولی مگر دستمزد دستیاران او چقدر است؟ ر*نار اعلام کرده بود در سفر به ایران تنها دو دستیار خود را به همراه می*آورد ولی اکثر دستیاران ویلموتس خارجی هستند و وحید هاشمیان تنها عضو ایرانی کادر فنی است. شواهد نشان می*دهد سنخیتی بین حرف*های تاج بعد از جدایی کی*روش و پیش از امضای قرارداد ویلموتس با اتفاقی که پس از آن رخ داد، وجود ندارد

Ask yourself what self-respecting coach (no matter their level of coaching is) would accept such a pre-hiring condition ????
absolutely nobody but a Pure Mercenary Coach who's Only motivation is his paycheck and nothing more..!!

#WilmotsOUT

AND THAT so immediately...!!

[Bladsville]

#WilmotsOUT

Would be cool to get this hashtag trending..

#WilmotsOUT

[saeed_noro]

all time in my head...probably wilmots is getting two wages. one from iran, and other from saudi arabia and others countries, to make sure, iran do not qualify for the next round...we can trust usa and other states, all they want is an world cup in qatar without iran....

[Bladsville]

all time in my head...probably wilmots is getting two wages. one from iran, and other from saudi arabia and others countries, to make sure, iran do not qualify for the next round...we can trust usa and other states, all they want is an world cup in qatar without iran....

As much as I would like to play into conspiracies, I dont think thats the case here.

What is apparent is the incompetence of the manager.

[DR Strangemoosh]

Don't blame Wilmots. He is doing the best he can with a bunch of players who aren't great. We have over-achieved over the last 8 years for the talent we have got. Now we are returning to the true level of our players' skill. And the reason why we are not generating more talented players lies with the problems of our development and nurturing the grassroots - something Kia is doing his best to change from bottom up.

In terms of our current situation, don't blame Wilmots (the scapegoat) but blame this culture of Namak NashnAssi - attacking a coach who did so fking much for us (Queiroz) - still happening by some members on this forum after the match.... Blame "team mellieh mannnneeehhhh"

Either people who don't appreciate what they've got or people who change their tune for political reasons

[Bladsville]

Don't blame Wilmots. He is doing the best he can with a bunch of players who aren't great.

Who else are we supposed to blame when old heads are in our starting line-up and goal thirsty legionnaires are sitting on the bench?

[Doctor DOOM]

can someone tell me how many test games we've had since the beginning of the WCQ's (or Wilmot's tenure)?

This is not in defense of him. I just want to know so I can see whether he's had enough time to work with & test our lads

[Bladsville]

How much time does it take to realize that a 35 year old man needs to sit his old ass on the bench, a 20 year old IPL player should not start before a Belgian goal scoring legionnaire, and tried and true players like ARJ need to be called up regardless of what is going on in their club?