TM-News-Vol. 6

[Iranianarsenal11]

You can't compare apples with oranges my friend. You have to compare apples with apples and oranges with oranges and when we compare Queiroz to Branko we can see that the latter has done a better job at the Asian cup. TM under Branko was at the verge of reaching the final after losing on penalties to China (who were cheating at home by bribing the referee). While TM under Queiroz lost to Iraq and got thrashed by Japan.

Eight years of Carlito Queiroz and no Asian cup final and no second round in the world cup (meaning nothing new), so what are you guys worshipping Queiroz for exactly? For parking the bus like there is no tomorrow?

Bruhhhh... We couldn't even beat Bahrain and random arab minnows before Carlos

CQ instilled discipline and a defensive foundation that got us 4 points in a group with Morocco, Spain, and Portugal, where we could've beat Spain and Portugal if not for two very lucky goals from Quaresma and Costa...

I'm not even a die hard CQ fan either. Look, he's not coming back and I get it. We have to move on. I'm willing to give Skocic a chance and so far he's been solid, but ffs man Branko??

Branko is a nobody. There's a reason Branko is coaching Oman while CQ is coaching arguably the greatest player in the world Salah and one of the best African teams.

[Leicester City]

Bruhhhh... We couldn't even beat Bahrain and random arab minnows before Carlos

Funny how we beat Bahrain in 2004 Asian Cup to win 3rd place, but apparently we weren't able to beat "Arab teams" before Carlos.

But hey, narratives...

[peiman92]

So you're saying that the likes of Pejman Nouri, Mohammad Nouri, Ghazi and Maziar Zare were not on the same level as the players that we have now? (sarcasm)

Lol, but on a serious note the players we have now would have been on the same level as the players you mentioned, if not for CQ.
He made it clear from the start that he favored players playing in europe, indirectly forcing players with TM aspirations to go to Europe and improve their game.

[sam20]

Funny how we beat Bahrain in 2004 Asian Cup to win 3rd place, but apparently we weren't able to beat "Arab teams" before Carlos.
But hey, narratives...

Are you using one match to try and prove your point? It's not convincing at all to be honest.

We struggled on a regular basis vs Arab teams under Branko.

Didn't we struggle to make it out of our group in that tournament by barely tying Oman or something similar?

You can't possibly think our team was nearly as good under Branko as it was under cq. It's clear as daylight for anyone who doesn't have a bias/dislike cq playing style because it's defensive.

[peiman92]

I did and this is what I found:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._team_managers

Lol you can twist reality with what the hell you want. The fact remains, he guided us to 2 consecutive world cups, which included our most impressive WCQ( 2018) ever.
In the WC we almost beat Nigeria, Argentina, Spain, Portugal and beat Morocco, Which other TM coach comes even close to that?

[sam20]

Are you saying that 60% win percentage in Asia with Iran says something other than what it says? Please enlighten us.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._team_managers

Numbers don't lie, but they don't tell the whole truth.

Example: in 2108 world cup qualifying Carlos queiroz played 10 Matches. 6 wins, 4 draws, 0 losses.

That's 60% winning percentage, less than Brankos winning % in 2006 qualifying.

However, Branko played only 6 matches. Only 4 teams in the group, less traveling, less matches.

Branko still lost one match, conceded more goals, finished second, and BARELY got one point in the world cup against DEBUTANTS ANGOLA & FINISHED LAST IN THE GROUP.

Carlos was undefeated through 10 matches, conceded ZERO goals until the final match, won the group, and earned 4 points, beating Morocco, drew Portugal and barely lost to soain.

1 point away from round of 16th.

That's the difference.

If you don't have a severe issue with bias, which you unfortunately do, you can clearly see Carlos Queiroz earned much better results and his team played much better Football.

[St_Mark]

AFC Asian Cup qualifiers to be single round robin ties in centralised venues

• Reuters

The final round of qualifiers for the 2023 AFC Asian Cup will be changed from the home and away format to single round-robin ties and played in centralised venues due to the COVID-19 pandemic, the Asian Football Confederation said on Wednesday.
The Asian Cup, the continental governing body's flagship men's tournament, is set to be held in China from June 16 to July 16 in 2023.
"The decision was taken by the AFC Executive Committee after taking into consideration the existing challenges caused by the COVID-19 pandemic, while prioritising the safety and wellbeing of all stakeholders...," the AFC said in a statement.
The AFC said that the final round will be held on June 8, June 11 and June 14 next year, with the governing body opening the bidding process in due course to countries interested in hosting those games.
"The new match schedule may be amended where necessary pursuant to relevant provisions of the competition regulations," the AFC added.
The 2023 Asian Cup will feature 24 teams, with Qatar as the defending champions after they won their maiden title in the 2019 edition in the United Arab Emirates.

[Futbaldoost]

^ Iran is already qualified. It won't impact TM.

Go TM!

[GoIran]

https://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-rank...dateId=id13442
FIFA ranking - October

22 Iran
28 Japan
34 Australia
35 South Korea
46 Qatar

[tooleh khers]

Numbers don't lie, but they don't tell the whole truth.
Example: in 2108 world cup qualifying Carlos queiroz played 10 Matches. 6 wins, 4 draws, 0 losses.
That's 60% winning percentage, less than Brankos winning % in 2006 qualifying.
However, Branko played only 6 matches. Only 4 teams in the group, less traveling, less matches.
Branko still lost one match, conceded more goals, finished second, and BARELY got one point in the world cup against DEBUTANTS ANGOLA & FINISHED LAST IN THE GROUP.
Carlos was undefeated through 10 matches, conceded ZERO goals until the final match, won the group, and earned 4 points, beating Morocco, drew Portugal and barely lost to soain.
1 point away from round of 16th.
That's the difference.
If you don't have a severe issue with bias, which you unfortunately do, you can clearly see Carlos Queiroz earned much better results and his team played much better Football.

Who has the bias now? first you compare branko's 3-4 year at the helm with CQ's 8th?! what happened to 2014? Biased much? You should be comparing a group with two top 10 seeds, Portugal's golden generation and one of Mexico's best teams to Bosnia, and Nigeria? Using words like "zero goals until" and "barely lost" and "1 point away from round of 16th" are only words bias people would use as they are meaningless. Results speak for themselves and even if you + 10 Billion people claim otherwise it is the overall stats that show a final result. Had he won something (anything) or advanced to the round of 16 then a few percentages in winning would not matter but funny thing about stats is had he done that his winning % would be higher as well. A former Sharif student also tried to compare 8 years of CQ and two participation stats in Asian cup and world cup to try to say CQ had a better stat by a percent or something. Earned better results? what? where? I wish this was true. He won nothing and did absolutely nothing above average with TM. 60% is a telling stat. This is in Asia with Iran. Regarding playing better football, TM played the worst football I have ever seen. so this is your opinion.

[Firooz]

Who has the bias now? first you compare branko's 3-4 year at the helm with CQ's 8th?! what happened to 2014? Biased much? You should be comparing a group with two top 10 seeds, Portugal's golden generation and one of Mexico's best teams to Bosnia, and Nigeria? Using words like "zero goals until" and "barely lost" and "1 point away from round of 16th" are only words bias people would use as they are meaningless. Results speak for themselves and even if you + 10 Billion people claim otherwise it is the overall stats that show a final result. Had he won something (anything) or advanced to the round of 16 then a few percentages in winning would not matter but funny thing about stats is had he done that his winning % would be higher as well. A former Sharif student also tried to compare 8 years of CQ and two participation stats in Asian cup and world cup to try to say CQ had a better stat by a percent or something. Earned better results? what? where? I wish this was true. He won nothing and did absolutely nothing above average with TM. 60% is a telling stat. This is in Asia with Iran. Regarding playing better football, TM played the worst football I have ever seen. so this is your opinion.

Wrong. Stats don't tell anything. If stats were telling then every time a team with a better percentage for possession would have to win which we know is not the case.

[KC McElroy]

Who has the bias now? first you compare branko's 3-4 year at the helm with CQ's 8th?! what happened to 2014? Biased much? You should be comparing a group with two top 10 seeds, Portugal's golden generation and one of Mexico's best teams to Bosnia, and Nigeria? Using words like "zero goals until" and "barely lost" and "1 point away from round of 16th" are only words bias people would use as they are meaningless. Results speak for themselves and even if you + 10 Billion people claim otherwise it is the overall stats that show a final result. Had he won something (anything) or advanced to the round of 16 then a few percentages in winning would not matter but funny thing about stats is had he done that his winning % would be higher as well. A former Sharif student also tried to compare 8 years of CQ and two participation stats in Asian cup and world cup to try to say CQ had a better stat by a percent or something. Earned better results? what? where? I wish this was true. He won nothing and did absolutely nothing above average with TM. 60% is a telling stat. This is in Asia with Iran. Regarding playing better football, TM played the worst football I have ever seen. so this is your opinion.

[diz]

If we keep keep up our undefeated streak, hoping we can break into the top 20 before WC. It’s been a long time since that happened!

[The]

This came out a day before Mehdi's posts, but still a good discussion regarding Skocic and Drama around Team Melli:

[sam20]

Who has the bias now? first you compare branko's 3-4 year at the helm with CQ's 8th?! what happened to 2014? Biased much? You should be comparing a group with two top 10 seeds, Portugal's golden generation and one of Mexico's best teams to Bosnia, and Nigeria? Using words like "zero goals until" and "barely lost" and "1 point away from round of 16th" are only words bias people would use as they are meaningless. Results speak for themselves and even if you + 10 Billion people claim otherwise it is the overall stats that show a final result. Had he won something (anything) or advanced to the round of 16 then a few percentages in winning would not matter but funny thing about stats is had he done that his winning % would be higher as well. A former Sharif student also tried to compare 8 years of CQ and two participation stats in Asian cup and world cup to try to say CQ had a better stat by a percent or something. Earned better results? what? where? I wish this was true. He won nothing and did absolutely nothing above average with TM. 60% is a telling stat. This is in Asia with Iran. Regarding playing better football, TM played the worst football I have ever seen. so this is your opinion.

Lollll why do you think Carlos got a second run and Branko didn't? Man you are LEGIT DELUSIONAL

Also, did you not notice how Carlos still finished first in his world cup qualifying group in his first try?


LOL that Mexico team didn't do any better than other versions. Round of 16 elimination.

ONCE AGAIN HERE IS YOUR PROBLEM - NOT READING BETWEEN THE LINES. - we played terribly vs Mexico. It was a pathetic performance on second half because our team was so unfit, since Branko was a third rate coach and didn't work on this aspect like Carlos did.

Also, Bosnia golden generation in 2014 was just as good as Mexico 06, if not better. They barely lost to the world cup runners up Argentina.

Let's not forget once again that we barely tied Angola.... WHICH YOU SEEM TO IGNORE due to delusion. Also, we were being toyed around with by Portugal like amateurs under Branko.

Lolll how does "didn't concede until" show bias From me? The point was that when it mattered, we didn't concede A SINGLE GOAL. We only conceded after we qualified to the world cup - very simple thing to understand if you actually know your facts and are living in reality.

You need a serious reality check and to stop being so incredibly biased. This is why nobody here takes you seriously and I will largely be ignoring your posts from now on.