Friendly: Bosnia and Herzegovina - Iran; Info, Updates and Live Reports (12.11.2020)

[The]

We can tell the difference between pointing out strenghts and weaknesses and hating. And some here appear to be a bit jelly. A strikers job is to score goals and Azmoun has been doing that pretty damn well, in fact if he continues like this he will become TM's best striker ever.

You yourself where hating big time on Azmoun in the past and just recently hating on Ezatolahi (all it takes is a look in your posts). I mean these two are among our most talented players, so why would you hate on them? It's one thing to name the strengths and weaknesses of any TM player. But what you and Mehdi are doing is systematic bashing and that my friend has nothing to do with analysing a players game.

So have you thus far listed the strengths and weaknesses of Kaveh Rezaei yet? If not, why not start now on this thread?

Again, nobody is hating. Just pointing out that Kaveh played a big role in the pressing witnessed against Bosnia , something he is typically better at than Sardar and Karim.

[Farzadfarhangni]

Why do we always feel that our opinions are facts... The pressometer has not been invented to prove one player presses better than another. Same with playometer that proves one player is better than the other. These are just opinions.

Here is a pop quiz. Identify which of the following two statements is a fact and which is an opinion:

Ghaedi is our best forward.
Ghaedi is our shortest forward.

No disrespect intended. Just wanted to lighten the mood.

BTW, I have only seen Ghaedi play for 30 minutes and I am already super impressed. Amazing cameo appearances the last two Iran games. It is going to be hard picking just four attaching players (one ACM and three wingers/forwards) from so many quality players. (Azmoun, Taremi, Rezaie, Ansarifard, Ghodos, Jahanbakhsh, Gholizadeh, Ghaedi, Amiri and plenty more knocking on the door like Sayadmanesh, Delfi, Mehrdad Mohammadi, Shahab Zahedi, Torabi, etc...) Good to have so much depth. Now we understand what headaches Brazilian coaches must have to pick a team...

[rdwrrr]

I still remember Kaveh's goal from U17 world Cup

[Medzdidz]

Out of all of this , it is good that we are able to have these discussions about our strikers. We are so stacked in that position, that we are able to leave Taremi and Azmoun out of the squad and still beat a decent Bosnia side 2-0.

[inarsenewetrust]

Forget the GIFs for a moment. I can bring up even more goals than that. I’ve watched all his TM and CL/EL games, and probably ~80% of his Zenit games. I have never made or will ever make the argument that Rezaei, Taremi or anyone else is a better player than him. But I do recognize and admit he has flaws, like every other player or may be less effective with certain tactics. I stand by what I said previously, I don’t think he gives you the work rate of a Rezaei or Taremi. I’ve seen many games where he starts very hashari, but he burns out. He does get subbed out often. More than Dzyuba who, despite his size and age, has a pretty impressive work rate.

great then focus on your complaints about his pressing. Back it up with some statistical evidence that he is running less than his teammates (I have looked and at least in CL games where the stats are readily available that is not the case).

When you post two gifs of him missing chances then that sends a different message that you are not really into any sort of objective criticism. Just want to make a joke of somebody (what a hater does). You can find 100 gifs of misses for basically all center forwards who are any decent in world football, including the very best.

[koorosh]

I still remember Kaveh's goal from U17 world Cup

Which goal? Link please!

[webmaster]

^ this one??.. sorry for the annoying music.

or this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E76EZrMt-oY

[webmaster]

Out of all of this , it is good that we are able to have these discussions about our strikers. We are so stacked in that position, that we are able to leave Taremi and Azmoun out of the squad and still beat a decent Bosnia side 2-0.

Cause we are a talented bunch??? but if you replace Bosnia with Portugal, we might lose due to lack of great players? we need all we can get and use every weapon in war instead of being picky.

Instead of all these arguments. Thank God that we do have quality players and can have at least a couple of STRONG TMs without any doubts.

[Sepehr9]

Where do you guys rank Issa Alekasir in the striker depth list? Do you guys think he is TM material? (What is your opinions about him?)

Alekasir is for sure TM material!! The guy is a beast and plays with alot of passion. The thing is that we have many incredible strikers and forwards by our standards. Any other time in the past he would've for sure been a part of TM and maybe even a starter!

He is much better than our former strikers: Khatibi, Enayati, Gholamreza Rezaei and Ali Mousavi who all had many caps for TM. But seeing the many great forwards we have now he has to show himself more at Perspolis and who knows he might take the position of Kaveh Rezaei or Ansarifard. He certaintly has the potential!

[Ali Doust]

Alekasir is for sure TM material!! The guy is a beast and plays with alot of passion. The thing is that we have many incredible strikers and forwards by our standards. Any other time in the past he would've for sure been a part of TM and maybe even a starter!
He is much better than our former strikers: Khatibi, Enayati, Gholamreza Rezaei and Ali Mousavi who all had many caps for TM. But seeing the many great forwards we have now he has to show himself more at Perspolis and who knows he might take the position of Kaveh Rezaei or Ansarifard. He certaintly has the potential!

Enayati is the PGPL all time scorer. You can't put ALKasir in the same conversation. I would compare him with Mohammad Gholami at best. Let's not make exaggerations

[The]

Where do you guys rank Issa Alekasir in the striker depth list? Do you guys think he is TM material? (What is your opinions about him?)

If Azmoun, Taremi, Rezaei, Ansarifard, Zahedi, Sayyadmanesh, are all inujred, then yes there's is room for him in team Melli alongside Alipour and Motahari.

[Sepehr9]

Enayati is the PGPL all time scorer. You can't put ALKasir in the same conversation. I would compare him with Mohammad Gholami at best. Let's not make exaggerations

Alekasir has way more natural talent than Enayati ever did. Enayati was a very limited player with close to zero football skills, but a keen eye for scoring goals.

Also Alekasir's performance in the Asian Champions League weighs more than all of Enayati's goals combined in the PGPL. What did Enayati ever do in ACL? He did nothing in Asia's most prestige club tournament.

[perspolis#1]

Alekasir can definitely play but I don't see where his attributes are better than our other options. Azmoun is our best aerial threat with Taremi a close second. Taremi is the trickiest. Rezaei is better with link up. Ansarifard even is better at these things with the exception of heading.

That being said, Alekasir would probably be more than enough to win our games in March(if we were not in an emergency situation)

[Ali Doust]

Alekasir has way more natural talent than Enayati ever did. Enayati was a very limited player with close to zero football skills, but a keen eye for scoring goals.

Also Alekasir's performance in the Asian Champions League weighs more than all of Enayati's goals combined in the PGPL. What did Enayati ever do in ACL? He did nothing in Asia's most prestige club tournament.

ISA has done a great job of keeping his physical condition top notch but saying that, he is no young player on the rise and his career wouldn't put him on the same list of players you have mentioned. He is a great journeyman at best and is enjoying his best form at the peak of his physical condition but he does not have the pedigree to be worthy of a TM spot given the fact he is already 30 and has no TM experience.

[Iranianarsenal11]

Where do you guys rank Issa Alekasir in the striker depth list? Do you guys think he is TM material? (What is your opinions about him?)

I really like him. Strong, quick, and very gheyrati!

Only problems are he's getting there in terms of age, and we already have a lot of good strikers ahead of him currently. Plus the suspension hurt his chances.

I hope he can still become a Persepolis legend though.