Friendly: Bosnia and Herzegovina - Iran; Info, Updates and Live Reports (12.11.2020)

[milad_b]

Thanks for sharing bro , I've read it and i think its BS excuse. Apart from sardar , torabi and beiro (2 of them are not that important right now) the rest of them should've been invited. Alireza played against burnley last week so that means he is fit to play. Taremi "work visa" excuse is the funniest and laziest excuse that i've heard.

So there is no covid problem for karim ansarifard (playing in greece) but there is covid problem for Saman Ghoddos ? another BS excuse.

National team always comes first no matter what. It seems that skocic asked for those players but he was faced with those excuses however does not have the courage to force them to join the team. Any excuse other than injury is BS excuse. Bi bokhar pakhme

Btw Thats the wrong link here is the correct one.
https://www.varzesh3.com/news/171822...AF%D9%86%D8%AF

Here is an article on Varzesh3 about why Beiro, ARJ, Sardar, Taremi, Ghoddoos and Torabi were not invited. https://www.varzesh3.com/news/171822...AF%D9%86%D8%AF
Here are the brief points for those of you who don't read Farsi:
Beiro and ARJ: Both have just recovered from injury and after conversations with them Skocic decided not to invite them.
Sardar: He is still recovering from his illness and Skocic has stayed safe here.
Taremi: His work visa in Portugal will run into issues if he travels out of the country and it will require renewal or extension and again Skocic has decided not to invite him and avoid causing issues for him.
Ghoddoos: After talking to him Skocic has decided not to invite him due to the difficulties and risks involved traveling with this COVID-19 surge in Europe.
Torabi: He is recovering from injury.
If these are all credible, Skocic did the right thing to be cautious and he valued their health and future of their club career over friendlies at this point.
I will be watching with excitement to see how Saeid will perform and how our defense will do especially if Pooraliganji starts. I will also look forward to Gholi's magic and Karim, Kaveh and others scoring.
Go TM!

[Navid H]

Thanks for sharing bro , I've read it and i think its BS excuse. Apart from sardar , torabi and beiro (2 of them are not that important right now) the rest of them should've been invited. Alireza played against burnley last week so that means he is fit to play. Taremi "work visa" excuse is the funniest and laziest excuse that i've heard.

So there is no covid problem for karim ansarifard (playing in greece) but there is covid problem for Saman Ghoddos ? another BS excuse.

National team always comes first no matter what. It seems that skocic asked for those players but he was faced with those excuses however does not have the courage to force them to join the team. Any excuse other than injury is BS excuse. Bi bokhar pakhme[/url]

This issue is actually being faced by a lot of teams (Denmark also did not call up their EPL players). There is a chance that JB and Ghoddos would have to quarantine for 14 days upon return. You could also argue it’s beneficial for Taremi and Beiro to stay and fight for a spot as it’s better for TM if they are in form heading into the qualifiers.

The more concerning issue is the seemingly political reasons that Vouria and RR have been cut. It makes absolutely no sense to invite below average scrub Mehdi Shiri over Vouria or RR.

[Iranianarsenal11]

This issue is actually being faced by a lot of teams (Denmark also did not call up their EPL players). There is a chance that JB and Ghoddos would have to quarantine for 14 days upon return. You could also argue it’s beneficial for Taremi and Beiro to stay and fight for a spot as it’s better for TM if they are in form heading into the qualifiers.

The more concerning issue is the seemingly political reasons that Vouria and RR have been cut. It makes absolutely no sense to invite below average scrub Mehdi Shiri over Vouria or RR.

Well said.

[Lorestani]

Dude I am the last mofo in the room with that mentality. I am also realistic about our situation in the group and the odds of us winning these games with the level of a coach we got. We simply don't have time for warm up games where new players are introduced and even if we did, Skocic is not in that level of coaching to make that much impact. Even as experienced coach as Carlos was, it took his ass 3-4 years to build the team that performed superbly at the world cup 2018. Why in the hell would I not be worried with all this nadoonam kaarihayeh federasion baa in entekhaabhayeh bi maena va va va va.... I think you need to wake up buddy. If you think we gonna experience the same thing like qualifying for 2014 world cup where we had to win all last 3 games, it aint happening with this kind of coaching. Team Melli needs results at this point and NOTHING ELSE. Right now is not the time for TRIALS. Simple.

Unfortunately, everything you say reinforces my impression that you have that very doomsday mentality you are denying to have. There is one thing you need to understand: Team Melli is not playing warmup games for you to sit in front of your screen and enjoy your favorite players. That is the most selfish thing I see here on the board. Who the hell do you think you are that you have the audacity to expect the coach to do that? This is not for your entertainment. I could not care less which players are called up as long as the team makes some progress and reaches its goals. Now, maybe Skokic is not a good coach, maybe he is. All I am saying is you cannot judge him by one meaningless game you and your pals were looking forward to watching.

[Ardalan]

Sasan Ansari mikhad che kaar kone? Yani Allahyar nemitonest davat beshe?

[Leicester City]

https://www.skysports.com/football/b...vs-iran/439482

SkySports will broadcast Bosnia and Herzegovina vs Iran match in the UK.

[milad_b]

Not really Bosnia is not on the red list so its not needed for footballers to quarantine 14 day if they travel there. Also even if it was i believe footballers are exempt from this. I dono where you got beiro from cuz i clearly said he is not needed at the moment. And for Taremi , Their next game is on 22nd of november against a shitty team in Taça de Portugal . So as I said BS excuse made by these players (or club). Weak Pakhme Skocic .

Also i don't care what denmark , or afghanistan or any other country is doing or have done! I look at our case. I hate it when people look at other stuff and compare ... like whatever they do is right and we should always follow the "ajnabis". Have some dignity and do what you gotta do.

This issue is actually being faced by a lot of teams (Denmark also did not call up their EPL players). There is a chance that JB and Ghoddos would have to quarantine for 14 days upon return. You could also argue it’s beneficial for Taremi and Beiro to stay and fight for a spot as it’s better for TM if they are in form heading into the qualifiers.

The more concerning issue is the seemingly political reasons that Vouria and RR have been cut. It makes absolutely no sense to invite below average scrub Mehdi Shiri over Vouria or RR.

[PSGman#19]

Not really Bosnia is not on the red list so its not needed for footballers to quarantine 14 day if they travel there. Also even if it was i believe footballers are exempt from this. I dono where you got beiro from cuz i clearly said he is not needed at the moment. And for Taremi , Their next game is on 22nd of november against a shitty team in Taça de Portugal . So as I said BS excuse made by these players (or club). Weak Pakhme Skocic .

Also i don't care what denmark , or afghanistan or any other country is doing or have done! I look at our case. I hate it when people look at other stuff and compare ... like whatever they do is right and we should always follow the "ajnabis". Have some dignity and do what you gotta do.

Quarantine isn't the only reason, they don't want to risk getting covid, or injuries, specially for those struggling for their status in their club.
Champions league come very quickly and are every week.

[Gol Bezan]

Gol Bezan Preview: Iran vs Bosnia & Herzegovina

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ewU...ature=youtu.be

[milad_b]

For me National team comes first...... So If taremi gets fixed does that mean we qualify for world cup or what??

What im sensing from your comment is this : Club >>>>>> National team !

Quarantine isn't the only reason, they don't want to risk getting covid, or injuries, specially for those struggling for their status in their club.
Champions league come very quickly and are every week.

[PSGman#19]

For me National team comes first...... So If taremi gets fixed does that mean we qualify for world cup or what??

What im sensing from your comment is this : Club >>>>>> National team !

Club career > NT friendly

[Bladsville]

Club career > NT friendly

I dont see whats so hard to grasp for some people on here.

The guys who are not included on the Friendly list are ultra-seasoned TM players. They aren't missing out on any substantial gain and will be able to pick up where everyone left off with no issues whatsoever. Skocic is more than likely giving less experienced players vital time on the pitch to help build their confidence. We don't want to be totally screwed in the event of one of the big-dogs getting injured and have to throw someone like Ghaedi in without any solid training.

Chill out people!

[Iranianarsenal11]

I dont see whats so hard to grasp for some people on here.

The guys who are not included on the Friendly list are ultra-seasoned TM players. They aren't missing out on any substantial gain and will be able to pick up where everyone left off with no issues whatsoever. Skocic is more than likely giving less experienced players vital time on the pitch to help build their confidence. We don't want to be totally screwed in the event of one of the big-dogs getting injured and have to throw someone like Ghaedi in without any solid training.

Chill out people!

Well said. Who knows when we will even play WC qualifying matches?? By then, our superstars will be long called up again and performing for us.

[diz]

[Futbaldoost]

I love to see Taremi, Sardar, Beiro, Ghoddoos and ARJ on the pitch against BHG yet I put the long term interest of TM and the players ahead of my personal desire. I understand that many people are upset. These are extraordinary times and I appreciate the fact that Skocic is being cautious. As I said before, that shows his character and real care for our players and the future of TM. As Iranianarsenal11 said above, we don't even know when the Asian qualifying matches will be held in 2021. Also, remember that WC 2022 will be held in November-December timeframe this time rather than regular June-July. Qualifying schedules will still be tight yet there is more time and hopefully COVID-19 pandemic will be under control in the second half of next year.

I recommend that instead of being upset, we generate excitement around Saeid being back, Milad and Moharami shining and even doing great crosses into the box plus Gholi bringing his magic and setting up our forwards to score. I want to see Amir in goal! Come on everyone, let's start sharing your views on starting 11 on Thursday. Here is my take:

--------------------- Abedzadeh----------------------

Moharami---------- Pooraliganji-----------Kanaani----------Milad

-----------------------------Saeid------------------------------

Amiri---------------------Ali Karimi------------------------Gholizadeh

----------------Kaveh----------------Ansarifard----------------


Go TM!