Asian WCQ Final Round Draw: Where to watch, updates, post draw discussion

[Sepehr9]

We typically don’t fare well against physically strong and tall teams. We have historically struggled against Australia, while for whatever reason we have edged South Korea almost in the entire past 10 years. Last they beat us was in 2011 Asian Cup


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In Asia we are the tall physical team. Also, historically struggled against Australia? We've played them 7 times, two draws where TM was the better side in Tehran and Australia was the better side in Melbourne, Iran won three times before that and Australia twice. I don't agree that Iran does not fare well against strong and tall teams, TM is a rather tall and definitely physically strong team.

Besides my point was that South Korea struggles against strong physical teams such as Iran so you just agreed with me in a way.

[Sepehr9]

umm iraqi players always running to the referee to give cards after every foul. i consider that cheating. they did that even with that weak aussie referee in 2015 that sent off stupid pooladi. they did this after every supposed foul in our last game just a couple weeks ago. they throw themselves on the floor after everything.
did u not watch iran vs syria in malaysia?
i have nothing good to say about any of these teams. the good "Arab" teams are in north Africa - Morocco, Egypt, Algeria etc.

I don't think you understand what cheating means. Cheating means bribing refs, changing venues to their advantage, making favorable schedules in order to advance and bribe other teams or referees etc. These are things that Saudi Arabia is a master at, in fact they cheat their way into every world cup where they get shitty results because they suck and have no talent.

Iraq, Syria and Lebanon play wild (vahshi) football, two different things. Besides Iraq, Syria and Lebanon have zero influence in that corrupt football federation named AFC, the Persian Gulf Arab states own AFC where they do their systematic cheating like what we saw with Bahrain a month ago, bad fields against Iraq, Cambodia and Hongkong which would benefit the mighty Bahrani national team, bribed referees and officials, making sure they have home advantage etc.

I don't know how old you are, but Saudi's cheated Iran during the Asian Cup '96 where a 100% goal was disallowed, it was crystal clear that the referees where bribed otherwise Iran would have made it to the final. The nasty Saudi's cheated during the world cup qualifiers of '98 against TM by bribing the referees, again for the world cup qualifiers of 2002 where they bribed their way in finishing first etc. They are the biggest cheaters on this planet. Iran has a better head to head record against any Asian opponent except for the Saudi's and that is not because they are so good otherwise they would not get smashed 8-0 and 5-0 etc at the world cup. They can't cheat during the world cup which is why they get smashed, they are a disgrace. You guys need to stop watching Fox News.

[AM_89]

I don't think you understand what cheating means. Cheating means bribing refs, changing venues to their advantage, making favorable schedules in order to advance and bribe other teams or referees etc. These are things that Saudi Arabia is a master at, in fact they cheat their way into every world cup where they get shitty results because they suck and have no talent.
Iraq, Syria and Lebanon play wild (vahshi) football, two different things. Besides Iraq, Syria and Lebanon have zero influence in that corrupt football federation named AFC, the Persian Gulf Arab states own AFC where they do their systematic cheating like what we saw with Bahrain a month ago, bad fields against Iraq, Cambodia and Hongkong which would benefit the mighty Bahrani national team, bribed referees and officials, making sure they have home advantage etc.
I don't know how old you are, but Saudi's cheated Iran during the Asian Cup '96 where a 100% goal was disallowed, it was crystal clear that the referees where bribed otherwise Iran would have made it to the final. The nasty Saudi's cheated during the world cup qualifiers of '98 against TM by bribing the referees, again for the world cup qualifiers of 2002 where they bribed their way in finishing first etc. They are the biggest cheaters on this planet. Iran has a better head to head record against any Asian opponent except for the Saudi's and that is not because they are so good otherwise they would not get smashed 8-0 and 5-0 etc at the world cup. They can't cheat during the world cup which is why they get smashed, they are a disgrace. You guys need to stop watching Fox News.

No one here will stand up for Saudis. But I guess we see things differently. What happened in 2002 WCQ? We choked against Bahrain and Daei even got a pretty flimsy penalty (I think it was Nikbakht that won it) at Azadi. We lost to Saudis at Azadi fairly under Ali Daei for 2010 WCQ. Plus, all the alleged things you are saying happened so long ago. I didn't watch 1996 so I will take your word for it (even if you are wrong about the other two)

If we talk about recent memory - playing vahshi and running to the referee to predetermine the outcome of the game is cheating to me. Iraq, Bahrain and Syria are pretty dirty when it comes to this. This has affected us recently.

vs. Iraq, for example:
- In the last WCQ, their constant pandering and complaining to the referee after every foul led to a Shojaei red card in first leg and FIVE yellow cards in the second leg. This affects us not having Azmoun in the first match of next round and also players like Taremi etc. cardedd
- That stupid Aussie ref in 2015 Asia Cup had no intention to card Pooladi but the Iraqis constant complaining led to a red card
- They know they only have a chance vs. Iran when we have 10 men

vs. Bahrain
- Flopping led to a penalty in first leg of our recent WCQ
- Venue, schedule change meaning Iran played every game outside Iran and last four in Manama

vs. Syria
- Look at our mudpool match vs. them in Malaysia to see what they were doing.

Do you want us to forget all this??? Fact is, Arabs have a bad history with Iran when it comes to football and we have many examples. Last thought, I honestly don't care for the rivalry against Saudis in politics nor our supposed "friendship" with Syria, Iraq etc. their people hate us as do Saudis b/c of Iran and I am sure history. I am just talking about football alone. I am not saying that Saudis wouldn't cheat more if we actually played them recently. But the other teams cheating are facts. I am sure they are also doing things behind the scene - but we can agree all four of these Arab teams cheat.

[AM_89]

full match of Iran vs. Saudi in that fateful 1996 asian cup

cannot believe Daei missed the penalty, he wasn't even close how many times should have Iran won the Asia Cup? Geez, always mental mistakes

[milad_b]

Ppl talking about teams playing dirty, all teams play dirty when needed ... just see ital yesterday

Mahsa jan Are you from an arab country by any chance?Its like the third time i've seen you standing up for arab countries.


Ps: Please don't take this the wrong way I'm just curious to know.

[M.U.F.C]

The previous round showed to us that nothing will be earned easily and without hard effort. The past successes do not guarantee future successes as well. What we need is hard effort for this round and we must go game by game as well. Best of luck to our beloved Team Melli.

[diz]

[Ardalan]

Akharesh mitonim dar Iran baazi konim ya bayad berim Doha ke VAR darand?

[Gol Bezan]

https://youtu.be/7fnQEIpHJRY

[Mahsaa]

Mahsa jan Are you from an arab country by any chance?Its like the third time i've seen you standing up for arab countries.


Ps: Please don't take this the wrong way I'm just curious to know.

No dear milad im not, i just dont understand why we talk about these things always, there is no excuse in this round, no grasroling no time wasting nothing, Iran has to be qualified after the first 5-6-7 games,m in this group.

[oracle]

Akharesh mitonim dar Iran baazi konim ya bayad berim Doha ke VAR darand?

Late july will have answer to these quations which i also interated to know.
I rather play in qatar with var then play in empty azadi with no war.

[perspolis#1]

Ppl talking about teams playing dirty, all teams play dirty when needed ... just see ital yesterday

I respectfully disagree. What other countries do stuff like this. Roohesh shad only Alesafar personified these Arabs correctly.

[Sepehr9]

full match of Iran vs. Saudi in that fateful 1996 asian cup

cannot believe Daei missed the penalty, he wasn't even close how many times should have Iran won the Asia Cup? Geez, always mental mistakes

Maybe you should focus on Azizi's goal being unfairly disallowed, your fair Saudi's clearly bribed the referee to book a place in the final. Regarding your previous post about it being too along ago bla bla, Saudi's continue to cheat their way to the world cup. We don't notice their cheating ways because we haven't played them for over a decade. They cheat in every way they can, through AFC, bribing, foul play etc

It's funny how according to some here the Saudi's should be in the running for the fifa fair play award lol. Then again when you have Iranians getting paid by the Saudi's to spread misinformation and propaganda against their own country through media outlets such as "Iran International" we shouldn't expect much. Not saying that members here get paid by the Saudi's but how the Saudi propaganda works in influencing peoples views.

[Babak agha]

Some are placed in the group of Death, We are placed in the group of Hezbollah

[Nokhodi]

Maybe you should focus on Azizi's goal being unfairly disallowed, your fair Saudi's clearly bribed the referee to book a place in the final. Regarding your previous post about it being too along ago bla bla, Saudi's continue to cheat their way to the world cup. We don't notice their cheating ways because we haven't played them for over a decade. They cheat in every way they can, through AFC, bribing, foul play etc
It's funny how according to some here the Saudi's should be in the running for the fifa fair play award lol. Then again when you have Iranians getting paid by the Saudi's to spread misinformation and propaganda against their own country through media outlets such as "Iran International" we shouldn't expect much. Not saying that members here get paid by the Saudi's but how the Saudi propaganda works in influencing peoples views.

I think the point they were trying to make is that Saudi works behind the scenes for their dirty football - whereas teams like Bahrain, Qatar, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon... play dirty on the field.