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"This is a totalitarian system whose presence people feel in their blood and in their flesh on a daily basis. And it’s one that does not grant freedoms of any kind, or accommodate people’s demands in any way. What is increasingly clear is that there is clear demand for change in the regime. What the people want is regime change, and no return to the past. There is a very real possibility of regime change." - Nasrin Sotoudeh -
He should've gone to Spain in the first place. The stubborness of these iranians that want to shine in PL is truly something else. Our players dont adapt because you physically have to be this goorekhar type of player. The only one that have the physical traits to shine in PL is Allahyar. The rest of them are weak.
At least when they wanna shine in the most physical league in the world, start to lift weights with wrestlers or something!Comment
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It’s not a physical issue. For goodness sake we are some of the strongest people on earth considering our Olympic record.
It’s the style of football we play and our attitudes. Side issues like having an agent constantly apply pressure also helps.
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This is true. We are generally very girthy people and have good "zoor".Originally posted by Nokhodi View Post"This is a totalitarian system whose presence people feel in their blood and in their flesh on a daily basis. And it’s one that does not grant freedoms of any kind, or accommodate people’s demands in any way. What is increasingly clear is that there is clear demand for change in the regime. What the people want is regime change, and no return to the past. There is a very real possibility of regime change." - Nasrin SotoudehComment
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Gone to Huesca? Have you watched them play football. Plus I think Saman has shone in his limited game time for Brentford this season that he can play in the Premier League.Originally posted by AGC View PostComment
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Lol having high ambitions to play in the best league (by FAR) in the world is not a bad trait. Also, I don't think our players are physically weak, Taremi, Azmoun, Ghoddos, etc are all very strong actually. It is the style of play that we seem not to adapt to, I think the best chance we had in the EPL was still Teymourian, his hustle made him effective in the league. Our players grow up with a "goal koochik" style of play, which is better suited for Spain / Italy, but it doesn't mean they can't adapt.Originally posted by AGC View Post
I encourage our players to keep aiming for the EPL, you never know, once might click.--------------------------Beiranvand-------------------
--Moharrami----Hosseini--Kanaani----Amiri--
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Dejagah did really well his last season before shipping off to Arab leagues. I remember watching him that season and he was one of Fulham's best (if not the best) player that seasonOriginally posted by AGC View PostComment
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When he joined Brentford he never had the chance to pick la liga/Spanish club as his next destination instead lol.Originally posted by AGC View Post
He was joining from a crappy side in the SECOND division of france where he had been banned for 6(!) months and was out of shape and form.
Brentford actually took. A chance on him, fixed his fitness, gave him well over 1000 mins in the championship, changed his position to one more useful to TM, and then gave him the platform to show himself vs the best in the PL.
And frankly, he hasn’t looked out of place in this league either to say he doesn’t fit the style or can’t hack it physically. Rather franks system is just limiting and his failure to get more ur of guys like ghoddos is the reason he has lost 7 in a row.
But brentford was certainly a very positive move in samans career, there can be no doubt about that. If he can find a better situation he should take it but right now he is showing himself to be at the level of a solid PL player. Don’t recall a single bad performance besides that one cup game a few months back. Off the bench he’s been impactful, in his few starts he has been either very good or solid, he actually has the most assists out of anybody in the team, and is creating a very high avg of chances/90. If it wasn’t for ricos crappy 1v1 attempt he would have had another great assist to add to that collection, vs the best team in europe no lessComment
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I second the notion that Saman would thrive in La Liga. It’s quite simple. It’s the style of play.
Most of our players are just not compatible with EPL style of play. The prioritize a bunch of workhourses running over the pitch.
You can still handle EPL opposition, but not be compatible to their style. As Saman has, even when he was in Sweden against Arsenal…Comment
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Seriously are you guys going to argue that iranians footballers är in good shape? Theyre not!.
For asian standards yes! Internationally No!
Azmoun is in terrible shape, our team before CQ needed Magath style regiment because we always collapsed in 60-70 mimutes late in games.
Yes overall we have gotten better fitness Wise but the only true fit players are Taremi and Allahyar. Someone like Azmoun would maybe shine in Pl but then again he is one of the worlds most skilled strikers. The levels to hos talent are event underrated by iranians. But then again he is not so dumb that ge commit carreer suicide by joining gorgha, zamboorha or some other mediocre pl team that never manages shit but is overrated.
We are seriously misguided of we conflate iranians wrestlers and our wrestling culture with lazy footballers. Its not a matter of DNAComment
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Yes i agree that Saman didnt have much of a choice and it is a truth that he did a good choice by moving to brentford. I can even go so far to Day that trying a season to see if it works out is reasonable.
The issue is that fitness levels is just the tip of the ice berg.
The teams that buy players are unforgiving, the competition is unforgiving and their fans, many of Them, have the mentality and intelligence of animals.
Key issue here is that casuals conflate competetiveness with success, skills and results. Having players fight to death for a starting spot can harm as often as it can benefit teams and players. See it is one of these irrational rationality issues to paraphrase critical theorists.Comment
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Some harmful effects of competition: they kill your form by starting and benching you more often than you change underwear.
They kill players confidence by not allowing Them to commit even slightest of mistakes.
The mentality of hardcoreness and their amounts of money makes you replaceable to easily and you always become scapegoat IF the team is not performing. To mention an example Potter is god and it is players fault when he loses, Alex Ferguson, who is a legend, was never wrong, it was Roy Keane that made that one bad pass mentality.Comment
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And No its not by FAR the best leagues in the worlds. It is one of the best leagues in the world. And its the most competitive One, as ive argued its so much competition its to a fault.Comment
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Great point, but lets not forget that Dejagah come up through the German system. Just as Saman came up through the Swedish system.Originally posted by Altamonte View Post
I would agree with the assessment that Saman is doing well, albeit has only been given limited playing time. Not his fault, the squad isn't well set-up for a player like him.
There might be something to Karimi 8's theory that our players are better suited to Spain/Italy due to their "goal koochik" upbringings in many cases.Comment
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