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Originally posted by PSGman#19 View PostThis competition is pretty useless, no? No qualification for Olympic or any U world cup, no scouts?
No it's not useless.
It's not Olympic qualification but "AFC U-23 Asian Cup".
This tournament is held every two years. The Olympic year tournaments, such in 2016 and 2020, 2024 are doubled as the Olympic's AFC qualifiers, & 2022 is Afc U23 Asian cup.
It's very important to prepare and engage ourU20 & U23 players in competitive tournament and learn to win.
We like it or not this is our futureTM and everything about is important not useless.
When Mkia was hired as a U23 coach he was told byIFF this project is 10 year plan to recycle TM .
I don't know if Mkia is the right coach /Managerfor that but he has given change & challenge.
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Originally posted by St_Mark View Post.
No it's not useless.
It's not Olympic qualification but "AFC U-23 Asian Cup".
This tournament is held every two years. The Olympic year tournaments, such in 2016 and 2020, 2024 are doubled as the Olympic's AFC qualifiers, & 2022 is Afc U23 Asian cup.
It's very important to prepare and engage ourU20 & U23 players in competitive tournament and learn to win.
We like it or not this is our futureTM and everything about is important not useless.
When Mkia was hired as a U23 coach he was told byIFF this project is 10 year plan to recycle TM .
I don't know if Mkia is the right coach /Managerfor that but he has given change & challenge.
We have seen many U23 teams or u23 players do wonders and have an average career.
Btw, does the previous Olympics help players from countries like Iran to get a good transfer after? I feel nobody care about football in Olympics anymore
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Originally posted by PSGman#19 View PostGenerally only 3-4 u23 teams (or let's say a little bit more, even in other countries ) become TM regular. If they is no qualification for any international competition and no Euro scouts, the results in the competition are not so important and we can use it as a preparation.
We have seen many U23 teams or u23 players do wonders and have an average career.
Btw, does the previous Olympics help players from countries like Iran to get a good transfer after? I feel nobody care about football in Olympics anymore
1- Iran has not qualified for Olympic for decades hence no exposure for Iran, But one can argue it helped Japan, Korea in the past
2- These process and tournaments are not all about Transfer of players that's only residual benefit of it.
3- Process of entering such important tournaments will help generation( class) of players in that age group in various aspects. Some benefits are obvious and immediate others are indirect.
Class of U16 players that qualified for Asian U16 championship and advanced to WC17 is a good example of success of such events.
Most of the same players are currently in U23 squad and some will make it to Tm hopefully. Sayadmanesh & Delfi got exposure because of that too.
Because of Corona 2020-2021 Asian U16-U19 was cancelled and we have seen the terrible consequence in Iran for that age group.
For 2020-21 we currently don't have U17-u!9 teams nor Coaches for them as a result no training, no developments as before. Those tournaments are very useful and aspiring for younger players and often a window of opportunity for success.
To argue there is no benefit from these games is a defeated argument.
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Its very shortsighted to say youth competitions are meaningless if there is no euro scouts to play for.
If you want to build a strong national football program you have to address not qualifying for an olympics in half a century.
We need to develop a culture of respect and importance for our youth national teams. Of the current TM everybody except amiri, Taremi, Ghoddos, maybe Abedz played for a national youth age group, or multiple.
Building this culture means when there is a youth world cup we qualify for it with ease and perform well, and many scouts naturally come to our matches and take our best players because they recognize that we are regular producers of strong young talent and not just random instances of qualification, few good players.
And that means taking seriously tournaments like these, and starting the hard process of building a team with required chemistry to properly trouble top youth teams in the world. You think TM youth side can go from nothing to beating worlds best over night? No, it would be typical disaster we experienced before.
Rare success of Chamanian side was result of multiple years work and preparation, having players together for long time and building a clear identity of play.
If Peirovani side had the same before u20 WC then Ghayedi, Shekari, Noorafkan, Aghasi , Derakhshanmehr may be playing for solid euro clubs now and already important TM players.
Time to take these things seriously if we want to really advance as a footballing nation, not look solely at legionairre presence as definition of success. As St Mark mentions, if you build a reputable strong program that will come and be much more regular, quality transfers than what we currently see for our young players.
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Originally posted by inarsenewetrust View PostIt....
Rare success of Chamanian side was result of multiple years work and preparation, having players together for long time and building a clear identity of play.
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Dear
Speaking of Chamanian:
From today's news
He is in charge of youth program at Golgohar . Recent recruits of Zare, Sasan Hosseini, Nokhodkar,....has something to do with him.
He also recruited Erfan Javi last year for u17.
گامی که گل گهر برای تغییر برداشت
باشگاه گل گهر سیرجان با تغییرات در مدیریت و هیئت مدیره ، بدنبال تغییرات اساسی در باشگاه بخصوص در بخش فوتبال است .
به گزارش ورزش سه ، تغییرات در اکادمی فوتبال و تیم های پایه با حضور عباس چمنیان استارت خورد . حضور مربی با دانش که تجربه حضور در تیم های ملی پایه ایران و همچنین جام جهانی نوجوانان را دارد ، رویکرد مثبت و رو به جلو برای این باشگاه به حساب می آید .تغییرات در تیم های پایه ، تست از حدود ٤٠٠٠ بازیکن مستعد در بأزه های زمانی متعدد و سازماندهی مجدد تیم های پایه را می توان از اساسی ترین عملکرد های عباس چمنیان دانست .
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Although U23 training has not started most of candidates are practicing with their teams , that is very helpful .
Esteghlal had game today , Azadi, , Rezaei , Rabet , Khaghani played . both Azadi & Sadeghi scored. sadeghi was not listed as starter ( entered 72').
تیم آبی:
سید حسین حسینی، متین کریم زاده، وریا غفوری، سیاوش یزدانی، آرش رضاوند، فردین رابط، عارف آقاسی، زبیر نیک نفس، امین قاسمی نژاد، آرمان رمضانی و بابک مرادی.
تیم سفید:
علیرضا رضایی، سینا خادمپور، محمد حسین مرادمند، مهدی مهدی پور، محمد دانشگر، محمدرضا آزادی، احمد موسوی، سبحان خاقانی، سعید مهری، ارسلان مطهری و جعفر سلمانی.
Last edited by St_Mark; 09-30-2021, 12:09 PM.
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Originally posted by St_Mark View Post.
Dear
Speaking of Chamanian:
From today's news
He is in charge of youth program at Golgohar . Recent recruits of Zare, Sasan Hosseini, Nokhodkar,....has something to do with him.
He also recruited Erfan Javi last year for u17.
گامی که گل گهر برای تغییر برداشت
باشگاه گل گهر سیرجان با تغییرات در مدیریت و هیئت مدیره ، بدنبال تغییرات اساسی در باشگاه بخصوص در بخش فوتبال است .
به گزارش ورزش سه ، تغییرات در اکادمی فوتبال و تیم های پایه با حضور عباس چمنیان استارت خورد . حضور مربی با دانش که تجربه حضور در تیم های ملی پایه ایران و همچنین جام جهانی نوجوانان را دارد ، رویکرد مثبت و رو به جلو برای این باشگاه به حساب می آید .تغییرات در تیم های پایه ، تست از حدود ٤٠٠٠ بازیکن مستعد در بأزه های زمانی متعدد و سازماندهی مجدد تیم های پایه را می توان از اساسی ترین عملکرد های عباس چمنیان دانست .
here is promotional video, the quality of the production may indicate their intent.
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BILD: How do you see the opportunities?
Mahdavikia: "I think we have a good chance of achieving our big goal."
BILD: What are the first measures?
Mahdavikia: "We aretesting currently 60 talents from whom we will put together a 23-man squad."
BILD: Time is of the essence...
Mahdavikia: "That's right. Qualifying matches for the Asian Championship are coming up soon. The opponents are Nepal, Lebanon, Tajikistan."
BILD: But on the way to the Olympics, completely different calibers are waiting, right?
Mahdavikia: "Yes. The big associations in Asia such as Japan, South Korea or Australia. And only three teams will qualify for Paris. But I'm not afraid. We have very good players with us and will work hard for our goal."
BILD: You have reinforcements from Europe with you...
Mahdavikia: "My assistant coach is John Lammers, the uncle of Frankfurt striker Sam. Timo Rosenberg (St. Pauli/Hannover, editor's note) will be there as an athletics coach."
BILD: And what does your future work at HSV look like?
Mahdavikia: "When I'm in Hamburg, I will continue to be on the pitch as an individual coach for the youth."
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Group "B":
IRAN, TAJIKISTAN, LEBANON , NEPAL
DUSHANBE
matchday 1
25 october (monday)
16:00 – Iran – Nepal
19:00 – TAJIKISTAN – Lebanon
matchday 2
28 october (thursday)
16:00 – Lebanon – Iran
19:00 – Nepal – TAJIKISTAN
matchday 3
31 october (sunday)
16:00 – Lebanon – Nepal
19:00 IRAN – TAJIKISTAN
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Daler Azizov - Aziz Baev - Shrouh - Alijoon - Samiev - Ehsan
Mumin - Naimjoon - Yadgarov - Hossein khormatov - Tilo Saeidov
In preparation for the qualifying tournament of the Asian Cup-2022
Test match
8 october (friday)
Shabab Al Ahly Dubai (U-23) – TAJIKISTAN (U-23)
Dubai, UAE
Friendly match
11 october (monday)
Vietnam (U-23) – TAJIKISTAN (U-23)
Dubai, UAELast edited by St_Mark; 10-01-2021, 05:36 PM.
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