World Cup 2022 Qualifier: Lebanon - Iran; Updates, Pic, Vid & Live streams (11.11.21)

[milad_b]

I just ask you one question:

Azmoun is clearly unhappy with Skocic as well. If he, Ghoddos or the other players criticise him, should they be excluded too?

I'm asking more in relation to the long term and disruption before the WC.

I suppose what you see as tactical masterstrokes, can be interpreted a little differently by others, particularly given the events before the second goal.

I got a question from you? Did any players decide those changes?

Also Azmoun is unhappy with skocic? how did you manage to get that? Cuz i've heard him talk about skocic nicely! He also hugged himout after the game!

Please show me where he said he is unhappy with skocic!

Also i forgot to mention that skocic also changed gholizadeh's position from right to left which again it was a big game changer! He also subed out jahanbakhsh which wasn;t playing good at the end of the game. Took sayyadmanesh to that side to fill his position.


its simple ! players must respect the coach and team melli staff! When a player like taremi disrespect team melli staff in his interview by saying that it was all players who did the job and not team melli staf deserves to be crossed out! I think after that interview he should've been benched because that was very disrespectfull towards skocic, vahid hashemian and karim bagheri . if

[Nokhodi]

It was bad by Skocic. Even more embarrassing that your own player is directing what needs to be done and telling you what to do.
Tot seems calmer at least, I feel more confident having him in charge

Dr. Strangemoosh, I hate to go back to CQ, but did you praise CQ for his passion whenever he got red carded or provoked something against the opponents or refs on the bench?

[St_Mark]

It was bad by Skocic. Even more embarrassing that your own player is directing what needs to be done and telling you what to do.

Tot seems calmer at least, I feel more confident having him in charge

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Skocic has never experienced like past 10 days.
Decision to exclude Taremi and horror result of TM at min 90 losing got to him.
It was not a surprised to me . What surprized me was his infamous interview.
For a coach of his calibre while still at the job and his team in peruse of qualification it's highly unappropriated & untimely to criticise Iranian players even if sugar code his words .He is entitle to his opinion but that part of his interview is more suited for when he is no longer Iranian coach or writing his memoir.

Regardless of results of this or next game, I think he won't survive TM Job.
Just like peoples, coaches are good until they are not

[DR Strangemoosh]

Dr. Strangemoosh, I hate to go back to CQ, but did you praise CQ for his passion whenever he got red carded or provoked something against the opponents or refs on the bench?

I'm not talking about the actions themselves that both Skocic and CQ did - yes both show passion and both can be interpreted as right or wrong. None of my comments are relating to that per se. I did criticise Queiroz for his erratic aspects, though of course I enjoyed his arm of God against Korea.
I'm talking specifically about the relationship of the players with the coach.

Queiroz was a father figure for a lot of our stars. In interviews, Azmoun, Jahanbakhsh, Beiranvand, Taremi and others have explicitly credited the current TM resutls to him. This is the esteem which he held for them. This is what they felt for him on the pitch.

Now rightly or wrongly, Skocic doesn't have that esteem with the team. I hope that I'm wrong. But seeing the body language of the players and their comments in interviews suggests otherwise.

I think it is important that the coach has the trust of the players. This is what made TM play better than the sum of its parts in 2014 - they played their heart out.

Beyond that, I'm not entirely sure I disagree with many of the other comments made. It's just a matter of perspective. Some would say that he should have made a tactical change sooner rather than waiting so long to take out Ghoddos when we are 1-0 down against Lebanon, and the final winner happened despite his late tactics. And that the shape of Iran was so bad during this game that it was embarrassing.

No one can doubt Skocic's results though, they have been fantastic. He is really perfect for the IFF (see Azmoun's latest IG post) so anything which happens, I imagine he will get support. I just don't want to see a situation in three games time when we are without a few key players.

[Omids]

Everybody praising Amiri now, but when he Got moved up to the midfield and Milad took his spot, everybody was critisizing Skocic and the tactic. Atleast be consistent guys

When was he play back to start with?

[sam20]

WOW What a game! Can't believe we pulled it off so late!

Excellent Finish from Azmoun and another clutch goal from Nourollahi out of nowhere!

The stream i was watching through had poor quality so i couldn't tell exactly how Ghoddos was playing but he didn't seem to do anything special and i only noticed a huge mistake of his with not sending one of our players through on goal during a coutner and lost it instead. Then again I wont' use that one scene to judge him.

However, our play seemed to improve big time RIGHT after ghoddos came off lol - we were much more dangerous going forward and actually started creating even better chances!

Again, i like ghoddos and he's a good player, but Skocic is showing us time and time again that he's making the right decisions for lineups and the right changes when his lineup isn't working! That's the key.

[AminGP]

If Iran wins their next game and Lebanon loses to Korea then we would need a single point from the remaining 4 matches to secure out spot.

[DR Strangemoosh]

If Iran wins their next game and Lebanon loses to Korea then we would need a single point from the remaining 4 matches to secure out spot.

Iran should win every game to get a chance of slotting into Pot 2.

Already in the ELO we are in the top 20 https://www.eloratings.net/

Now if we get into top 20 for FIFA there is a very good chance of being in Pot 2 for the next world cup.

[Nokhodi]

I'm not talking about the actions themselves that both Skocic and CQ did - yes both show passion and both can be interpreted as right or wrong. None of my comments are relating to that per se. I did criticise Queiroz for his erratic aspects, though of course I enjoyed his arm of God against Korea.
I'm talking specifically about the relationship of the players with the coach.
Queiroz was a father figure for a lot of our stars. In interviews, Azmoun, Jahanbakhsh, Beiranvand, Taremi and others have explicitly credited the current TM resutls to him. This is the esteem which he held for them. This is what they felt for him on the pitch.
Now rightly or wrongly, Skocic doesn't have that esteem with the team. I hope that I'm wrong. But seeing the body language of the players and their comments in interviews suggests otherwise.
I think it is important that the coach has the trust of the players. This is what made TM play better than the sum of its parts in 2014 - they played their heart out.
Beyond that, I'm not entirely sure I disagree with many of the other comments made. It's just a matter of perspective. Some would say that he should have made a tactical change sooner rather than waiting so long to take out Ghoddos when we are 1-0 down against Lebanon, and the final winner happened despite his late tactics. And that the shape of Iran was so bad during this game that it was embarrassing.

Issue isn't with the coach, its with the federation.
Player's Instagram posts have made this clear.
https://www.tarafdari.com/node/2026952

[DR Strangemoosh]

Issue isn't with the coach, its with the federation.
Player's Instagram posts have made this clear.
https://www.tarafdari.com/node/2026952

But what if they see the coach as a YES man for the federation...?

[Nokhodi]

But what if they see the coach as a YES man for the federation...?

I don't think they blame him for that.
They'd rather someone like Skocic, than a bum like Wilmots who literally wouldn't even prepare a line-up.

[DR Strangemoosh]

I don't think they blame him for that.
They'd rather someone like Skocic, than a bum like Wilmots who literally wouldn't even prepare a line-up.

Yes, that isn't in doubt at least....

[St_Mark]

Issue isn't with the coach, its with the federation.
Player's Instagram posts have made this clear.
https://www.tarafdari.com/node/2026952

Taremi criticise IFF and Azizi Khadem in a meeting with Players an TM coach

I posted picture of Taremi face off month ago
Taremi was criticising TM preparation all aspect of that compare to past .

[DR Strangemoosh]

I mean if you don't want to see it then I can't change your mind but I suggest you look at his tactical change and substitutes!

Hi subbed out Ghoddos which was playing really bad for milad mohammadi. Moved vahid amiri from LB to MD. This was a huge tactical change that got us the win.

Another important move by skocic was to sub out ezzatollahi who was also not playing great for Sayyadmanesh and keeping Ahmad Noor in the game that again got us the winner.

These 2 changes totally changed the tempo of the game and it was a great tactical change! If people still fail to see that then they might aswell start watching coocking shows instead of football

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By the way, I don't think anyone here is necessarily criticising the subs that Skocic made.

Sure, he made the right sub changes. He has got good results for TM and his sub choices are more often than not, very good. No one is doubting that and it isn't the issue(s) being raised...

[milad_b]

Lol looks like branko is resigning from oman

they are down by 1 goal