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World Cup 2022 Qualifier: Lebanon - Iran; Updates, Pic, Vid & Live streams (11.11.21)
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Originally posted by mahestan View PostStretcher score count:
Lebanon 6 - Iran 0--------------------------Beiranvand-------------------
--Moharrami----Hosseini--Kanaani----Amiri--
------------------Ezatolahi-----Ebrahimi--------------
--Jahanbaksh---------Ghoddos------------Taremi--
---------------------------Azmoun----------------------
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These Arab teams are not a good preparation for the WC. This can't be seen as football anymore but Lebanon used the same dirty tricks when we lost to them back in 2013. There is no team that is worse at timewasting than Lebanon. Not even Syria are that pathetic. I remember during the WCQ 2014 when Iran beat Lebanon 4-0 at home and even though Lebanon was already out they grassrolled before our first goal. From that day on, I knew that there is no team more pathetic than the Lebanese national team. That's why I really enjoyed how Soony Saad was pissed at the end. He didn't know what to say anymore, so that's why he did a pathetic statement like that. I love it
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Originally posted by DR Strangemoosh View PostBy the way, I don't think anyone here is necessarily criticising the subs that Skocic made.
Sure, he made the right sub changes. He has got good results for TM and his sub choices are more often than not, very good. No one is doubting that and it isn't the issue(s) being raised...
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Originally posted by Farzadfarhangni View PostBoy, we have a short memory!!!! I would guess 70% of the posts here are criticizing sub choices. 29% is that our team has no identity. 1% is other stuff.
And it's not about just the one game but building the foundations.
This was the whole thrust of why most people respected Queiroz so much, it was that he was thinking about the future and the changes he made sometimes didn't pay dividends at the time but did so later. People criticised him when he called up Taremi and played him over Ansarifard. So many decisions he made (dropping Rahmati, bringing forward Gholizadeh, giving Milad a chance) were risky at the time but were part of planning for the future.
The players developed IN TM as a result, and credit him for their improvement. He took risks with players, and over time we saw a lot of decisions he made earlier (though not all) vindicated. Under Skocic the player I have seen develop is Sarlak, but I haven't seen any other over what is now a decent number of games at 11.
The team structure is worse than it was before. His subs have been good but ultimately:
A) Does he have the balls to stand up against IFF and against external forces on behalf of TM?
B) What will he do when players continue their subtle snipes at him. Can he exclude more star players coming into a world cup?
C) Is he building an infrastructure for the future, even at the risk of the immediate?
D) Will the players play beyond the some of their parts for him, and be unified in the way we saw for the first time ever with our penultimate coach?
It's important to be asking these questions - Building a national team can take years, can take decades when in the context of being a pariah country. But we have enough talent to be making the next step now and for that we need to be thinking about tomorrow, not just today.
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Originally posted by Hosseini View PostThe grassrolling was so egregious I was baffled he didn't atleast *try to act* like he was going to do anything about it, even added way less time than should of? It was embarrassing as hell for an international referee to do. Really poorly managed and he is supposed to be one of AFC's top officials - no joke
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Anybody has highlights with Arabic commentary?!!Sign this petition to show opposition to US/UK support for the Rajavi/MKO cult
https://chng.it/ZsSzczNC2Z
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Originally posted by DR Strangemoosh View PostI just think the biggest issue is that we after Skocic heroically rescuing things after Wiltits, now we are all really hoping to see a good performance in the World Cup and the efforts of the last decade finally bearing fruit.
And it's not about just the one game but building the foundations.
This was the whole thrust of why most people respected Queiroz so much, it was that he was thinking about the future and the changes he made sometimes didn't pay dividends at the time but did so later. People criticised him when he called up Taremi and played him over Ansarifard. So many decisions he made (dropping Rahmati, bringing forward Gholizadeh, giving Milad a chance) were risky at the time but were part of planning for the future.
The players developed IN TM as a result, and credit him for their improvement. He took risks with players, and over time we saw a lot of decisions he made earlier (though not all) vindicated. Under Skocic the player I have seen develop is Sarlak, but I haven't seen any other over what is now a decent number of games at 11.
The team structure is worse than it was before. His subs have been good but ultimately:
A) Does he have the balls to stand up against IFF and against external forces on behalf of TM?
B) What will he do when players continue their subtle snipes at him. Can he exclude more star players coming into a world cup?
C) Is he building an infrastructure for the future, even at the risk of the immediate?
D) Will the players play beyond the some of their parts for him, and be unified in the way we saw for the first time ever with our penultimate coach?
It's important to be asking these questions - Building a national team can take years, can take decades when in the context of being a pariah country. But we have enough talent to be making the next step now and for that we need to be thinking about tomorrow, not just today.
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I don't respect Lebanon's performance at all but I don't get why you guys are upset with Soony's stance.
I felt exactly the same as him when Msssi scored against Iran and the Argie fans in front of me turned round for the first time in 90 minutes (they had been quiet as a funeral until then) and went crazy in my face like they had beaten Brazil for 5 long mins.
So I kind of empathise with this Yank
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Originally posted by koorosh View PostThere was not much chemistry between him and the rest of the team and that was pretty clear. Needs time to fit in
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Originally posted by DR Strangemoosh View PostI don't respect Lebanon's performance at all but I don't get why you guys are upset with Soony's stance.
I felt exactly the same as him when Msssi scored against Iran and the Argie fans in front of me turned round for the first time in 90 minutes (they had been quiet as a funeral until then) and went crazy in my face like they had beaten Brazil for 5 long mins.
So I kind of empathise with this Yank
In football and life, you can win by cheating. But don't be sore when you lose after cheating.
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Originally posted by koorosh View PostAnyone knows what happened with Saman? Was sulking on the other side of the field after being substituted?
There was not much chemistry between him and the rest of the team and that was pretty clear. Needs time to fit in
Some of the fans here have requested permanent removal of Jahanbakhsh following by a good performance and he is the first name on their sheets. Same with Amiri, Gholizadeh, Moharami, Azmoun, etc etc... It is getting so bad with some fans on this board change their minds intra game.
Ghoddos was being too hard on himself. He'll relax later and will hopefully get another start or 30 minutes against Syria and will redeem himself.
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