Breaking News: TM List for Lebanon and Syria announced (11/2022) *TAREMI DROPPED*

[kami_kakashi]

This is just ridiculous, I think all TM players on Twitter and Instagram should repeat what Taremi said. Let’s see if this 3rd rate coach will get rid of all of them then. This was not a disrespectful thing to say at all.

[kami_kakashi]

I am not sure why the coach feels like it is a good thing to make such a generic statement about Iranian players? What are you trying to achieve there? I hope once he is gone, all of our TM players make generic references about Croatian coaches in interviews just to see how he likes it when tables are turned!

[oracle]

This is just ridiculous, I think all TM players on Twitter and Instagram should repeat what Taremi said. Let’s see if this 3rd rate coach will get rid of all of them then. This was not a disrespectful thing to say at all.

we are almost guranteee wcq
so YES HE WOULD
AND THIS BEOUR LINE UP

seyed hossin hosini
moradmand
faraji
mehdi shiri
saeed aghaie
salmani
ali karimi
ehsan pahlavan
omid alishah
peyman babaie
al kasir

guess what
we still will beat lebnon 2 times
and syria THATS = to 19 pt
easy qualification to qatar
we might even get couple ties at tehran with uae
and iraq and lose to s.k
since results can be achieved with really any players at thus junction
if players start messing with him they all be crossed off .
You guys are too young to remeber
DEHDARI IN THE 80S
he single handily destroyed our tm with same
tactic.

[OFFSIDE_1]

Couple of different factors:
- Mehdi wasn't familiar enough with the high caliber of coaching as he is now while Wilmots was in charge. He had just moved to Portugal when Wilmots started with Iran. Now that he is training at champions league level, he can more clearly see the difference between micky-mouse coaching and proper coaching.
- Maybe after his experience with Wilmots he felt like he need to nip things in the butt since staying silent during wilmots almost got us eliminated.
- As far as I know, Wilmots never "put down" down Iranian league/players, so there was never a reason to "call him out".
With all that said, there's a different possibility. Mehdi was taking shots at the federation with his comment, and the federation pressured Skocic to not invite him. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

if I remember correctly, doesn't Taremi have this cozy relationship with IFF and the folks on the top ? I do recall he even had some nice things to say about IR

[somebuffguy]

Imagine the scenes: We barely qualify for the world cup by the skins of our teeth. Skocic has now taken over IR and is now supreme leader of Iran. Chelo kabob mandates force citizens to eat kabob twice a week in respects to supreme leader Skocic.

Taremi has been dropped and is playing for the Qatari NT alongside former legend Ramin Rezaeian, who has changed his name to Ramiz Al-Rezaeian Abu Haydar to Qatarize it.

Iran's first match is against France and you click on gol bezan's tweet to see this is the lineup Dragan has agreed to go with:

--------------------Lak----------------

Sadegh---Khanzadeh---Cheshmi----Hajsafi

-------------------Sarlak---------------------

---------Shojaei---------------Amiri---------

------Abdi----------Alekasir----------Torabi

Congratulations! Your post won the scariest halloween costume contest. Remarkable imagination.

[somebuffguy]

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if I remember correctly, doesn't Taremi have this cozy relationship with IFF and the folks on the top ? I do recall he even had some nice things to say about IR

He's a 25 year old whose lived in the system of IR his whole life. Do you expect him to know any better? What can you possibly learn when you hear "marg bar amrika" your whole life?

[dash_sina]

This is absurd, how can the coach drop our arguably best and in form player!? Taremi is an essential part of Iran's offence and has the experience to play verse stronger opponents.

This coach won 9 games in a row verse teams that are inferior to us, that is not a feat to be proud of.

The Azmoun Tarami and Jahanbakhsh triangle is lethal against any teams, something which was missing for CQ in previous WC, and to take off Tarami is like removing a structural beam, the house is going to crash.

[ABalls]

GOOD FOR TEAM MELLI AND GOOD FOR SKOCIC.

No one is above the team and it's direction. Taremi cannot be an exception. We win as a team, we lose as a team. None of his bull blame game, elitist attitude shenanigans anymore.

[Afat11]

We need a higher caliber coach than Skocic if we qualify for the world cup. Anyone who foresees us playing against real quality teams in the world with Skocic at the helm with the "tactics" we've been using in his games thus far, we're going to be in massive trouble. The guy isn't terrible by Asian standards, pretty decent for Asia actually, but I am still not convinced he has a clear tactic for TM. He's not clueless like Wilmots, but I see a lot of Branko in him. Inheriting a golden generation, looking decent against Asian competition, but being out of their depth against better teams. I don't see us beating a team like Mexico with Skocic as we didn't under Branko, since I just don't see what tactic we'd use against them from the games he's managed thus far. CQ had us defending against Maldives, and that pissed off many. But he instilled a clear tactic and identity for TM anticipating that at the big show WC's 2014 and 2018, the team would need to be organized and well-drilled on defense to survive our often more talented opposition. Anyone who wants us to play open, offensive football against the likes of France, Spain, etc., you are living in la la land. We're 30 years behind them, and that's considering if their players stopped developing for 30 years. Their talent and infrastructure is just beyond ours. We have to have an alternative tactic to beat these guys, even if some don't think playing defensive is fun. But it won't be fun in Qatar if we lose games by multiple goals again.

We've won some important Asian qualifies under Skocic, yes, but I don't see any identity to the team under him. The fact we aren't scoring off many set pieces worries me (I am not remembering any corners or free kicks we've scored off of under Skocic, but someone can correct me if I'm wrong). Set pieces are usually an indication of a manager's pragmatism. Relying on Hajsafi or Jahanbakhsh to just heave in passes (especially the 4th or 5th time they've whiffed corners too short or so hard they go out of bounds) doesn't show me a pragmatic coach that's going to outthink the world's best. Under CQ, I can remember several important set piece goals, what is Skocic telling the guys to do when we have our 5th corner against the likes of Lebanon? Maybe try something else in practice? Have a man come short, set the players up in a unique way? He's either incapable of drawing up the plays to take advantage correctly, or he's very stubborn to repeatedly try the same tactic without adapting (I personally think it might be a mix of both based on his demeanor thus far), but neither option is positive for TM. I probably won't be too into following Qatar 2022 if we make it and he's still the manager. I foresee another 1 point Branko 2006 performance with him, possibly less if we're in another group of death. In my mind he's Branko #2, no clear tactic or adaptability in game, greatly talented players covering his mediocrity through Asian WCQ, and dominating an easy Asian group to take us to the world cup, but making a whimper at the actual tournament.

Also, players like Sardar who are close with Taremi probably aren't happy about this behavior. Get rid of Aghili and Rahmati, who were dead weight anyway, that is one thing, dropping our mainstay, star FC Porto striker because you have thin skin, that's another. I don't hope for any person to lose their job, but I always hoped that since we're paying Skocic in bubble gum and pennies anyway, he'd just be moved to an advisor or assistant and we get an actual experienced coach with some type of established tactic.

[Afat11]

GOOD FOR TEAM MELLI AND GOOD FOR SKOCIC.

No one is above the team and it's direction. Taremi cannot be an exception. We win as a team, we lose as a team. None of his bull blame game, elitist attitude shenanigans anymore.

Do you work for a living? What if one of your hardest working, skilled coworkers was fired because he questioned the boss who came into your company but was previously managing a mom and pop shop? It is telling that Taremi is so outspoken about it. You think he's the only one that thinks this? You don't think the other players won't be affected by this mentally and this isn't a major hit to morale? I doubt this won Skocic any points with TM, even if some fans like you think there's some moral victory here. When your close friend and coworker is fired and your boss who came without any resume or background is shaking up your company in such a way, you let me know how hard you're going to work.

I can see the boys giving it 50% against Lebanon and Syria to draw and get this guy out. I think they did as much against Iraq and Bahrain in last round to get Wilmots out. Lose 4 points, but still in a strong position to qualify. Don't be surprised if that happens. If they did, I'd understand. When Skocic gets CQ's resume and respect level from the players, he can drop whomever he wants. CQ wasn't dropping important players after 10 games in charge. He also found diamonds to replace those ousted. If there's one thing that's clear from every Skocic TM game it's how dogcrap his starting 11's are pretty much every time. His decision making has been terrible thus far in my opinion from top to bottom, and I think the Korea draw is the first domino on his way out. We've looked disjointed and won games against weaker opposition, he can dance about his streak as much as he wants, but until he gets a tactic anyone can pinpoint with even a semblance of accuracy, I have 0 belief in this guy. Dropping Taremi is the straw that breaks the camels back for me, I want a new manager for this team asap. We're going nowhere fast, and if you tell me that this nobody coach is going to outwit Deschamps in the WC or do anything more than Branko, I would need some convincing since there is no evidence of that being in the realm of possibility.

[dash_sina]

Get rid of Aghili and Rahmati, who were dead weight anyway, that is one thing, dropping our mainstay, star FC Porto striker because you have thin skin, that's another. I don't hope for any person to lose their job, but I always hoped that since we're paying Skocic in bubble gum and pennies anyway, he'd just be moved to an advisor or assistant and we get an actual experienced coach with some type of established tactic.

Exactly this. thank you for putting it so nicely so others who compare this move to CQ's firing of Rahmati and Aghili know how incorrect they are.
It is equal to Portugal dropping a 28 yrs old Cristina Ronaldo. When CQ was the coach there were lots of tension between the two but he never dared to drop CR7. You just can NOT drop a team's keystone for a mere tweet it is absolutely absurd, he didn't quit the team or say anything offensive at all, actually Skocic was more offensive calling all Iranian players dull in tactics.

[kianstarwars]

A novice here has 2 questions. 1) Was it the coach who was the target of Taremi's twit? If he had targeted higher positioned people in our football system then the decision to bypass him must have come from above. 2)Has anyone (expert)here on this forum or in other media analyzed our coach's comment about our players? In other words, are our players capable of following a prescribed tactic? Thank You!

[Afat11]

A novice here has 2 questions. 1) Was it the coach who was the target of Taremi's twit? If he had targeted higher positioned people in our football system then the decision to bypass him must have come from above. 2)Has anyone (expert)here on this forum or in other media analyzed our coach's comment about our players? In other words, are our players capable of following a prescribed tactic? Thank You!

It looks like there are two interpretations of what was said:

1.) Iranian players are tactically limited (how Taremi seems to have taken it)
2.) Iranian-based IPL players are tactically limited (how it seems Skocic framed it or at least how it was clarified)

I personally think both are asinine. CQ had a fairly weak set of mostly IPL players holding Argentina for 90 minutes with a clear and defined tactic. We even came close several times to scoring on them and had a clear penalty denied. This was the ultimate runner up in the tournament. Our players can follow tactics, and I think people are missing this point. Even if Taremi took it the way Skocic meant it, Skocic is still wrong. Isn't a good portion of his recent call ups players in IPL? What does that do for the team to diminish the IPL players or any players for that matter.

My impression is that he was trying to cover his butt when we ultimately falter. Forewarning like "hey, well you see I'm working with tactically weak players, so eh, when I have a bad run... wink wink nudge nudge." Again, some are going to point to CQ saying every team we ever played was more likely to win and we were the underdogs. Those were mindgames in pre-match press conferences. What is Skocic doing early in his tenure saying these things to Croatian media? Too many things don't fit here, and this guy shouldn't be acting like CQ in year 4+ as manager when he's been on a streak bailed out by some real effort by guys like Taremi and Azmoun. How many clutch goals has Taremi scored? I think he'd know whether the coach's tactic is what created those goals, but people can still mindlessly praise the manager when it seems like he doesn't have a team leader/star's respect.

[oracle]

He's a 25 year old whose lived in the system of IR his whole life. Do you expect him to know any better? What can you possibly learn when you hear "marg bar amrika" your whole life?

he is almost 30

[Abtin]

I had a nightmare last night. But then I woke up and remembered this. My nightmare became a sweet dream all of a sudden.