SKOVIC DANESHMAND haya kun TEAM MELLI RO RAHA KUN

[O-ZoNe]

The problem with skocic is that the results were good but some performances against low teams were so bad, it felt like watching guam play

Every coach has that. Even CQ had that...I won't repost some of the results in question. I would even argue CQ gave up points to weaker teams...something that Skocic rarely did. Let's call a spade a spade. CQ had a different playing style than Skocic so naturally in the ebb and flow of a match sometimes your teams performance waxes and wanes regardless of coach or playing style.

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[tooleh khers]

What is Skocic doing right now? Twiddling his thumbs and doing photo ops at the Croatian embassy in Tehran??
You and I both know CQ would GO TO THE MAT for TM if the prep was bad. We already saw that happen twice.

Under CQ
qualified to back to back WCs for the first time ever, 2018 being stress-free
1 rank for the longest time in years
incredible performances against world-class Argentina, Spain and Portugal
Closest we ever came to making it to the second round, achieving 4 points
CQ also regarded by SIR ALEX FERGUSON as being the most sharp, attentive, meticulous, detailed assistant responsible for their defensive success against Barcelona in the champions league, and much more

Exactly. He is a great assistant. Not a very good head coach. His record speaks for itself. "closest ever" and "incredible performances" are not considered results and are just vague words and mainly based on your belief that Iran should lose by 3 goals against these teams. It is not based in reality. Reality is Iran losing by 3 goals is a calamity. Again this whole idea about CQ greatness and great performance is based on Iran being a goal fodder. It is sad when fans lower their team to elevate a failed coach and at best a 60% coach.

[Tarsal Claw]

We are going to the second round. And everyone will be praising Skovic. Ironically, he will probably have less to do with the advancement than the actual raw talent that we now have. Not to mention the group that we're in. The US always brings out the best in our team. Oh, and we will have a strong fan base there, that's another advantage. I got high hopes for this WC!

[Arman2]

We are going to the second round. And everyone will be praising Skovic. Ironically, he will probably have less to do with the advancement than the actual raw talent that we now have. Not to mention the group that we're in. The US always brings out the best in our team. Oh, and we will have a strong fan base there, that's another advantage. I got high hopes for this WC!

If that happens, I'll pay a round of doogh.

[oracle]

Kateb jan,
Sounds like you spotted some big mistake by Skocic during the Lebanon game that turned your view of him on its head. Do you mind sharing it with us? In your poetic format of course.

wil doo

[O-ZoNe]

If that happens, I'll pay a round of doogh.

Don't be cheap. On this forum sacrifice of body parts is the minimum bar set!

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[oracle]

Kateb jan,
Sounds like you spotted some big mistake by Skocic during the Lebanon game that turned your view of him on its head. Do you mind sharing it with us? In your poetic format of course.

since skocic is being promoted
playing offensive
soccer
against 3rd bottom 2nd level asian team
had 1 shot on goal that force save fist half.
2nd half
being down 1-0.
our first shot on goal was
in the mid 60th minuutes.
both goals was big defensive mistakes
by lebnon d
ball bouncing off their
legs to our goal scorers.
we looked lost disorganized
hopeless majority of the match NOT KNOWING LOBNON holes where and how to
attacked them.
tm is great team with great talented of offensive players
no excuse of not crating good legit scoring opportunity.
4-4-2 khati is another problem
i blame skocic
which stops us offensively to get the best out of our players...
. with a weak d and bad offensive planing
this wc is disaster in making to happen.
yeah supporting tm is good
being positive is good
supporting the coach no matter who is on the bench is good
ALSO WANTING A COACHING CHANGE IS GREAT
ALSO since a peron with little tm following
can see the coac has no technic
no style
no identity.

these friendlies no result=fire the coach
we did it in 98 and heck we got win.

[O-ZoNe]

these friendlies no result=fire the coach
we did it in 98 and heck we got win.

So would you like Sarkar Skocic to get results or test systems, players, and newcomers to TM during these friendlies?

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[oracle]

So would you like Sarkar Skocic to get results or test systems, players, and newcomers to TM during these friendlies?
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ozone and tole khers if i mention your names
in my posts is because i like chit chatting with both
of you.
skocic my dead grandma
abbas agha baghal
akbaragha shishe borooo
asghar agha najar
KNOW THE LINEUP only position is ? is rb but skocic will
start his SON moharami no matter what
RESULTS
IS whats MATTER since our line up is set
.
biravand
norafkan Lb
kanani
shoja
moharami
saeed
ahmad noor
jb
golizsdh
mehdi
sardar
lets stop deceiving ourself
CANADA MATCH IS MUST WIN MATCH FR
SKOCIC

[O-ZoNe]

ozone and tole khers if i mention your names
in my posts is because i like chit chatting with both
of you.
skocic my dead grandma
abbas agha baghal
akbaragha shishe borooo
asghar agha najar
KNOW THE LINEUP only position is ? is rb but skocic will
start his SON moharami no matter what
RESULTS
IS whats MATTER since our line up is set
.
biravand
norafkan Lb
kanani
shoja
moharami
saeed
ahmad noor
jb
golizsdh
mehdi
sardar
lets stop deceiving ourself
CANADA MATCH IS MUST WIN MATCH FR
SKOCIC

I think we have a difference of opinion...what else is new

The only must win matches Skocic has left in my books are in Group B at WC...and I won't kid ourselves I promise.

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[oracle]

IF SKOCIC
GET US 4 PT IN 2022 WC
i will get hair cut
with his name on both sides of my
head shaved in.

we need a coach
with super super conservative organize
defensive style to get 4pt
in the wc.
we know how to do it
we did it with class and respect
4 years a go and we have
better more experience players
this time around.

why do persians like
to deceive themselves ?

[Farzadfarhangni]

since skocic is being promoted
playing offensive
soccer
against 3rd bottom 2nd level asian team
had 1 shot on goal that force save fist half.
2nd half
being down 1-0.
our first shot on goal was
in the mid 60th minuutes.
both goals was big defensive mistakes
by lebnon d
ball bouncing off their
legs to our goal scorers.
we looked lost disorganized
hopeless majority of the match NOT KNOWING LOBNON holes where and how to
attacked them.
tm is great team with great talented of offensive players
no excuse of not crating good legit scoring opportunity.
4-4-2 khati is another problem
i blame skocic
which stops us offensively to get the best out of our players...
. with a weak d and bad offensive planing
this wc is disaster in making to happen.
yeah supporting tm is good
being positive is good
supporting the coach no matter who is on the bench is good
ALSO WANTING A COACHING CHANGE IS GREAT
ALSO since a peron with little tm following
can see the coac has no technic
no style
no identity.

these friendlies no result=fire the coach
we did it in 98 and heck we got win.

Ok Kateb jan. Thank you for your response.

I should not have asked for your poetic response as I could not follow some parts of your response. But, in general, it sounds like you were not happy with the performance of the team in that game and you felt we should have been more dominating.

I would ask that you consider the following facts:

1) Taremi was not playing. We did not have much time to practice 4-2-3-1 system with Azmoun on top and Jahanbakhsh, Ghoddos and Gholizadeh behind him. So we were actually not playing 4-4-2 khati...

2) It was played in a stadium right on the beach and players had to deal with 40 mph wind during the game. As a matter of fact, that wind is how they ended up scoring. The beautiful soccer that we all love to see is much harder in those conditions.

3) Their goal was their only shot on our goal, where Beiro and our defense turned off thinking that the ball was going out but wind kept it in... Really not a coaching mistake.

4) Lebanon had 4 shots with 1 on goal, we had 21 shots with 5 on goal, which I consider pretty dominating. We also had 73% possession compared to their 23%.

5) South Korea only beat Lebanon 1-0 in both matches, we beat them 2-1 and 2-0. Korea also has some decent offensive players. Point being Lebanon parks the bus and don't concede many goals. "Lebanon holes" that you refer to does not exist when a team is parking the bus as can be seen by korean results.

6) All goals ever scored in soccer is because of a defensive mistake. No one can ever score if defense does not make a mistake.

So in conclusion, with your permission, I would like to borrow your style of writing:

UNLESS WE HAVE PEP OR JURGEN, WANTING BETTER COACH IS OK, BUT PUTTING DOWN COACH THAT HAS GOTTEN RESULTS NOT SO OK

[oracle]

Ok Kateb jan. Thank you for your response.
I should not have asked for your poetic response as I could not follow some parts of your response. But, in general, it sounds like you were not happy with the performance of the team in that game and you felt we should have been more dominating.
I would ask that you consider the following facts:
1) Taremi was not playing. We did not have much time to practice 4-2-3-1 system with Azmoun on top and Jahanbakhsh, Ghoddos and Gholizadeh behind him. So we were actually not playing 4-4-2 khati...
2) It was played in a stadium right on the beach and players had to deal with 40 mph wind during the game. As a matter of fact, that wind is how they ended up scoring. The beautiful soccer that we all love to see is much harder in those conditions.
3) Their goal was their only shot on our goal, where Beiro and our defense turned off thinking that the ball was going out but wind kept it in... Really not a coaching mistake.
4) Lebanon had 4 shots with 1 on goal, we had 21 shots with 5 on goal, which I consider pretty dominating. We also had 73% possession compared to their 23%.
5) South Korea only beat Lebanon 1-0 in both matches, we beat them 2-1 and 2-0. Korea also has some decent offensive players. Point being Lebanon parks the bus and don't concede many goals. "Lebanon holes" that you refer to does not exist when a team is parking the bus as can be seen by korean results.
6) All goals ever scored in soccer is because of a defensive mistake. No one can ever score if defense does not make a mistake.
So in conclusion, with your permission, I would like to borrow your style of writing:
UNLESS WE HAVE PEP OR JURGEN, WANTING BETTER COACH IS OK, BUT PUTTING DOWN COACH THAT HAS GOTTEN RESULTS NOT SO OK

taremi not being THERE SHOULD NOT MADE A DIFFERENCE
under cq it never mattered who played and who didnt play
ADD THAT TO CQ IRAN RESUME.

i was refering to 4-4-2 khati as overall style of play

4-2-3-1
AGAINST LOBNON IS JOKE PLAYING WITH 2DMF
CQ GOT BASHED ALL THW TIME FOR THAT
heck skocic played with 2 dmf against combodia lol
that offense of genius skocic is
PERSIAN PLEASE LOOOOL

THE BALL WAS FLAT
TOO MUCH OXYGEN BY THE BEACH
THE WIND AND THE RAIN
persian PLEASE

21 SHOTS AND ONLY 5 ON GOAL BEING DOWN
1-0 for along period of time is embarrassing against lobnon----- PERSIAN PLEASE LOL

YOU NEED A LITTLE PRACTCE
but di a good job writting like me
lol

[Farzadfarhangni]

taremi not being THERE SHOULD NOT MADE A DIFFERENCE
under cq it never mattered who played and who didnt play
ADD THAT TO CQ IRAN RESUME.

i was refering to 4-4-2 khati as overall style of play

4-2-3-1
AGAINST LOBNON IS JOKE PLAYING WITH 2DMF
CQ GOT BASHED ALL THW TIME FOR THAT
heck skocic played with 2 dmf against combodia lol
that offense of genius skocic is
PERSIAN PLEASE LOOOOL

THE BALL WAS FLAT
TOO MUCH OXYGEN BY THE BEACH
THE WIND AND THE RAIN
persian PLEASE

21 SHOTS AND ONLY 5 ON GOAL BEING DOWN
1-0 for along period of time is embarrassing against lobnon----- PERSIAN PLEASE LOL

YOU NEED A LITTLE PRACTCE
but di a good job writting like me
lol

Kateb jan, either you are result oriented or you are not. Either you are stat oriented or you are not? You can't pick or choose when it suits you. I am certain that under Skocic, we had the easiest qualifying ever, better and easier that 2018. I am sure we had more attempted shots than 2018 I am sure we had more shots on goal than 2018. And I am certain we scored more goals than 2018. For the sake of completeness and fairness, in 2018, we only conceded 2 goals and in 2022 we conceded 4 goals. Price you have to pay for being more offensive.

You picked one Lebanon game to go from being a Skocic fan to anti Skocic... A game where Iran won!!! And you don't believe in "ball was flat", or "too much oxygen by the beach", etc... What was your reaction when CQ LOST to Lebanon in 2014 WC qualifiers? Did you want to immediately hang him?

[oracle]

i AM all about results.but
i wont deceive myself after a win
against mediocre opponents
. I PICK and choose for you to
show you skocic is being promoted
as great offense coach THATS
WHY OUR D is average lol.
playing 8 matches against
lobnon iraq syria uae and qualifying
with ease AND SCORING against
these 2nd level asian teams
DONT MEAN KASHK E BADEMJOON.
please dont say oh with welmoc
we lost to iraq and bahrain WELMOC
WAS CAR CRASH ACCIDENT.
we played a real asian team
and should of lost both matches
we walked away with 1pt against
s.k....

I TELL you what i did after
that Lebanon match .i remmber
all the wcq matches since 1990 wcq
i carry these games with me daily.

after the lebnon match
i called ZAHAB show on tv
and cussed out parviz mazloumi he hanged
up and i called again
told zahab on the air
CQ WILL LEARN from this match,
and will take us to the wc, and i asked
for omid ebrahimi to get to playing time.
that 2014 wcq cq built the team from ground
0, so i had patience for him knowing his resume
and knowing our dark days of 07-2012
my LOGIC was cq is world class coach
and we coming from dark era so he needs time.
BUT
THIS skocic is no cq
this team melli is not that tm.
this tm some can argue has the best players
overall including the bench 1 through 23
best since pre 1978 era.
skocic is not world class coach
he has taking over a team which a world class
coach had created.