Dragan Skočić In or Dragan Skočić Out?

[Doctor DOOM]

Unless someone comes up with a solid scenario where a top coach is available and is ready to come to Iran for the pittance we're offering, .... then I vote keep him.

talk is cheap. dreams are mere dreams. bring on top names that fit the above criteria and then we can discuss this.

another silly thread

[nisfejahan]

Come off of it people. Skocic is THE coach. He has solid results against the very teams that used to send us crying home...Iraq, Bahrain, Syria, Lebanon....etc, etc.

Even if he is fired today, he will not be replaced by anyone decent. Any coach worth his soul, will not replace a winning coach that was fired after leading his team to the WC qualification. At best, we will get a pretender like Wilmots who will laugh all the way to the bank.

Get behind the team and its coach. Stop fanning the flames. Skocic is being disrespected in public for essentially doing his job very well. This is NOT ACCEPTABLE.

You want to make a positive contribution, pester IFF about preparations. This uncertainty about the coach, 8 months before the start will only hurt TMs chances. Be part of the solution rather than amplifying the problem.

[O-ZoNe]

Come off of it people. Skocic is THE coach. He has solid results against the very teams that used to send us crying home...Iraq, Bahrain, Syria, Lebanon....etc, etc.

Even if he is fired today, he will not be replaced by anyone decent. Any coach worth his soul, will not replace a winning coach that was fired after leading his team to the WC qualification. At best, we will get a pretender like Wilmots who will laugh all the way to the bank.

Get behind the team and its coach. Stop fanning the flames. Skocic is being disrespected in public for essentially doing his job very well. This is NOT ACCEPTABLE.

You want to make a positive contribution, pester IFF about preparations. This uncertainty about the coach, 8 months before the start will only hurt TMs chances. Be part of the solution rather than amplifying the problem.

From your keyboard to their eyes. I hope they seriously consider your suggestions!

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[peiman92]

Interview was fine. Misaghi should have pressed more about preparation instead of focusing on a meaningless match we played with our half present squad.

Misaghi should have pressed even more on the match IMO.
Afterall it was our only test in the group. I watched the interview and all i heard was excuses from Skocic.

[peiman92]

Come off of it people. Skocic is THE coach. He has solid results against the very teams that used to send us crying home...Iraq, Bahrain, Syria, Lebanon....etc, etc.

Even if he is fired today, he will not be replaced by anyone decent. Any coach worth his soul, will not replace a winning coach that was fired after leading his team to the WC qualification. At best, we will get a pretender like Wilmots who will laugh all the way to the bank.

Get behind the team and its coach. Stop fanning the flames. Skocic is being disrespected in public for essentially doing his job very well. This is NOT ACCEPTABLE.

You want to make a positive contribution, pester IFF about preparations. This uncertainty about the coach, 8 months before the start will only hurt TMs chances. Be part of the solution rather than amplifying the problem.

The only solution is to replace him. Skocic is being disrespected because TM bench is not his place.

When you don’t have the people with you from the beginning this is always the risk. He had 2 years to win his critics over and all we’re seeing after these 2 years is clueless football without any sort of gameplan. Enough is enough.

Now he can still save face by resigning. His critics might even consider him a hero if he does.

[Keshwardoost]

Come off of it people. Skocic is THE coach. He has solid results against the very teams that used to send us crying home...Iraq, Bahrain, Syria, Lebanon....etc, etc.
Even if he is fired today, he will not be replaced by anyone decent. Any coach worth his soul, will not replace a winning coach that was fired after leading his team to the WC qualification. At best, we will get a pretender like Wilmots who will laugh all the way to the bank.
Get behind the team and its coach. Stop fanning the flames. Skocic is being disrespected in public for essentially doing his job very well. This is NOT ACCEPTABLE.
You want to make a positive contribution, pester IFF about preparations. This uncertainty about the coach, 8 months before the start will only hurt TMs chances. Be part of the solution rather than amplifying the problem.

I nominate this to post of the month,.

Ya Hiidink Ya Eskocic dige
Lets let it go now and press Iff instead for preperations.

If those fans would chant
Iff chikaresh mikone chera TM chob amadeh nemikoneh! instead..

That would be much better and useful, hope all fans in pgpl start chanting that..

[shahname]

I say IN, not because I think he is that qualified, merely because there is no time left for a new headcoach to get to know the team, and have a meaningful impact on it!

[nisfejahan]

The only solution is to replace him. Skocic is being disrespected because TM bench is not his place.

When you don’t have the people with you from the beginning this is always the risk. He had 2 years to win his critics over and all we’re seeing after these 2 years is clueless football without any sort of gameplan. Enough is enough.

Now he can still save face by resigning. His critics might even consider him a hero if he does.

"Skocic is being disrespected because TM bench is not his place."
NO. He is being disrespected because those who are disrespecting him are morons. There is no justification for the abusive disrespect he is getting under any circumstances. You do not like him fine. Go complain to IFF, respectfully. They are the ones who hired him and kept him.

"When you don’t have the people with you from the beginning this is always the risk."

Oh, he has plenty of people with him. The players as well as the SANE majority. It is always the village idiots who are the loudest.

"He had 2 years to win his critics over and all we’re seeing after these 2 years is clueless football without any sort of gameplan"

In those two years, he achieved results better than any other Iranian coach, PERIOD. His critics are clueless jealous wannabe coaches who dream of getting their hands on TM, as well as the idiots who are egged on by those wannabes. That's a fact.

"His critics might even consider him a hero if he does"

The critics are self-serving morons and those who cannot count properly, so who give a crap what the critics think if he resigns.

BEST RECORD EVER. DEAL WITH IT.

#TRUST THE RESULTS

[DR Strangemoosh]

Tomislav Ivic has one of the worst statistical records for TM but with only a few months to go, made the changes to lead to our unexpected 1998 world cup performance. Players and assistants all credit the results (against all odds at the time) to his work in securing the time and the camps and working with the team technically.

https://www.teammelli.com/coaches/

#TRUST THE RESULTS

[nisfejahan]

Yes but his bad results were in friendlies, just like Skocics only loss which was essentially a friendly
#TRUST THE RESULTS…. It is the only objective (not to mention the most important) metric.

[DR Strangemoosh]

Yes but his bad results were in friendlies, just like Skocics only loss which was essentially a friendly
#TRUST THE RESULTS…. It is the only objective (not to mention the most important) metric.

The only objective at the moment is to perform well in the world cup and secondary objective is to get to the second round in this final attempt before the format changes.

Anything else is irrelevant...

[Babak agha]

The only objective at the moment is to perform well in the world cup and secondary objective is to get to the second round in this final attempt before the format changes.
Anything else is irrelevant...

With performing well, do we mean don't get a lot of goals scored on, no matter how we play.. or do we mean play actual good football?

Also follow up question, what do we gain with performing well and not advancing?

[Ostad_Goosfand]

before SK games skocic stans said wait for SK games, now they say the games were meaningless and we had missing players. look i dont think we should FIRE skocic but how can you defend him and just say stuff like we won the group and beat iraq, we havent looked solid defensively for awhile, he is decent that is all. dont care what his record says....

[peiman92]

"Skocic is being disrespected because TM bench is not his place."
NO. He is being disrespected because those who are disrespecting him are morons. There is no justification for the abusive disrespect he is getting under any circumstances. You do not like him fine. Go complain to IFF, respectfully. They are the ones who hired him and kept him.

"When you don’t have the people with you from the beginning this is always the risk."

Oh, he has plenty of people with him. The players as well as the SANE majority. It is always the village idiots who are the loudest.

"He had 2 years to win his critics over and all we’re seeing after these 2 years is clueless football without any sort of gameplan"

In those two years, he achieved results better than any other Iranian coach, PERIOD. His critics are clueless jealous wannabe coaches who dream of getting their hands on TM, as well as the idiots who are egged on by those wannabes. That's a fact.

"His critics might even consider him a hero if he does"

The critics are self-serving morons and those who cannot count properly, so who give a crap what the critics think if he re
signs.
BEST RECORD EVER. DEAL WITH IT.

#TRUST THE RESULTS

"He is being disrespected because those who are disrespecting him are morons."

Those people chanting Queiroz in his face did nothing wrong. It was completely justified, showing they're not happy with him.
Those who went further than that are morons, agreed.


"Oh, he has plenty of people with him. The players as well as the SANE majority."

The "SANE majority"? Just a look at the poll here suggests otherwise. More people want him out.

The players are with him? Maybe you missed Taremis tweet? Had he tweeted it today Skocic would have been history.
At the time Mehdi tweeted the majority of people were being blinded by Skocic results. The tide has turned now.


"In those two years, he achieved results better than any other Iranian coach, PERIOD."

You're talking about results but fail to mention that he got the worst results against S.Korea in WCQ since 94.
S.Korea was the only team that posed a threat against us in this group, and he failed miserably.

"The critics are self-serving morons and those who cannot count properly, so who give a crap what the critics think if he re
signs. "

You're delusional and in for a rude awakening in the WC.

[DR Strangemoosh]

"He is being disrespected because those who are disrespecting him are morons."

Those people chanting Queiroz in his face did nothing wrong. It was completely justified, showing they're not happy with him.
Those who went further than that are morons, agreed.


"Oh, he has plenty of people with him. The players as well as the SANE majority."

The "SANE majority"? Just a look at the poll here suggests otherwise. More people want him out.

The players are with him? Maybe you missed Taremis tweet? Had he tweeted it today Skocic would have been history.
At the time Mehdi tweeted the majority of people were being blinded by Skocic results. The tide has turned now.


"In those two years, he achieved results better than any other Iranian coach, PERIOD."

You're talking about results but fail to mention that he got the worst results against S.Korea in WCQ since 94.
S.Korea was the only team that posed a threat against us in this group, and he failed miserably.

"The critics are self-serving morons and those who cannot count properly, so who give a crap what the critics think if he re
signs. "

You're delusional and in for a rude awakening in the WC.

This just reminds me exactly of the same conversations we were having in 2006... I don't get why we don't learn from history