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    Originally posted by milad_b View Post
    Its funny that I opened a Thread 1 Year ago and I warned you guys about skocic. But same people who are stupidly asking for his removal at this time started making fun of the thread.
    I did warn you guys that if we stick to skocic (1 year ago), then we have to stick with him for WC because it would be very very very stupid to change him just before WC. Here is the thread. I suggest you guys visit and read what I've written.
    http://www.persianfootball.com/forum...39#post2743439
    I know what I'm talking about , I see things before you guys can even think about it after 1 year. Now I'm warning you guys that the consequences of removing skocic at this time will be bigger than what we will get if skocic stays.
    Again I think skocic has tactics, but he simply can't play without kanani and shoja. If one player is missing then the whole DF line will be a mess. Thats his biggest weakness, but I can guarantee you this that if all players are available (shoja , kanani , amiri , taremi and azmoun) , with 2-3 friendlies , we will get the results we need.
    Agha Milad, why is it his weakness? Isn't it TM weakness? Not having good enough defenders to replace ones not available? We have problems with our league clubs and their coaches with bigger egos than top gun world class coaches with a fraction of knowledge and ability so little that they can't turn talents into world class players. No wonder it is a dream of every player of ours to go to Europe even the low ranked ones to learn and improve their skills and progress as pro footballers.
    هرگاه شما بازیکنی دیدید که از نظر تکنیک و قدرت بدنی فوق العاده است و همیشه یکسان است و تحت هیچ شرایط هیچ افتی ندارد شما یک فوق ستاره پیدا کرده اید در غیر اینصورت شما به یک بازیکن معمولی
    نگاه میکنید.
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      Originally posted by milad_b View Post
      Its funny that I opened a Thread 1 Year ago and I warned you guys about skocic. But same people who are stupidly asking for his removal at this time started making fun of the thread.

      I did warn you guys that if we stick to skocic (1 year ago), then we have to stick with him for WC because it would be very very very stupid to change him just before WC. Here is the thread. I suggest you guys visit and read what I've written.
      http://www.persianfootball.com/forum...39#post2743439

      I know what I'm talking about , I see things before you guys can even think about it after 1 year. Now I'm warning you guys that the consequences of removing skocic at this time will be bigger than what we will get if skocic stays.

      Again I think skocic has tactics, but he simply can't play without kanani and shoja. If one player is missing then the whole DF line will be a mess. Thats his biggest weakness, but I can guarantee you this that if all players are available (shoja , kanani , amiri , taremi and azmoun) , with 2-3 friendlies , we will get the results we need.
      He couldve saved himself from losing by simply not playing nourollahi and noorafkan. He is clueless

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        Originally posted by Roozbeh-G2006 View Post
        Agha Milad, why is it his weakness? Isn't it TM weakness? Not having good enough defenders to replace ones not available? We have problems with our league clubs and their coaches with bigger egos than top gun world class coaches with a fraction of knowledge and ability so little that they can't turn talents into world class players. No wonder it is a dream of every player of ours to go to Europe even the low ranked ones to learn and improve their skills and progress as pro footballers.
        Roozbeh jan its his weakness because I believe we have some good quality CD to replace what we have right now. He could've simply over come this problem by using proper tactics in using our defensive MD such as Ezza and Omid.

        The only problem that we can all agree that its not his fault is the Left back . We don't have anyone good enough to fill our left back. Noorafkan is weak, Vahid amiri is injured and ehsan hajsooti is a mess.

        I remember Moharam used Mohebi as Left back in ACL i think and it worked perfectly I wonder if we can try that again. I have a feeling it will work.

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          Originally posted by Nazpari View Post
          He couldve saved himself from losing by simply not playing nourollahi and noorafkan. He is clueless
          The only think I can agree on is using noorafkan as CD. However Noorafkan was changed to his role as left back in 2nd half which he assisted one goal. So apart from noorafkan who is good enough to play as Left back.

          Again I think noorafkan played okay as a left back assisting one goal however his sooti in 2nd half was caused by lack of communication between CD and LB. Noorafkan actually got a decent rating from multiple websites.

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            Originally posted by milad_b View Post
            Roozbeh jan its his weakness because I believe we have some good quality CD to replace what we have right now. He could've simply over come this problem by using proper tactics in using our defensive MD such as Ezza and Omid.

            The only problem that we can all agree that its not his fault is the Left back . We don't have anyone good enough to fill our left back. Noorafkan is weak, Vahid amiri is injured and ehsan hajsooti is a mess.

            I remember Moharam used Mohebi as Left back in ACL i think and it worked perfectly I wonder if we can try that again. I have a feeling it will work.
            I m sure he knows that. I am sure he is exploring his options/ testing players in friendlies to find who can do what. Aren't Ezza and Omid midfield players? Maybe he will use them as defenders but only if he has good enough fit players for the midfield come November. We don't really know much, and only speculating. It should only be that really speculations. But some people seem to have gone to war with the intention of sacking the head coach at such crucial time. One wonders if they are just khaleh kherseh or deliberately trying to sabotage any chance we may have at the WC. Just like those who campaigned to cancel the friendly with Canada.
            هرگاه شما بازیکنی دیدید که از نظر تکنیک و قدرت بدنی فوق العاده است و همیشه یکسان است و تحت هیچ شرایط هیچ افتی ندارد شما یک فوق ستاره پیدا کرده اید در غیر اینصورت شما به یک بازیکن معمولی
            نگاه میکنید.
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            I am Persian. I used to rule the world. I will never be subservient to anyone.

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              Originally posted by Roozbeh-G2006 View Post
              Aren't Ezza and Omid midfield players? Maybe he will use them as defenders but only if he has good enough fit players for the midfield come November.
              Roozbeh jan I didn't mean to use them as defenders , I meant using them in defensive work. Something CQ did 4 years ago.

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                Originally posted by milad_b View Post
                The only think I can agree on is using noorafkan as CD. However Noorafkan was changed to his role as left back in 2nd half which he assisted one goal. So apart from noorafkan who is good enough to play as Left back.

                Again I think noorafkan played okay as a left back assisting one goal however his sooti in 2nd half was caused by lack of communication between CD and LB. Noorafkan actually got a decent rating from multiple websites.
                Akhabi, noorafkan assisted them 2 goals. He cant defend at all and everyone who tried got past him at LB or CB. Same happened during Asian Champions League, worst sepahan player on field. Those ratings dont mean anything. Hajsafi and nourollahi got motm on those sites not long ago. He cant defend, doesnt know basics of using weak foot, not fast and uses 10 years to make a decision and load a pass. Ure better off putting a cone at Lb than him. Abolfazl Jalali, Jafar Salmani, Amir Jafari(u23), Mohammad Mehdi Ahmadi, Mehran Derakshan Mehran are all better.

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                  Originally posted by Nazpari View Post
                  Akhabi, noorafkan assisted them 2 goals. He cant defend at all and everyone who tried got past him at LB or CB. Same happened during Asian Champions League, worst sepahan player on field. Those ratings dont mean anything. Hajsafi and nourollahi got motm on those sites not long ago. He cant defend, doesnt know basics of using weak foot, not fast and uses 10 years to make a decision and load a pass. Ure better off putting a cone at Lb than him. Abolfazl Jalali, Jafar Salmani, Amir Jafari(u23), Mohammad Mehdi Ahmadi, Mehran Derakshan Mehran are all better.
                  seriously. How can anybody watch this guy for sepahan and now multiple times for TM and still think he can cut it on the international stage. His body positioning when he is 1v1 is completely! wrong. If he hasnt learned these things by now, there is no hope he picks them up in next few months

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                    Originally posted by milad_b View Post
                    The only think I can agree on is using noorafkan as CD. However Noorafkan was changed to his role as left back in 2nd half which he assisted one goal. So apart from noorafkan who is good enough to play as Left back.
                    Again I think noorafkan played okay as a left back assisting one goal however his sooti in 2nd half was caused by lack of communication between CD and LB. Noorafkan actually got a decent rating from multiple websites.

                    Milad jan,

                    He's had way too many poor performances for TM as CB and LB. He doesn't have the speed, strength. Yes he makes ok passes, but we need him to defend. He's Skocic's worst decision every game.

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                      Originally posted by Nokhodi View Post
                      Milad jan,

                      He's had way too many poor performances for TM as CB and LB. He doesn't have the speed, strength. Yes he makes ok passes, but we need him to defend. He's Skocic's worst decision every game.
                      He won't start in WC. I strongly believe Skocic is testing him seeing if he can be a utility player.

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                        Originally posted by O-ZoNe View Post
                        He won't start in WC. I strongly believe Skocic is testing him seeing if he can be a utility player.

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                        How many times must he be tested and fail? It's not like we are playing 10 games every other month. We don't have that luxury. What else does he need to see that anyone who knows football doesn't see? Guy is a failure.
                        "This is a totalitarian system whose presence people feel in their blood and in their flesh on a daily basis. And it’s one that does not grant freedoms of any kind, or accommodate people’s demands in any way. What is increasingly clear is that there is clear demand for change in the regime. What the people want is regime change, and no return to the past. There is a very real possibility of regime change." - Nasrin Sotoudeh

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                          Originally posted by O-ZoNe View Post
                          He won't start in WC. I strongly believe Skocic is testing him seeing if he can be a utility player.

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                          I know all coaches love utility players (hence why we still have a poor player like Hajisafi), but Noorafkan is an evne worse version of Hajisafi.

                          Obviously our best utility man is Amiri.

                          I really hope you're right on this about Skocic. Aghassi in 15 minutes showed more ability as CB than Noorafkan ever has.

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                            norafkan
                            as cb IS A NO NO.

                            norafkan as LB with vahid amiri in front of
                            of him is not that bad option


                            norafkanas dmf is ok

                            one thing everyne forgts here
                            is norafkan true position is
                            LEFT Wing
                            and he assisted on the goal
                            aking play from that side.

                            hamid estili since team omid lacked
                            cb play him there
                            then he playd him as dmf

                            ESTILI IS giving skocic advise
                            thats why they start norafkanifbad position.

                            norafkan is young
                            he has good speed
                            and he can pass
                            PLAYHIM IN HIS TRUE POSITION
                            and he be ok.

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                              Originally posted by taremiscores View Post
                              How many times must he be tested and fail? It's not like we are playing 10 games every other month. We don't have that luxury. What else does he need to see that anyone who knows football doesn't see? Guy is a failure.
                              Well a coach can only decide that. We had same issues with Cq and Shojaie as an example.

                              Let me remind you in Feb you posted this in the Nourafkan thread...


                              Originally posted by taremiscores View Post
                              He's the ultimate utility player: can play LB, central midfielder, and now CB.
                              So obviously he has some potential and maybe Skocic believes he can unlock it...who knows. Coaches decide the lineup and when they have had enough or are satisfied.

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                                I want him out, but let's be realistic, IFF can literally not afford getting anyone else. They don't have money.

                                So we're stuck with this tactic-less nonsense till the World Cup.
                                Ma Bishomarim

                                "!خدایا ایستاده مردن را نصبیم کن که از نشسته زیستن در زلت خسته ام"
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                                "Lord, let me die standing, as I am tired of living in indignity and on my knees"
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