World Cup 2022 Qualifier: Iran - Lebanon (Info, Updates & Live Reports)

[teammelli91]

God bless your positivity

Have you seen this coach learn anything so far as TM coach? This is the same man that walked around smiling while losing to Korea playing with 2 attackers for over 70 minutes.

God bless you dadash

I’m trying really hard to keep positive. If I go the other way, I get bashed for being a CQ loyalist. My posts in this thread have been a bit bipolar. I’m trying to point out the negatives without ignoring the positives.

I hope Skocic and the team make the necessary changes and fix our issues.

[inarsenewetrust]

Unpopular opinion : didn't find the game that bad, appreciate we hold the ball and had long passing moment and some nice movement.
I find it better that the slow crap I see from PSG.
Of course, we lacks some chance creation and our team looks out of form. But impossible to predict our WC with games like that 8 months before.

Another positive is mashhad stadium who was better than the damn vuvuzela azadi.

Good we saw Hosseinzadeh (promising), mehdipour, esmaeilfar (should have come earlier).

Nour and sarlak are bad. I hate Torabi but is so so (some nice and awful moment).
Noorafkan like always looks ago against small opposition.

We need badly some good friendlies

They will not appear from thin air or estili magic list.

Remember how CQ busted his ass to get some friendlies, Skocic needs to adopt a more aggressive approach. Unfortunately this is where having a coach with zero reputation whatsoever harms us. He knows that this is biggest chance of his life and doesnt want to risk not being on bench at WC bc he asked IFF to help maximize teams chances of success

[Philosophy_King]

Unpopular opinion : didn't find the game that bad, appreciate we hold the ball and had long passing moment and some nice movement.
I find it better that the slow crap I see from PSG.
Of course, we lacks some chance creation and our team looks out of form. But impossible to predict our WC with games like that 8 months before.

Another positive is mashhad stadium who was better than the damn vuvuzela azadi.

Good we saw Hosseinzadeh (promising), mehdipour, esmaeilfar (should have come earlier).

Nour and sarlak are bad. I hate Torabi but is so so (some nice and awful moment).
Noorafkan like always looks ago against small opposition.

We need badly some good friendlies

We had so much possession because Lebanon decided to park the bus. When they decided to press us high, we fall back into bekesh ziresh and gave up possession.

[inarsenewetrust]

How will that fix that we have players who can't get minutes in their clubs, are injury prone, or can't run 30 minutes.

one thing CQ did to monitor fitness of domestic players at least in 2018 (when we had quite a few domestic guys in the squad) was regularly have recovery/fitness sessions at PEC.

Not sure what exactly went on there but he insisted on it and even had fights with the PGPL clubs about it at some stage. In the end everybody agreed that for these players to get the best recovery, fitness preparation this was a must.

Not sure what happened to that plan. I agree on one point, that with respect to legionairres that do not play much Skocic's hands are a bit tied. They will always take extra mins to find their feet in tM games. Having said that, it is not that hard to set up and individual fitness plan for these guys to sustain while sitting on bench for their clubs. The physical trainers of TM can easily cooperate with the people in charge of this stuff at the guys respective clubs. Unfortunately, once again, seems like Skocic completeley dropped the ball on pursuing such arrangements.

[Superparsi]

Dude at this point why not give the seat to an Iranian coach. We have talented young hungry educated coaches like Nekounam, Hashemian, Daei, Yahya. Skocic shekam gondeh is in my opinion aroosak khaymeh shabbazi for IFF for their mafia bazi bull shit.. God I miss Sir Queiroz.. Baa un moshteh mohkamesh va ghayratesh! We need a coach with charisma and strong character.. Its what our players need. Our players get to comfortable and lazy with a coach who wants to be all buddy buddy instead of being a leader/father like Queiroz. Disciplined and direct

[O-ZoNe]

God bless you dadash

I’m trying really hard to keep positive. If I go the other way, I get bashed for being a CQ loyalist. My posts in this thread have been a bit bipolar. I’m trying to point out the negatives without ignoring the positives.

I hope Skocic and the team make the necessary changes and fix our issues.

We need balanced thinking. We can't rag on our team or outright praise and ignore the issues. We all know IFF...but right now these are the cards we are dealt with.

As long as Sko is in charge we gotta support and hope the corrections are made. Defense is a bit in disarray but can be fixed. I hope Sko looks hard at game tape and makes tough calls. We also appear to lack fitness and this can be a relatively easy fix. We need a plan for players who won't get regular club time but may be part of the WC squad. Every country has this issue to some degree...ours might be more pronounced given our legionnaires.

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[peiman92]

Referee, players out of shape, what’s the next excuse Skocic admirers?

Skocic made our midfield so non existent that we had to rely on Kannani as a playmaker…

[PSGman#19]

We had so much possession because Lebanon decided to park the bus. When they decided to press us high, we fall back into bekesh ziresh and gave up possession.

I remember a time (not long ago) that we weren't even able to hold possession and have 2 passes against 11 statues

[Superparsi]

We need balanced thinking. We can't rag on our team or outright praise and ignore the issues. We all know IFF...but right now these are the cards we are dealt with.

As long as Sko is in charge we gotta support and hope the corrections are made. Defense is a bit in disarray but can be fixed. I hope Sko looks hard at game tape and makes tough calls. We also appear to lack fitness and this can be a relatively easy fix. We need a plan for players who won't get regular club time but may be part of the WC squad. Every country has this issue to some degree...ours might be more pronounced given our legionnaires.

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Sko is such a mediocre of a coach. He is so fuckin lucky he has players like Azmoun and Jahanbakhsh in his arsenal. Not to mention the teams has won against. I am sorry after Korea game and then today's, I have lost hope in even having an ounce of chance of winning a single game at the world cup...

[Philosophy_King]

I remember a time (not long ago) that we weren't even able to hold possession and have 2 passes against 11 statues

Me too, that was under Ghotbi.

[fary-jupiter]

i hate so say it, but i think we should stay with skocic. Just because the fact they might bring some one like ghlenoi or mayeli kohan lol

[taha]

How will that fix that we have players who can't get minutes in their clubs, are injury prone, or can't run 30 minutes.

Nokhodi, you know yourself there are other national team managers who have players that don't feature regularly for their club but will play 90 mins for their country. These managers ensure these players are match sharp and fit in time for international tournaments.

I don't want to sound like a CQ fan boy, but if I am not mistaken, CQ had one-off camps at PEC for the domestic players during the season. Also, because he took no $hit and had a lot of competition in the team and would not tolerate players not being physically fit, the players themselves I am sure would have put time in the gym and on the training pitch to ensure they were fit and sharp. Look back to the social media accounts of some of the players before the WC and AC when some of the players would employ fitness coaches and PTs for one on one training.

I don't trust Skocic to run vigorous training camps with a high focus on fitness. He is both tactically inept and seems uninterested and not invested. To me, he has reached his peak and he probably can't believe his luck.
I cannot hide my dislike for Skocic's tactics and performance. I have nothing against the guy, I don't know him, but what he is doing with Iran is not something I can subscribe to.

[inarsenewetrust]

We need balanced thinking. We can't rag on our team or outright praise and ignore the issues. We all know IFF...but right now these are the cards we are dealt with.
As long as Sko is in charge we gotta support and hope the corrections are made. Defense is a bit in disarray but can be fixed. I hope Sko looks hard at game tape and makes tough calls. We also appear to lack fitness and this can be a relatively easy fix. We need a plan for players who won't get regular club time but may be part of the WC squad. Every country has this issue to some degree...ours might be more pronounced given our legionnaires.
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To keep an objective viewpoint, I do not deny skocic faces some issues that really arent his fault. The problem I have with him is, he literally just sits and accepts those problems and doesnt seek to PROACTIVELY address them. It shows on the field of play. I just hate he leaves so many things to chance and hoping everybody finds form and fitness at same time, it will not magically happen. He actually needs to do some extra work to facilitate it. What else does he have an entire backroom staff for...Issues of fitness of both domestic and legionairre players was something that existed in the past and it can certainly be dealt with. CQ experienced same issues and produced one of the fittest teams at WC, even opposition coaches at WC remarked at the physical level we displayed against them.

Coaching a NT like Iran, with a total absence of proper planning, standard procedures, functioning league, etc requires a lot more than a coach who puts together a few training sessions during FIFA weeks.

It requires you to literally plan, think, negotiate, and force incompetent people do whatever you think will give the team the best chance of succeeding. You have to set up extra sessions, create a long and detailed preparation plan outlining how we are going to address every single weakpoint to the best of our ability. Most of all you have to be willing to truly give a damn and fight.

Or else we will be left with participation trophy in 8 months time.

[St_Mark]

only watched second half. Cant tell much from such a game but Mehdipour looks better bet than nourollahi. OFC yasin could change dimension, god forbid skocic give that much trust to a talented young player.

Sarlak is really bad on the ball. I didnt see him pass > 5meters once, and the passes were all crappy and slow.

Azmoun, as Leverkusen coach said, is lacking his usual explosiveness. Combo of the injury + covid + other illness. With more game time he will slowly build out of it. Not worried about him, good he scored again after a while.

Kanani + Majid are a solid pairing moving forward, and with PAG, Shoja, and imo Fallah all other options. I talked shit about Kanani pre camp but credit to him. As much as he is a pure dalghak his bikhial nature actually helps his performance, really doesnt give a shit what anybody says about him. we are solid enough at CB. Issues come at fullback slots. Noorafkan has this one pass into space down the line that is his speciality and is crap at everything else. Sadegh is prone to do weird things, even if his overall play is solid enough technically, physically. Its really bizarre how hardani got dropped for this camp.

Also ARJs touch is horrible...no wonder the guy is getting benched at feyenoord. Second goal would never have been scored on a professional team + gK, let alone one in the WC.

As such games are essentially irrelevant in terms of directly preparing for the WC, I feel like we should be using them to test out some elements we would be able to transfer to WC games. Setpieces are a big option, and how we scored both of our goals at the last WC. We have a big, tall team that can put pressure on opposition through set pieces as we did throughout CQ reign. We do jack shit with our set pieces now and they seem to only be getting worse, something Skocic should seriously consider addressing.

Others will keep hating me for saying this:

Azmoon has hardly (n̶e̶v̶e̶r̶ ) been a 90 min player.

[inarsenewetrust]

Others will keep hating me for saying this:

Azmoon has hardly (n̶e̶v̶e̶r̶ ) been a 90 min player.

I think we can just look at his level a few months ago, scoring great late goals Vs Juve, was a thorn up chelsea's ass all game until his very late injury running in behind.

It is definitely a level he has, performances show it. Just clearly not there at the moment