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[Roozbeh-G2006]

DUMB thread.

If anyone thinks playing defensive will get us anywhere in the WC's 3 games, is horribly, terribly, ridiculously, horrendously, terrifyingly mistaken

quoting fergussen on titles and defense/attack is also extremely irrelevant.
that is in the context of a LEAGUE set up where you're given enough time/games to recover & bounce back from a few defeats.

WC is pretty much THREE do or die games.
relying on draws and 0-0's will 99% end in elimination.
this is not basic football. neither is it basic math. it's basic common sense

Alex Ferguson is referring to the year they lost title because of GD as Manu defence was sorakh and Man city having conceded fewer goals.

[PersianLion80]

DUMB thread.

If anyone thinks playing defensive will get us anywhere in the WC's 3 games, is horribly, terribly, ridiculously, horrendously, terrifyingly mistaken

quoting fergussen on titles and defense/attack is also extremely irrelevant.
that is in the context of a LEAGUE set up where you're given enough time/games to recover & bounce back from a few defeats.

WC is pretty much THREE do or die games.
relying on draws and 0-0's will 99% end in elimination.
this is not basic football. neither is it basic math. it's basic common sense

Totally agree but I don’t see our defense doing anything this wc…we need better players at the d position

[DR Strangemoosh]

DUMB thread.
If anyone thinks playing defensive will get us anywhere in the WC's 3 games, is horribly, terribly, ridiculously, horrendously, terrifyingly mistaken
quoting fergussen on titles and defense/attack is also extremely irrelevant.
that is in the context of a LEAGUE set up where you're given enough time/games to recover & bounce back from a few defeats.
WC is pretty much THREE do or die games.
relying on draws and 0-0's will 99% end in elimination.
this is not basic football. neither is it basic math. it's basic common sense

Disagree. Also, putting things in large font and red doesn't make your statement more salient.

Repeat: Realism/rationalism is important and thinking Iran has the depth to perform attacking football in a world cup against teams with players throughout elite European leagues is horribly, terribly, ridiculously, horrendously, terrifyingly mistaken.

Some members have their head in a utopian dream...

[Farzadfarhangni]

Some of our players had trouble keeping possession, completing 5 yard passes, and were easily pressed by AFC gerdu forushes. Do you really think TM can walk into a World Cup and play a successful possession-based football?

Didn't you say that Skocic stinks and it was only because of our talented players that we breezed right through qualifying??????? Now, our players can't complete a 5 yard pass???


If that is true that our players can't complete a 5 yard pass, then we should get blown out so we can go back to fundamentals and learn how to pass, instead of covering ourselves in glory because we LOST 1-0 to a weak, weak Spain.

[mehdi13]

Didn't you say that Skocic stinks and it was only because of our talented players that we breezed right through qualifying??????? Now, our players can't complete a 5 yard pass???


If that is true that our players can't complete a 5 yard pass, then we should get blown out so we can go back to fundamentals and learn how to pass, instead of covering ourselves in glory because we LOST 1-0 to a weak, weak Spain.

You missed the first word in my post. Some.

[Farzadfarhangni]

You missed the first word in my post. Some.

I hate for this to go back an forth... We have some players that can't complete a 5 yard players and some other really really good players. Understood. Thank you.

[O-ZoNe]

Disagree. Also, putting things in large font and red doesn't make your statement more salient.

Realism is important. In a previous post, you said that Iran's squad is nothing less than Senegal's.

Repeat: Realism/rationalism is important and thinking Iran has the depth to perform attacking football in a world cup against teams with players throughout elite European leagues is horribly, terribly, ridiculously, horrendously, terrifyingly mistaken.

Some members have their head in a utopian dream...

WC needs arguably 5-6 points in group stage to advance. In 3 games you have to have luck and skill. If you don't attack you can't take advantage of luck because keeping ball out of your goal is one thing but not creating chances means kiss advancing good bye.

It's 3 games. Anything can happen. It's not utopian at all its actually quite realistic. Utopian is believing by defending only eventually every team will either score an own goal or your will score 100% of your limited offensive chances. That's not only utopian but a fantasy.

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[DR Strangemoosh]

Playing bezan ziresh football against some pretty under-par Persian Gulf nations and relying on moments of magic from either Taremi or Azmoun isn't going to cut it in a world cup.

Teams like Bosnia and Morocco had players spread throughout the whole of Europe, Bosnia had a whole Bundesliga defence line in 2014, and star players from Serie A and the Premier League.

The issue is that fans don't appreciate the gulf at the moment, and hence can't process the discipline that CQ instilled in TM, which based on the last few games I've seen has all but disappeared.

The key point is that we are still getting fans saying the likes of this:



I mean, where do you start when the interpretation of Iran's pool of talent is so far out of the ballpark. Take Senegal who have such a depth in defence and midfield (ignore their goalkeeper and forwards) - whereas we have to rely on a guy who has barely had a handful of games over 5 years as our midfield lynchpin....

Where is the realism?

[Hosseini]

Exactly right

Unfortunately some fans here think that we are pessimists and are hating, when we are actually just looking at things with a realist and pragmatic lens

Playing bezan ziresh football against some pretty under-par Persian Gulf nations and relying on moments of magic from either Taremi or Azmoun isn't going to cut it in a world cup.

Teams like Bosnia and Morocco had players spread throughout the whole of Europe, Bosnia had a whole Bundesliga defence line in 2014, and star players from Serie A and the Premier League.

The issue is that fans don't appreciate the gulf at the moment, and hence can't process the discipline that CQ instilled in TM, which based on the last few games I've seen has all but disappeared.

The key point is that we are still getting fans saying the likes of this:



I mean, where do you start when the interpretation of Iran's pool of talent is so far out of the ballpark. Take Senegal who have such a depth in defence and midfield (ignore their goalkeeper and forwards) - whereas we have to rely on a guy who has barely had a handful of games over 5 years as our midfield lynchpin....

Where is the realism?

[oracle]

What evidence is there is to support GN outperforming Skocic as coach? 😂
If CQ does not have a chance at coming, I will full on support Skocic and not convinced anyone else in Iran can do a better job than him

Amir galenoie WITH ALL HIS EXPERIENCE
and chip over his shoulder regarding 2007
AND THIS IS IMPORTENT PART majority of our players
Maybe all RESPECT Glenoie.
and in game of win at any cost
Galenoie will motivate the players more against teams in our group.and if ever gone go persian coach this is the time and he can maybe win Asian cup in 2023 ,ONLY PERSIAN COACHES HAS EVER WON ASIAN CUP
And if we ever want Persian coach amir galenoie is the it.
I hate galenoie but I RESPECT HIM.

[PersianLion80]

Amir galenoie WITH ALL HIS EXPERIENCE
and chip over his shoulder regarding 2007
AND THIS IS IMPORTENT PART majority of our players
Maybe all RESPECT Glenoie.
and in game of win at any cost
Galenoie will motivate the players more against teams in our group.and if ever gone go persian coach this is the time and he can maybe win Asian cup in 2023 ,ONLY PERSIAN COACHES HAS EVER WON ASIAN CUP
And if we ever want Persian coach amir galenoie is the it.
I hate galenoie but I RESPECT HIM.

Hahahaha some bisavad javad as coach [emoji1787][emoji23]


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[mahestan]

Disagree. Also, putting things in large font and red doesn't make your statement more salient.
Repeat: Realism/rationalism is important and thinking Iran has the depth to perform attacking football in a world cup against teams with players throughout elite European leagues is horribly, terribly, ridiculously, horrendously, terrifyingly mistaken.
Some members have their head in a utopian dream...

You accuse that some members have their head in a utopian dream based on criticizing counter attack football, while omitting the other utopian dreamers who think CQ will come back to coach Iran... Even if CQ wanted to come back, neither IFF or the Iranian government is going to allow it.

You aren't the coach, I'm not the coach, Skocic is the coach, and people flipping him off in the stadium is freaking pathetic.

[PersianLion80]

You accuse that some members have their head in a utopian dream based on criticizing counter attack football, while omitting the other utopian dreamers who think CQ will come back to coach Iran... Even if CQ wanted to come back, neither IFF or the Iranian government is going to allow it.

You aren't the coach, I'm not the coach, Skocic is the coach, and having people flip him off in the stadium is freaking pathetic.

We have to accept the fact-at best this will resemble the 2006 World Cup—this team is not getting any tactics from sko and their fitness is not being worked on..to name a few problems

[taremiscores]

Fitness is going to be even more key - as Infantino is pondering on making the matches, 100 minutes?

[Farzadfarhangni]

We have to accept the fact-at best this will resemble the 2006 World Cup—this team is not getting any tactics from sko and their fitness is not being worked on..to name a few problems

we have to accept a fact or an opinion??? That is your opinion. Were is the fact?