یالاه یالاه کارلوس کیروش و میخایم یالاه.WE NEED CQ ASAP TO RETURN asap

[PersianLion80]

we have to accept a fact or an opinion??? That is your opinion. Were is the fact?

Correction in my opinion…

[Doctor DOOM]

Disagree. Also, putting things in large font and red doesn't make your statement more salient.
Repeat: Realism/rationalism is important and thinking Iran has the depth to perform attacking football in a world cup against teams with players throughout elite European leagues is horribly, terribly, ridiculously, horrendously, terrifyingly mistaken.
Some members have their head in a utopian dream...

Actually my post says: IF we ever hope to advance from the group, it can only be done by scoring goals against world's biggest teams. which means we have to attack"
it doesnt say we have the depth on par with many of those teams. But then again we do have a few who do score against some really good oppositions during their day jobs.
It also says if we rely on or base our strategy on defense, chances are we're not going to get anywhere near advancing from the group. becoz sadly a 0-0 draw gets only 1 point. while a win where we actually attack to score goals, gets 3.


Not a utopian dream.
but since everyone is talking about hoping to advance, the ONLY way we can is through punching above our weight.
as the saying goes: WHO DARES, WINS
or
NOTHING VENTURED, NOTHING GAINED


however, if we are more concerned with a respectful showing and avoiding getting thrashed like the 8-0'ers. Then by all means, lets opt for an ultra-defensive approach like CQ's.
Afterall Argies suffered to score a goal on us. Same with the spanish & nigerians.
Sure.
But then we should stop talking about "Advancing from the group" altogether. shall we?

we cant have it both ways.

[Doctor DOOM]

Playing bezan ziresh football against some pretty under-par Persian Gulf nations and relying on moments of magic from either Taremi or Azmoun isn't going to cut it in a world cup.
Teams like Bosnia and Morocco had players spread throughout the whole of Europe, Bosnia had a whole Bundesliga defence line in 2014, and star players from Serie A and the Premier League.
The issue is that fans don't appreciate the gulf at the moment, and hence can't process the discipline that CQ instilled in TM, which based on the last few games I've seen has all but disappeared.
The key point is that we are still getting fans saying the likes of this:

I mean, where do you start when the interpretation of Iran's pool of talent is so far out of the ballpark. Take Senegal who have such a depth in defence and midfield (ignore their goalkeeper and forwards) - whereas we have to rely on a guy who has barely had a handful of games over 5 years as our midfield lynchpin....
Where is the realism?

Thank you for bringing this up.
I stand by what I said.
I said I dont think we're behind most of these teams (as the subject was on AFCON. Not just one team which you selected [senegal]. I wouldnt say "most of these teams" if I were referring to one or two teams only).
I still say Iran is right up there talent-wise with some of the best African teams.
It's a different matter that their talent is cultivated by euro leagues far more than ours.
gun to the head, I'd say maybe the very top 2-3 african teams have greater pool of talent than ours.


It's not correct to misquote or mis-read someone's words to suit our views.

[Doctor DOOM]

Fitness is going to be even more key - as Infantino is pondering on making the matches, 100 minutes?

this bald f**k is the bloody anti-christ of football.

from the first day he took office, he's been busy destroying the game and WC and all about it.
as if the bottom-line of money is all that is to be considered. not the actual sport!!!

[O-ZoNe]

this bald f**k is the bloody anti-christ of football.

from the first day he took office, he's been busy destroying the game and WC and all about it.
as if the bottom-line of money is all that is to be considered. not the actual sport!!!

Fifa denied these rumors. 90 min it is.

https://www.barrons.com/news/fifa-sa...es-01649269207

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[DR Strangemoosh]

We have to accept the fact-at best this will resemble the 2006 World Cup—this team is not getting any tactics from sko and their fitness is not being worked on..to name a few problems

That time, many of us were screaming that things weren't right from multiple perspectives, but were shouted down by the Branko obsessives. It was the worst world cup experience.

Same thing is repeating itself

[Nokhodi]

That time, many of us were screaming that things weren't right from multiple perspectives, but were shouted down by the Branko obsessives. It was the worst world cup experience.

Same thing is repeating itself

Becuase the Branko haters were focused on stupid things like "Arash Borhani should start", instead of our whole team is coming off injuries (Kia, Hasehmian, Karimi and Zandi).
The only thing we all agreed on though was that Mirzapour was a horrible goalie, but he refused to budge on that.

[Keshwardoost]

Becuase the Branko haters were focused on stupid things like "Arash Borhani should start", instead of our whole team is coming off injuries (Kia, Hasehmian, Karimi and Zandi).
The only thing we all agreed on though was that Mirzapour was a horrible goalie, but he refused to budge on that.

And still Mirzapour was so much better than Talebloo and the other guy.. first time we got a good goalie un my memoryspan was first with Rahmati and then Ahmadi who should have got to play the world cup games.. we are so lucky to have Beira today, and Amir and Niazmand aswell.

[Nokhodi]

And still Mirzapour was so much better than Talebloo and the other guy.. first time we got a good goalie un my memoryspan was first with Rahmati and then Ahmadi who should have got to play the world cup games.. we are so lucky to have Beira today, and Amir and Niazmand aswell.

Yap, we had a huge gap between Abedzadeh and Beiranvand where we didn't have a good all round goalie.

For example Tabatabei was a great shot stopper, but really bad on crosses.
Rahmati the same.
Mirzapour wasn't good at crosses either, but he also was one of the poorest kickers and distributors of the ball I've ever seen at that level.

Beiranvand was the first goalie in a long time who was compe

[DR Strangemoosh]

Becuase the Branko haters were focused on stupid things like "Arash Borhani should start", instead of our whole team is coming off injuries (Kia, Hasehmian, Karimi and Zandi).
The only thing we all agreed on though was that Mirzapour was a horrible goalie, but he refused to budge on that.

Ummmm... I think just not having Daei start every game as sole striker with Hashemian pushed to the wing... Or not inviting the 22 year old IPL player of the year because of oghdeh due to a failed Dynamo Zagreb move... ($$)

We had a lot of good young players whose progression was stalled massively. Daei wasn't a great coach but at least he brought youngsters through and trusted in them...

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[Nokhodi]

Ummmm... I think just not having Daei start every game as sole striker with Hashemian pushed to the wing... Or not inviting the 22 year old IPL player of the year because of oghdeh due to a failed Dynamo Zagreb move... ($$)
We had a lot of good young players whose progression was stalled massively. Daei wasn't a great coach but at least he brought youngsters through and trusted in them...
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Mobali was not the solution.
He didn't like him for whatever reason. We had Nekounam and Teymourian as DMs, Kia and Zandi on the wings, and Karimi as the playmaker. Where would
In the Swiss camp Branko was using Teymourian, Jabbari and Navidkia as starting midfielders, but obviously the latter two were both injured and couldn't do it. Branko did try young players. He loved Daei though and I agree he shouldn't have been starting.
On top of all this we had a poisonous TM camp, Daei and his group, Karimi and his group, and then neutrals (led by Kia).
Furthermore, even with all that crap, what really f***ed us in the Mexico game was a horrible goal kick by Mirzapour.

And I've disagreed with TM being the place for a player to progress. Your job in TM is to show up and be your best.
Guys like Mobali, Kazaemian, Madanchi and many more made their priorities clear when they moved to Dubai at young ages to hang out in malls.

[DR Strangemoosh]

And I've disagreed with TM being the place for a player to progress. Your job in TM is to show up and be your best.
Guys like Mobali, Kazaemian, Madanchi and many more made their priorities clear when they moved to Dubai at young ages to hang out in malls.

What is your view on Mehdi Taremi, then? When 90% on this forum said he should not be starting for TM before or after he moved to Persian Gulf?

[DR Strangemoosh]

Mobali was not the solution.
He didn't like him for whatever reason.

He didn't just not like him, he loved him at one point very shortly before not inviting him to TM after he was the best player in Iran's domestic league. That "whatever reason" is the key

[Nokhodi]

What is your view on Mehdi Taremi, then? When 90% on this forum said he should not be starting for TM before or after he moved to Persian Gulf?

I was always a Taremi fan - you can go look at post history if you're bored enough I wanted him playing even when he was banned from football for his f*** up in Turkey.

To me he is a generational player.

[DR Strangemoosh]

On top of all this we had a poisonous TM camp, Daei and his group, Karimi and his group, and then neutrals (led by Kia).

Good coach sorts that out. If Rahmati is going to be a dick, even if he is the best keeper (at the time), he is not invited. Simple as that. That's where having a coach who isn't a yes man helps. Having so many other parties and agents around TM doesn't help.

The only player Ivankovic excluded was one of the most humble and least poisonous guys at the time, who we really needed (and thankfully came back at the most important time) - Vahid.