یالاه یالاه کارلوس کیروش و میخایم یالاه.WE NEED CQ ASAP TO RETURN asap

[Leicester City]

He had to go. He didn’t play Emam Ashour (our best and most creative midfielder) and persisted with Elsulaya and Elneny in midfield. We would have seen different results for sure with just that one change. You play your best players in their best positions. CQ seems to not understand this.

In the return leg against Senegal when we were down to our 4th and 5th choice CBs, he had the option between 3 CBs and chose one that barley plays for his club over one that does. We need a manager that actually knows his players.

Playing our best CM as RB twice when he’s never played there in his career warrants the sack alone.

Did you like Héctor Cúper better? What is the consensus in Eygpt?

[diz]

[Leicester City]

📑 news | Portuguese coach Carlos Queiroz receives 4 training offers after his departure from the Egyptian national team:
• Iran 🇮🇷
• Australia 🇦🇺
• Iraq 🇮🇶
• Tunisia 🇹🇳

[taremiscores]

We don't dream in IR Iran ...

IFF publicly denied it anyway. If I am CQ, if Iran is not on the table, I go to Tunisia (World Cup bound), after that - Australia.

[Abtin]

^^^ Well, it was the same in Iran. He cared way more for Iranian football, our national team and the players than the federation and people running it/ behind the scenes...

[milad_b]

He had to go. He didn’t play Emam Ashour (our best and most creative midfielder) and persisted with Elsulaya and Elneny in midfield. We would have seen different results for sure with just that one change. You play your best players in their best positions. CQ seems to not understand this.

In the return leg against Senegal when we were down to our 4th and 5th choice CBs, he had the option between 3 CBs and chose one that barley plays for his club over one that does. We need a manager that actually knows his players.

Playing our best CM as RB twice when he’s never played there in his career warrants the sack alone.

Its funny that we are getting these kind of criticism towards our Coach Skocic. The truth is that Us fans have no idea whats going on inside the team but one thing for sure is that managers have plans and tactics for every single players their use. Emam Ashour was invited by CQ himselfe so he must've had plans for him in different position. CQ did exactly the same thing for us (using players out of their position) and it worked perfectly.

The truth is that senegal is head and shoulders above egypt and you guys should be proud that you lost in an unfair penalty shootout . Your players should've dropped on the floor pretending to have eye injury from the lasers so the ref could've stopped the game.

I think if you had any other coach the game would've ended by 2-3 goals for senegal.

[DR Strangemoosh]

Its funny that we are getting these kind of criticism towards our Coach Skocic. The truth is that Us fans have no idea whats going on inside the team but one thing for sure is that managers have plans and tactics for every single players their use. Emam Ashour was invited by CQ himselfe so he must've had plans for him in different position. CQ did exactly the same thing for us (using players out of their position) and it worked perfectly.
The truth is that senegal is head and shoulders above egypt and you guys should be proud that you lost in an unfair penalty shootout . Your players should've dropped on the floor pretending to have eye injury from the lasers so the ref could've stopped the game.
I think if you had any other coach the game would've ended by 2-3 goals for senegal.

I can see exactly the same kinds of debates amongst Egypt fans on twitter as Iran fans.

Again, realism is the issue.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/agyp...te/verein/3672
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/sene...te/verein/3499

A lot of Egypt fans may have similar delusions to some of our own fans here about our squad's depth outside the key players. But look at the value of Egypt's second best player, equivalent in value to Senegal's 11th best... Transfer value aside, we are talking about ~5 times more elite european club players. I mean surely this must penetrate to the fans, whether Iran or Egypt..., right?

[DR Strangemoosh]

You keep saying the Skocic hate is unreal but you've literally commented on every single thing CQ-related since he's left despite saying that the book on CQ is closed and that we should "move on".
When it's Copa America, you're following Columbia. When it's AFCON or WCQ, it's Egypt you're monitoring most closely. When his tenure with Egypt ended, you're forecasting his next potential landing spot. And then you still try to portray his results with Egypt as a failure despite:
1. The fans acknowledging what he did with them in a short time.
2. The Federation's own willingness to continue with CQ. Fallout was over duration since both sides clearly had different ideas.


You don't like CQ, we get it. But don't say you've moved on or are being fair in your treatment of the manager when you were crucifying him even when he was our manager.

It's so surreal, isn't it? The obsession, the CQ hate is unreal...

And then posting something like this without a hint of irony...

Exactly. Same thing with Skocic. We don't appreciate what he has done and earned for us

I don't get it, I really don't....

[kaebi kabab]

There is no denying that Skocic has attended more league games than any other TM coach before. Perhaps we have to look inward a bit and question why would our fans cheer for CQ in front of him and our members post a middle finger being shown to him. The fact that he is discouraged from attending league games is our fans' behavior. I think he has earned himself a day of not going to the stadium and reviewing the tape later himself without any middle fingers shown to him.

He is staying in Iran unlike most predicted here that he would run back to Croatia right after the Lebanon game.

he doesnt even have a wyscout account to watch at home mate... comon

[taremiscores]

[ramingeles2000]

all these statements are true:

1 - skocic did his absolute best and accomplished the task he was given. it wasn't an easy one, because we was truly set up to fail.

2 - skocic will be one of the most inexperienced coaches at the world cup. if it wasn't for the Wilmots fiasco and IFF's desperation, his career cap would have been that of a moderately successful IPL/asian club coach. totally respectable.

3 - replacing skocic at this juncture is very risky. don't be fooled by the 6 months we have to prep - because of nations league, IFF incompetence, etc., we are likely about to endure a very weak WC prep in terms of friendlies and camps. This gives a new coach very little time to adapt.

4 - the one replacement that presents the least risk is CQ, because of his familiarity with TM and Iran.

5 - CQ at the helm gives Iran a better chance of achieving results at this WC than w/ Skocic. Some fans may not like how those results are achieved, but it's true. If you don't agree with this statement, we have nothing to discuss.

Most fans here aren't plainly anti-CQ or pro-Sko so let's not make it about that. I think some are just annoyed by this notion of "living in the past", and think we should let CQ go and move on. They also factor in his controversial style of coaching (both his attitude and actual tactics) and are excited by the prospect of playing a more open style at the world cup. Or, they don't believe that CQ will actually come back, so why entertain it? they don't want to participate in the rumor mill and want to be supportive of Sko because they don't want to create hashiyeh around TM. All this is valid.

The other camp aren't CQ fanboys - they just recognize that skocic's results are deceptive, and that our performances were inferior compared to the 2018 WCQ campaign. So, if there's a chance to get CQ, you do it.

Like i've said - IFF should either definitely say "absolutely not we are 110% behind Sko and he'll be our coach in the WC" or make a choice fast. I'd bet anything that the CQ option's being discussed, though.

[Ghermez Agha]

He had to go. He didn’t play Emam Ashour (our best and most creative midfielder) and persisted with Elsulaya and Elneny in midfield. We would have seen different results for sure with just that one change. You play your best players in their best positions. CQ seems to not understand this.

In the return leg against Senegal when we were down to our 4th and 5th choice CBs, he had the option between 3 CBs and chose one that barley plays for his club over one that does. We need a manager that actually knows his players.

Playing our best CM as RB twice when he’s never played there in his career warrants the sack alone.

What about the fact that you went toe to toe with a team that has 10x the strength and quality egypt does? No disrespect intended but you can’t tell me that you have 5-6 players on the level of Mane, Koulibaly, Diallo, Gueye, Sarr, etc.

Similarly to Iranians, it seems like Egyptians let their national pride and history play a role clouding reality of the circumstances their team is in

[ben.walken]

CQ did exactly the same thing for us (using players out of their position) and it worked perfectly.

A good example of that is Pouraliganji and Pooladi, both were central midfielders but CQ shocked us by selecting them in the squad and then playing them as CB and LB. Those two became key players until PAG's injury and military issues with Pooladi.

The truth is that senegal is head and shoulders above egypt

I agree! Anything but Senegal's win would have been a shocker. In fact, based on quality of players I think Egypt have even over-performed in the African Cup and had no business to be in the finals.

[O-ZoNe]

And then posting something like this without a hint of irony...



I don't get it, I really don't....

Irony if you look at the name of this thread maybe then you will get it. If that's not enough look at the main page and see how many anti skocic threads there are. Members using middle finger pic of skocic as avatars then maybe you will get it.

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[PSGman#19]

What about the fact that you went toe to toe with a team that has 10x the strength and quality egypt does? No disrespect intended but you can’t tell me that you have 5-6 players on the level of Mane, Koulibaly, Diallo, Gueye, Sarr, etc.

Similarly to Iranians, it seems like Egyptians let their national pride and history play a role clouding reality of the circumstances their team is in

Since when Diallo and gueye are good players?