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هرگاه شما بازیکنی دیدید که از نظر تکنیک و قدرت بدنی فوق العاده است و همیشه یکسان است و تحت هیچ شرایط هیچ افتی ندارد شما یک فوق ستاره پیدا کرده اید در غیر اینصورت شما به یک بازیکن معمولی
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Were those the starting odds? If not then it also depends on how much money is put on a team to win - so for example if big stakes were put on Argentina then that may cause their odds to lower. You also find some leeway is given to certain countries geographically (guessing Diz used an American betting site) and hence why Canada’s odds are lower than what they probably should be.
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Originally posted by Roozbeh-G2006 View Postsorry never really gambled and don't know much about odds. But It means we are pretty weak in this lot.
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Originally posted by daggerhashimoto View PostSorry, I didn't mean gambling odds, although I'm about to put some money on Iran 10 to 1 underdog against Angland. I was simply saying what happened in the past has nothing to do with now.هرگاه شما بازیکنی دیدید که از نظر تکنیک و قدرت بدنی فوق العاده است و همیشه یکسان است و تحت هیچ شرایط هیچ افتی ندارد شما یک فوق ستاره پیدا کرده اید در غیر اینصورت شما به یک بازیکن معمولی
نگاه میکنید.
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Originally posted by Roozbeh-G2006 View PostThe odds are stacked against us any way you look at it. We are the underdog. But as TM fans we hope/wish/pray to God, universe, Satan or whatever that we advance to the next round. And despite my own principles on never gambling I will bet and put money on Iran beating Angaland too. Most likely lose my tenner. But it is more like as a faithful fan's gesture.
England, ranked number 5 in the world, just lost to Hungary, the 40th team on the Fifa list. Prior to the games against Argentina, Spain, and Portugal, a lot of fans had misgivings about Iran's chances as well. Before the game, a friend of mine characterized the face off against Argentina as a possible comedy show. Similar feeling were expressed about matchups against other top-quality teams. But they all turned out to be incorrect.
The sense of apprehension was misguided because, historically, Iran has played superbly against high quality opponents and it will continue to do so, even if it turns out to be inadequately prepared. Also, let's not forget that, because of of its history and the current political developments, the team will undoubtedly face all three opponents emotionally charged, entering the competition with tremendous poise and confidence. Add to that the sense of indignation the players must be feeling because of all the political obstacles preventing them from making ample preparations, which should further motivate the them to excel. But that's just another topic.
As Afshin Ghotbi stated, this is the "golden age" of Iranian soccer, and I believe the players will rise to the ocassion. They came very close to advancing to the second round of the tournament four years ago, and major players on the team will be going into the competition with invaluable World Cup experience--more so than Wales, Ukraine, or the U.S.
I just have a gut feeling Skocic will finally lead the team to the knock-out stage in Qatar.
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Originally posted by orbicular View PostThe odds might be stacked against us, but they stictly have to do with resources, planning, and execution. Iran is just as talented as many other teams and, in soccer, especially at that stage, anything can happen.
England, ranked number 5 in the world, just lost to Hungary, the 40th team on the Fifa list. Prior to the games against Argentina, Spain, and Portugal, a lot of fans had misgivings about Iran's chances as well. Before the game, a friend of mine characterized the face off against Argentina as a possible comedy show. Similar feeling were expressed about matchups against other top-quality teams. But they all turned out to be incorrect.
The sense of apprehension was misguided because, historically, Iran has played superbly against high quality opponents and it will continue to do so, even if it turns out to be inadequately prepared. Also, let's not forget that, because of of its history and the current political developments, the team will undoubtedly face all three opponents emotionally charged, entering the competition with tremendous poise and confidence. Add to that the sense of indignation the players must be feeling because of all the political obstacles preventing them from making ample preparations, which should further motivate the them to excel. But that's just another topic.
As Afshin Ghotbi stated, this is the "golden age" of Iranian soccer, and I believe the players will rise to the ocassion. They came very close to advancing to the second round of the tournament four years ago, and major players on the team will be going into the competition with invaluable World Cup experience--more so than Wales, Ukraine, or the U.S.
I just have a nagging feeling Skocic will finally lead the team to the knock-out stage in Qatar.
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Originally posted by orbicular View PostThe odds might be stacked against us, but they stictly have to do with resources, planning, and execution. Iran is just as talented as many other teams and, in soccer, especially at that stage, anything can happen.
England, ranked number 5 in the world, just lost to Hungary, the 40th team on the Fifa list. Prior to the games against Argentina, Spain, and Portugal, a lot of fans had misgivings about Iran's chances as well. Before the game, a friend of mine characterized the face off against Argentina as a possible comedy show. Similar feeling were expressed about matchups against other top-quality teams. But they all turned out to be incorrect.
The sense of apprehension was misguided because, historically, Iran has played superbly against high quality opponents and it will continue to do so, even if it turns out to be inadequately prepared. Also, let's not forget that, because of of its history and the current political developments, the team will undoubtedly face all three opponents emotionally charged, entering the competition with tremendous poise and confidence. Add to that the sense of indignation the players must be feeling because of all the political obstacles preventing them from making ample preparations, which should further motivate the them to excel. But that's just another topic.
As Afshin Ghotbi stated, this is the "golden age" of Iranian soccer, and I believe the players will rise to the ocassion. They came very close to advancing to the second round of the tournament four years ago, and major players on the team will be going into the competition with invaluable World Cup experience--more so than Wales, Ukraine, or the U.S.
I just have a nagging feeling Skocic will finally lead the team to the knock-out stage in Qatar.
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Originally posted by milad_b View PostI dono about you guys but englad's loss in todays match actually scares me. Now they work on their weakness and work harder for WC.
Obviously we're not at the level of these other euro teams, but with the right training, preparation, and attitude, any opponent can be defeated or held to a stalemate.
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Originally posted by diz View PostI actually saw it another way: that the enshrined powerhouses cake-walking through the group stage is a fallacy. We saw it with Belgium against Netherlands, we saw it with France against Denmark, and we saw it with England against Hungry.
Obviously we're not at the level of these other euro teams, but with the right training, preparation, and attitude, any opponent can be defeated or held to a stalemate.
I saw interview with one of their players and he basically said we need to go and work hard on our weakness. He said we will work harder to get out of the group. <-- now this is something i wasn't looking for.
I rather seem them saying stuff like this: " we won the game, we will now concentrate on next game and train for that etc..". <-- thats something i'm looking for to see.
If they would've comfortably won the match against hungry they would go back home thinking they are the best and continue with the normal daily training...... However now shit got serious for them.
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