Clarification on skocic vs CQ misinformation..

[a_m]

First of all I would like to make this point yes I like Carlos


1. because he was very strict especially on the IFF he was able to get things from them that normally no coach could get ex , (he was able to build a whole training facility dedicated to the team melli which is Pec)


2. he made sure the best players were always in the team based on the performance , he showed no
favoritism irregardless of what team you played on only the best fittest most ready players were on the team


3. He conducted himself in a very professional manner and the performances that we put on during the World Cup , Helped for Iran to gain respect in the international world.


I respect skocic and I have no problem with him with his tactics with his knowledge with his ability.
the only thing that worries me is his influence to be able to get the best preparation possible for the team from the IFF.


Knowing that there is only seven months left and that most World Cup bound teams have set up their Friendly’s and organized their camps we are slowly falling behind like always without a plan in place or any kind of idea of where we are going.


It just bothers me that our national team and the players and the fans all deserve much better we don’t deserve someone who will just settle for whatever they give him

he will not go in there and say I need 4 camps seven Friendly’s you need to shut down the league for five months so I can prepare this team well. that is the only thing that is worrisome about him as a coach.


If Skocic fights for his right and the team and the fans and the players of course I will support him , and hope the team does well in the World Cup.

[Abtin]

well, as Arya from GolBezan said in a podcast, Sko is a yes-man, what IFF wanted to bring in after the CQ era. so they got what they wanted..

[Babak agha]

OMG again with the CQ. People make it sound like Iran didn't know what football was before him. "He put Iran on the International map".

Iran had 3 players that played for Bayern before CQ.. how many played for Bayern or other top team after CQ?

Please stop it. Wether you like Skocic or not, CQ is not the answer. We had him for 8 years that's more than enough.

[O-ZoNe]

well, as Arya from GolBezan said in a podcast, Sko is a yes-man, what IFF wanted to bring in after the CQ era. so they got what they wanted..

And did Arya from Gol Bezan submit any evidence of him being a yes man? Curious to see what sanad or madrak Arya has. Not sure very many Yes Men would state second round of WC is the teams goal. Yes men would more likely state we are happy to be here and participate...

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[a_m]

“””Iran had 3 players that played for Bayern before CQ.. how many played for Bayern or other top team after CQ?

Please stop it. Wether you like Skocic or not, CQ is not the answer. We had him for 8 years that's more than enough”””

Neither of the players were true starters, That doesn’t makes us any better or worse , players playing in a big club is all individual talent …

“””And did Arya from Gol Bezan submit any evidence of him being a yes man? Curious to see what sanad or madrak Arya has. Not sure very many Yes Men would state second round of WC is the teams goal. Yes men would more likely state we are happy to be here and participate...”””

Are you insane bro mostly everyone even inside of Iran has come to the conclusion that skocic is a YES MAN , I doesn’t take allot to notice that he is …

[kaebi kabab]

go and see the facilities TM trained in during the away camps of WCQ and see for yourself if Sko is a yes man...

[peiman92]

OMG again with the CQ. People make it sound like Iran didn't know what football was before him. "He put Iran on the International map".

Iran had 3 players that played for Bayern before CQ.. how many played for Bayern or other top team after CQ?

Please stop it. Wether you like Skocic or not, CQ is not the answer. We had him for 8 years that's more than enough.

You're right, he didn't put Iran on the international map.
He put Iran back on the international map.

When compared to Skocic, CQ will always be the answer.

[DR Strangemoosh]

OMG again with the CQ. People make it sound like Iran didn't know what football was before him. "He put Iran on the International map".

He put Iran back in people's minds. Anyone who spoke to pundits or people from other countries at the world cups could see that

Iran had 3 players that played for Bayern before CQ.. how many played for Bayern or other top team after CQ?

Were they playing for Bayern right before CQ took over? The team was in the absolute wilderness.

We had him for 8 years that's more than enough.

If we can't appreciate things - simply how the guy impacted & revolutionalised our football, then we are doomed to failure again and again.

[Roozbeh-G2006]

Of course "It's Iranian men, halleluiah" is international respect. Are you sure this "international respect" isn't an imaginary or wishful thinking one? Just because we drew against Portugal - a team that CQ knew too well and beating Moracco by own goal in the dying seconds does not translate into a team that is worthy of international respect. When you play possession and attacking football then you earn international respect. parking the bus and playing anti-football earns international mockery. "It's Iranian men, halleluiah" thanks to CQ.

[DR Strangemoosh]

Of course "It's Iranian men, halleluiah" is international respect. Are you sure this "international respect" isn't an imaginary or wishful thinking one? Just because we drew against Portugal - a team that CQ knew too well and beating Moracco by own goal in the dying seconds does not translate into a team that is worthy of international respect. When you play possession and attacking football then you earn international respect. parking the bus and playing anti-football earns international mockery. "It's Iranian men, halleluiah" thanks to CQ.

Losing 5-0 or 8-0 is probably more of a respect-buster than getting decent results with a skeletal core against Argentina, Spain, Portugal, Morocco, Bosnia.

Being realistic or pragmatic is not a bad thing. Queiroz did at least get us on the map for our world cup performances.

Regarding a tabloid headline - Iranian players are unknown in England, with players like Dejagha, Ando etc... barely registering. So we are considered much less well known than teams like S Korea as 90% of English fans aren't aware of us having any continental or world class players (eg how Hakimi, Ziyech etc... are viewed for Morocco) and hence we are genuinely seen as a lucky draw for that country in particular.

[O-ZoNe]

Losing 5-0 or 8-0 is probably more of a respect-buster than getting decent results with a skeletal core against Argentina, Spain, Portugal, Morocco, Bosnia.

Being realistic or pragmatic is not a bad thing. Queiroz did at least get us on the map for our world cup performances.

Regarding a tabloid headline - Iranian players are unknown in England, with players like Dejagha, Ando etc... barely registering. So we are considered much less well known than teams like S Korea as 90% of English fans aren't aware of us having any continental or world class players (eg how Hakimi, Ziyech etc... are viewed for Morocco) and hence we are genuinely seen as a lucky draw for that country in particular.

Why do we play football? To participate? To draw? To lose? No! We play To win as it is a competition. Cq tactics gave us a chance not to lose but also robbed us of any chance of winning. If the Morocco own goal didn't happen we wouldn't even be talking about CQ right now. Fact is anyone who understands football knows you cannot win a match without attacking. At a minimum you must create more than 1 or 2 opportunities a match to win on a regular basis. In order to do this you have to have better than all time record low possession numbers in WCs!

A loss is a loss whether it is 1-0 or 100-0. I would rather lose a match 10-0 and win the next two and advance rather than have a respectable outing without a major defeat. Maximize your chances. We play football to win...period.

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[Roozbeh-G2006]

Losing 5-0 or 8-0 is probably more of a respect-buster than getting decent results with a skeletal core against Argentina, Spain, Portugal, Morocco, Bosnia.

Being realistic or pragmatic is not a bad thing. Queiroz did at least get us on the map for our world cup performances.

Regarding a tabloid headline - Iranian players are unknown in England, with players like Dejagha, Ando etc... barely registering. So we are considered much less well known than teams like S Korea as 90% of English fans aren't aware of us having any continental or world class players (eg how Hakimi, Ziyech etc... are viewed for Morocco) and hence we are genuinely seen as a lucky draw for that country in particular.

With all due respect, you got it all wrong mate. We have never lost 5-0 or 8-0. Japan and SK are well respected not because of their players in Europe, because they play football, possession attacking football.

[DR Strangemoosh]

With all due respect, you got it all wrong mate. We have never lost 5-0 or 8-0. Japan and SK are well respected not because of their players in Europe, because they play football, possession attacking football.

With perhaps very slightly less respect, you didn't get my point.

I was giving the example of Saudi Arabia's world cup results as a team which goes out playing what you call possession attacking football to impress the fans and which backfired spectacularly at two world cups. Humiliating.

You give the example of teams like Japan which has over a dozen high level central midfielders, deep lying playmakers whereas we have hardly any. In central midfield we have to rely on players who are so far out of shape or form..., and since Nekounam we have not had a single decent deep lying playmaker.

Japan has players who are no way near their national team playing regularly at high level - take Celtic's three Japanese players for example.

We have such a dearth of players in these key positions , even compared to teams ranked well below us and yet people want us to play possession attacking football in the fricking world cup. Akheh, realism and pragmatism, ham khoob chiziyeh ffs....

This is why people still don't get how much we over performed in WC with Queiroz. Maybe studying Japan's A, B and C squads will make the penny drop.

[O-ZoNe]

With perhaps very slightly less respect, you didn't get my point.

I was giving the example of Saudi Arabia's world cup results as a team which goes out playing what you call possession attacking football. Humiliating.

You give the example of teams like Japan which has over a dozen high level central midfielders, deep lying playmakers whereas we have hardly any. Again, realism and pragmatism ham khoob chiziyeh ffs....

How many players does Saudi have in Holland, England, Portugal, Belgium, Spain, and Germany right now?

Also doubt anyone could say KSA went all out attacking against Germany. From what I recall they looked like a grade school team who couldn't even blow a kiss towards the ball and were destroyed on the pitch at every opportunity. That was not football but a murder scene! Lol I remember they even made several foul throw ins!

Optimism and belief is not a bad thing either mate

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[Ali.Karimi79]

What's the point of this useless discussion? Skocic will be our coach @ the world cup whether you like it or not.
Will you complain and whine till eternity? Or is it some ego trip and you wish TM to fail just to come here and say "didi goftam"?!

Just aksept and foloo baba!

TM needs support, capiche?