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    Originally posted by milad_b View Post
    Was this the main reason ? or playing for SS against naft was part of it too?

    If 5 players didn't do the tasks then this could simply be a totall mis understanding? Maybe they weren't informed by anyone ???
    Estili said Disciplinary decision regarding not attending TM camp as were told.

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      I feel like there could have been a better way to handle this and they chose the most extreme option, especially considering the situation.

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        TM update:

        According to Jamaat /IFF


        *-Talks with Uruguay has been good but no contract yet

        *-No decision if 5 blue players will be invited for September camp
        *-TM is waiting for Qatar visa
        *-Vahid joined Training camp
        Last edited by St_Mark; 05-31-2022, 01:32 AM.

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          Originally posted by Leicester City View Post
          I feel like there could have been a better way to handle this and they chose the most extreme option, especially considering the situation.
          This was the best time for skocic to hit the nail on the head for any disciplnary actions, so players start recognising who is in charge.

          And also I feel there is more into this issue. They (majidi) must've done something really really out of order to make skocic boil so hard. We've known skocic for being soft on players and thats why i think there is more details behind the scene .

          Also I feel like this is the best time to do it because he can't bring hashie for team melli in 5 months time. The hashie created now will be forgotten in 6 months time so therefor this was the best time to take disciplinary actions .

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            Hosseini replaced Kananizadegan

            Kananizadeghan was prevented from joining TM camp.

            MF ,28 years 172 CM

            Season Age Squad MP Starts Min 90s Gls Ast
            2020-2021 26 Aluminium Arak 28 26 2,381 26.5 6 2
            2021-2022 27 Mes Rafsanjan 27 27 2,369 26.3 2 2
            2 Seasons 2 Clubs 55 53 4,750 52.8 8 4
            Last edited by St_Mark; 05-31-2022, 01:30 AM.

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              Okay now i've read the full story :

              + Skocic wanted all players to join the camp on monday
              + Skocic did not agree with 5 ss players joining SS in their last game
              + Because it was not fifa day SS had control over the players and they insisted for players to be part of the SS celebration
              + Skocic agreed for players to join the celebration
              + Esteghlal agreed to send players to team melli camp after their celebration
              + Esteghlal used those players in the line up
              + Skocic was mad and when players tried to join the camp skocic rejected them.

              Why would majidi start with his best players in a pointless match against a weak ass IPL team?

              source: https://www.varzesh3.com/news/182704...AF%D9%86%D8%AF

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                Originally posted by milad_b View Post
                This was the best time for skocic to hit the nail on the head for any disciplnary actions, so players start recognising who is in charge.

                And also I feel there is more into this issue. They (majidi) must've done something really really out of order to make skocic boil so hard. We've known skocic for being soft on players and thats why i think there is more details behind the scene .

                Also I feel like this is the best time to do it because he can't bring hashie for team melli in 5 months time. The hashie created now will be forgotten in 6 months time so therefor this was the best time to take disciplinary actions .
                Majidi is only going to use this to further his propaganda.

                My point is: Esteghlal just won the league and with those 5 players being dropped, Majidi will use this to advance his propaganda and claim there is a conspiracy against him when Esteghlal just won the league and not a single Esteghlal player will be in the list.

                As it stands, Esteghlal fans are cussing out Skocic on social media for this decision.

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                  Let's see what this dallal Skocic is up to.
                  IF he invites them to the next camp he can go f himself.
                  Esteghlal 💙💙

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                    The amount of Hasheeye this is going to cause man. It will be PP mafia Vs CQ, except much worse.

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                      All these 5 players are reserve players and very fortunate to be invited to Tm and chance to be part of WC squad if selected. a lifetime dreams.
                      They have been Invited to attend TM training camp for specific date and if for any reason decide not to go or have excuses, they should have contacted TM coach or Manager for clarification or guidance. Noe of them did
                      They were all into Championship game and celebrations.... TM could wait attitude.
                      Best is so quickly realised their mistake and do all they must to be considered for Next training camp. and have more respect for NT. It's not about Sko but respect of NT.

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                        Originally posted by St_Mark View Post
                        All these 5 players are reserve players and very fortunate to be invited to Tm and chance to be part of WC squad if selected. a lifetime dreams.
                        They have been Invited to attend TM training camp for specific date and if for any reason decide not to go or have excuses, they should have contacted TM coach or Manager for clarification or guidance. Noe of them did
                        They were all into Championship game and celebrations.... TM could wait attitude.
                        Best is so quickly realised their mistake and do all they must to be considered for Next training camp. and have more respect for NT. It's not about Sko but respect of NT.


                        Soroush Rafiei: "Hesse kheili hasti be in Team Melli nadaram."

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                          Originally posted by St_Mark View Post
                          All these 5 players are reserve players and very fortunate to be invited to Tm and chance to be part of WC squad if selected. a lifetime dreams.
                          They have been Invited to attend TM training camp for specific date and if for any reason decide not to go or have excuses, they should have contacted TM coach or Manager for clarification or guidance. Noe of them did
                          They were all into Championship game and celebrations.... TM could wait attitude.
                          Best is so quickly realised their mistake and do all they must to be considered for Next training camp. and have more respect for NT. It's not about Sko but respect of NT.
                          Not their responsibility. All the talking is between the federation and club.
                          Remember the federation scheduled last PGL fixture, not the club/players.
                          Esteghlal 💙💙

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                            Originally posted by peiman92 View Post
                            Not their responsibility. All the talking is between the federation and club.
                            Remember the federation scheduled last PGL fixture, not the players.
                            for 2 days issue was debated in media , impossible not being unaware.
                            TM invitation was done by IFf official site and covered by major news agencies.
                            They can have all sort of excuses including one you mentioned , in the end, They were invited to TM , they did not show up and went to party.

                            Invitation to TM is only by TM coach, he decide who invite, who he reject and even change his mind .
                            If he invite 5 then later reject them, it is his prerogative.

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                              Originally posted by St_Mark View Post
                              All 5 supposed to first attend TM camp and register at Olympic Hotel then leave for Esteghlal part and come back after the game.
                              They did not do that. They did not show up at TM hotel and after the game went home or wherever they went.
                              It seems their club and party is more important for them
                              Let them stay home and do more party.
                              Discipline is key to organization. Skocic did the right thing. They will be called up again but the punishment warrants the crime.

                              No one or club is above TM. Playing in TM is a privilege not a right. Good on Skocic. Iron out disciplinary issues asap rather than take them to WC.

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                              Remember RESPECT BEGETS RESPECT & Zob Ahan

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                                Originally posted by St_Mark View Post
                                for 2 days issue was debated in media , impossible not being unaware.
                                TM invitation was done by IFf official site and covered by major news agencies.
                                They can have all sort of excuses including one you mentioned , in the end, They were invited to TM , they did not show up and went to party.

                                Invitation to TM is only by TM coach, he decide who invite, who he reject and even change his mind .
                                If he invite 5 then later reject them, it is his prerogative.

                                TM invitation was done by IFF, so was scheduling of W30. What's your point?

                                Let's go back to South Africa camp before WC14 and Sepahan situation.
                                If you remember they were still involved with ACL and CQ was fighting with Kranjcar over TM players.
                                He basically told Kranjcar if you use TM-players in ACL they will be crossed of the list. Sepahan didn't qualify for KO-stages that year so it didn't become a big issue.

                                Now if Skocic said something like that in media and Majidi still used the 5 players, then it's another story.
                                But he didn't, so Esteghlal/the players are not to blame here.
                                Esteghlal 💙💙

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