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Will Iran's Football prosper under the Islamic Republic?
Islamic Republic has had 0 Asian Cups in 43 years. Shah had 3 Asian cups in 54 years, qualified for the world cup which was 10 times harder in 1978 when only 1 team from Asia was invited, and dominated Israel with 3 wins and 1 draw against Israel for all you IR dool suckers (Maybe that last stat will sell some of you inbred lunatics?).
We are playing football with no shoes until IR is gone, but we have the potential to be the first Asian team to win a World Cup or come close if you just let go of the propaganda you've been fed. Look inside your heart for Iran, I beg of you. Don't do it for me or you, do it for our children and our future generations.
We must stop enabling the enablers of Islamic Republic. If you don't say anything, if you don't do anything, you are enabling Islamic Republic, and you are against Iranians and Iranian prosperity.
"either youre with us or against us" ... sigh
"enablers"
Enabling exactly what? What are you going to do about those people that oppose your views? Lash them? Hang them? Publicly humiliate them?
If you are for democracy, learn to respect your opponents and be confident that your arguments and views are BETTER.
Are you having some sort of anxiety and doubt that you try to cover up by not even acknowledging other people?
Disclaimer: I'm not particularly fond of either Shah nor Theocracy
Agree. I’ve always been bothered by words like “tolerance” and “coexist”. Sworn enemies can tolerate and coexist without any progress. There’s even a Museum of Tolerance in LA. SMH
Football Under IR
- Just this week, Mirshad Majedi (IFF Head) complained that government promised them funds but has not delivered one cent - jeopardizing Iran's 2022 World Cup campaign
- Terrorist IRGC elements are all over our football - from Mehdi Taj, Mohammad Rouyanian/Akbar Ghamkhar (Persepolis), Mostafa Ajorlu (Esteghlal), Naser Shafagh (Teraktor Sazi) etc.
- Look at the details of the corruption of Mehdi Taj with the Marc Wilmots deal: https://iranwire.com/en/features/67478 - typical dallal shit.
- Another good article talking about the likes of Ali Karimi being suspended for not fasting, IRGC in our football - https://www.rferl.org/a/Political_Fo...n/2186168.html
- Not qualifying to Olympics since 1976
- Shitty performances by all of our Under-teams (outside 2017 and 2009 U17 team + U23 Asian Games win in 2002)
- Forced hijab on our women's team (no one else in the world follows this practice)
- Women being pepper-sprayed
- Players supporting antigovernmental protests (Green Movement, November 2019)
- Blacklisting people who are trying to push our football forward - Adel Ferdosipour, Ali Daei etc.
- Biggest clubs being banned for not fulfilling professional requirements in the Asian Champions League - Persepolis and Esteghlal
- Falling behind everyone else's grassroots academies i.e. Qatar and Aspire Academy
- Jailing a former IFF head (and a good one) - Safaei Farahani (unprecedented in the world)
- Outside Carlos Queiroz - no world class coaches.
- Not winning Asian Cup since regime has been in power, while likes of Qatar, Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi (3x) has won it since revolution
- Only Asian powerhouse not to get past World Cup group stage - Saudi Arabia even did it!
- Also because IR is such a dishonest and corrupt system - there is huge antidoping (was in the past, not sure now) - affected even some great transfers like Nikbakht Vahedi to Fenerbahce because he apparently rumoured to dope
- Also, dalal bazi prevented moves like Mehrdad Oladi to Xerez CD (La Liga side)
- Games are still not in HD (for many clubs), don't have VAR fully setup while world has it
- Recycling coaches in the PGPL - if one coach fails at one club, he gets another shot at another - and cycle goes on
- IFF suspended by FIFA (2007) and always constantly under the threat of suspension for government interference and other infractions
- No privatization of clubs, IRGC influence and ownership
- TV rights and money stolen by regime where millions tune (insane advertising revenue)
- Massive deaths in stadium because of poor management and crumbling infrastructure - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/may/07/iran (30+ people died in Nowshahr when roof collapsed)
The list goes on and on ... our success has is attributed to our team and players alone.
Impossible to forget these points. But sadly Web is just pockets of echo chamber where people can feel good about themselves - sad we blame every country in the world but IR Iran for the shit situation we are in. I wish the merit of an argument was the supreme criteria, but it's not.
- CAS and non payment of foreigners
- non payment of local players
"This is a totalitarian system whose presence people feel in their blood and in their flesh on a daily basis. And it’s one that does not grant freedoms of any kind, or accommodate people’s demands in any way. What is increasingly clear is that there is clear demand for change in the regime. What the people want is regime change, and no return to the past. There is a very real possibility of regime change." - Nasrin Sotoudeh
- Outside Carlos Queiroz - no world class coaches.
That's incorrect!
Miroslav Blazevic (won 3rd Place at 1998 World Cup and 1996 Euro Quarter-Finals as manager of Croatia)
Marc Wilmots (reached Quarter-Finals at 2014 World Cup and Euro 2016 as manager of Belgium)
John Toshack - big name coach who was in charge of Tractor in 2018
Nelo Vingada is another big name who won 3rd place at 1995 U-20 World Cup as manager of Portugal.
Winfried Schäfer won 2002 Africa Cup of Nations and 2nd place at 2003 Confederations Cup as Manager of Cameroon. Also 2nd place at 2015 CONCACAF World Cup as manager of Jamaica.
In Imperial Iran, only two world class coaches Frank O'Farrell (coached Man U) and Yevgeny Lydin(won 1966 & 1967 U-19 Euro as manager of Soviet Union). All other foreign coaches were not World Class coaches: such as Alan Rogers, Stuart Williams, Danny McLennan, Zdravko Rajkov, Igor Netto, József Mészáros, György Szűcs, Ștefan Stănculescu, Vladimir Jekić, Harry Gome, Ivan Kuonoev.
That's incorrect!
Miroslav Blazevic (won 3rd Place at 1998 World Cup and 1996 Euro Quarter-Finals as manager of Croatia)
Marc Wilmots (reached Quarter-Finals at 2014 World Cup and Euro 2016 as manager of Belgium)
John Toshack - big name coach who was in charge of Tractor in 2018
Nelo Vingada is another big name who won 3rd place at 1995 U-20 World Cup as manager of Portugal.
Winfried Schäfer won 2002 Africa Cup of Nations and 2nd place at 2003 Confederations Cup as Manager of Cameroon. Also 2nd place at 2015 CONCACAF World Cup as manager of Jamaica.
In Imperial Iran, only two world class coaches Frank O'Farrell (coached Man U) and Yevgeny Lydin(won 1966 & 1967 U-19 Euro as manager of Soviet Union). All other foreign coaches were not World Class coaches: such as Alan Rogers, Stuart Williams, Danny McLennan, Zdravko Rajkov, Igor Netto, József Mészáros, György Szűcs, Ștefan Stănculescu, Vladimir Jekić, Harry Gome, Ivan Kuonoev.
Coaches have ups and downs. We got these coaches on the downturn of their careers. None of these managers were anything special post their Iran managerial runs. Wilmots has a big resume but he is absolute crap wherever he goes.
Every national team now has almost a world class manager - even subpar national teams. You cannot compare now to 50 years ago - it takes away all context. There is a ton of those now - much more than before because coaching has been professionalized and standardized.
Iran was the best place in Asia back in the day. Even South Korea was far behind Iran. Everyone had a great opinion of Iran - around the world. Now, the opposite is true.
"This is a totalitarian system whose presence people feel in their blood and in their flesh on a daily basis. And it’s one that does not grant freedoms of any kind, or accommodate people’s demands in any way. What is increasingly clear is that there is clear demand for change in the regime. What the people want is regime change, and no return to the past. There is a very real possibility of regime change." - Nasrin Sotoudeh
Again you are referring to the mid-1970s until late 1970s. Before that, Khareji-ha az Dowlat-e Iran haqe tavahosh migeraftand ham dar doreye Qajar va ham Pahlavi. Dar doreye Pahlavi, General-e Irani dar barabar-e Sargod o Sarhang-e Amrikayi taazim mikardeh. Amrika o Englis ba Irani-ha mesle barde raftar mikardand. Albateh hala ham hamoon raftar ro Rus o Chin o Arab ba Irani-ha anjam midan.
Yes, Gladly.
Or maybe you? Someone should step up.
... Here is the start of the ban list:
Babak_Shirazi
Farhad21
Filsoof
MHosseini
maly3648
Manitoban
SkyeKingu
somebuffguy
Zorar
Yes, Gladly.
Or maybe you? Someone should step up.
... Here is the start of the ban list:
Babak_Shirazi
Farhad21
Filsoof
MHosseini
maly3648
Manitoban
SkyeKingu
somebuffguy
Zorar
you sound eerily similar to somebody who annointed himself faqih and went around deciding who could live and who could die. Looking back at history, Iranians would do well to steer clear of such people
Yes, Gladly.
Or maybe you? Someone should step up.
... Here is the start of the ban list:
Babak_Shirazi
Farhad21
Filsoof
MHosseini
maly3648
Manitoban
SkyeKingu
somebuffguy
Zorar
Rather than banning them, I think we should hear their argument for why they think Iran's football can prosper under this regime/system.
Simple answer, no. We will always be limited without the proper resources needed for Iranian football to grow. Most of that which stems from financial reasons.
The talent is certainly there and we can easily be the best in Asia, but there's much more than just kicking the ball into the back of the net.
We don't have the proper infrastructure, we don't allow our women into stadiums, clubs don't 100% fulfill players/coaches contracts, we can't ever get proper kits, etc.
I would be surprised to see us win an Asian Cup or advance to knockout stage at the World Cup with what they're given. Hope I'm wrong, but feels like our players are always at a disadvantage.
you sound eerily similar to somebody who annointed himself faqih and went around deciding who could live and who could die. Looking back at history, Iranians would do well to steer clear of such people
I don't believe this shit poster understands what irony is.
Miroslav Blazevic (won 3rd Place at 1998 World Cup and 1996 Euro Quarter-Finals as manager of Croatia)
Marc Wilmots (reached Quarter-Finals at 2014 World Cup and Euro 2016 as manager of Belgium)
John Toshack - big name coach who was in charge of Tractor in 2018
Nelo Vingada is another big name who won 3rd place at 1995 U-20 World Cup as manager of Portugal.
Winfried Schäfer won 2002 Africa Cup of Nations and 2nd place at 2003 Confederations Cup as Manager of Cameroon. Also 2nd place at 2015 CONCACAF World Cup as manager of Jamaica.
In Imperial Iran, only two world class coaches Frank O'Farrell (coached Man U) and Yevgeny Lydin(won 1966 & 1967 U-19 Euro as manager of Soviet Union). All other foreign coaches were not World Class coaches: such as Alan Rogers, Stuart Williams, Danny McLennan, Zdravko Rajkov, Igor Netto, József Mészáros, György Szűcs, Ștefan Stănculescu, Vladimir Jekić, Harry Gome, Ivan Kuonoev.
Could you please also give your thoughts on the other things taremiscores mentioned? Looking forward to it.
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