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    Last week I visited (in observation role) the med day for the Liverpool first team. Essentially, they have one day where they get all the medical/holistic check up: Cardiology (ECG, functional echo), Ophthalmology, ENT, Rheumatology, Ortho/Sports Physicians, Psychologist etc... all see the players one-by-one in a kind of carousel. It is run by one main team doctor who invites local specialists for each field. The whole operation was so smooth.

    First things first - the building is an absolute palace. So much ornate stuff everywhere, so much space... I wasn't allowed to take any photos...

    Their canteen is amazing, buffet area is fantastic. They have a cafe/smoothie place which looked so nice.

    All the food in the buffet looked tasty but was low in terms of sugar etc... They have high-calibre chefs there who cook anything the players want (out of the options) on the fly, and a steak fridge complex where they can choose a steak and the chef makes it how they want. It looked healthy but tasty and I guess it offers the amount of flexibility that people want when they are choosing food.

    The players I saw (Henderson, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Robertson, Jones, Kelleher, Phillips) were friendly (especially Hendo) but all of them looked like they had such a low body fat index it was crazy - actually some of them looked like junkies because there was so little fat in the face/body. The chef said that before they were given stricter food regimes, but now they get a choice of whatever they want. In the past the players used to go out and get other food (eg pizza, hamburgers) which made them lose their body form but here they had a choice of tasty things which they stuck to.

    There was a huge amount of care put into every aspect of their nutrition. There were also specific areas for rest, relaxation pods. Everything was finely tuned

    This whole experience made me appreciate how much of a gap there is between levels of football in the european club game and other places. This gives such an advantage to these players I feel, over the season and over their careers as a whole.

    Imagine if Saeid would have had the nutrition and holistic work that these guys get on a regular basis...







    Anyway i'm hopefully going to go again in three months time

    #2
    that sounds awesome man, thanks for sharing. so you mean back in the day players would sneak off for a burger or pizza but the chefs can just make them a healthier version of that now?

    i know it is high pressure to be a footballer but it really is the dream job. theres a reason some players never want to retire.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Ostad_Goosfand View Post
      that sounds awesome man, thanks for sharing. so you mean back in the day players would sneak off for a burger or pizza but the chefs can just make them a healthier version of that now?
      i know it is high pressure to be a footballer but it really is the dream job. theres a reason some players never want to retire.
      Yep even 10 years ago there used to be a menu for the day (with a few options) which was healthy but kind of restrictive and not very tasty so players used to go out after and just get McDonalds. So even though some of the guys were fit, they didn't have optimum form like now (eg google "Salah topless")

      Now they had loads of options and the chef makes it for them individually. They have a sort of open kitchen as well in Melwood, it's all kind of like a keto/paleo diet but looked really tasty (at least to me)

      Sometimes the players themselves get stuck in too lol



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        #4
        What we need is some of Jurgen's special inhalers. The funding for it can be offset by not requiring to order special bespoke children size gear for Ghaedi.

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          #5
          By the way another thing which happens in Liverpool which i think is really healthy for the team and city:

          Whereas opponent teams (mainly for champions league fixtures) usually stay at the Titanic Hotel which is in the north of the city out of the way, Klopp books out the cheaper Hope Street Hotel in the city centre every couple of months. The players stay there and then go for a walk around that part of the city with very little entourage (up to metropolitan cathedral and around the georgian quarter and ropewalks). It keeps the players grounded and remembering who the support is.

          I genuinely think all these little things make a difference when it comes to team spirit and passion for the shirt, supporters etc.... It increases the chance of a team being greater than the sum of its parts.

          We also used to have a guy who had this approach... 😢



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            #6
            It's what optimal funding, coaching, and infrastructure looks like. Thanks so much for sharing. I'm sure Japan and Korea have already implemented some sort of similar system regarding diet and training when the players are with them. It's a case in point about how an Iran that isn't sanctioned to death and with competent management can be - so much potential

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              #7
              Originally posted by DR Strangemoosh View Post
              By the way another thing which happens in Liverpool which i think is really healthy for the team and city:

              Whereas opponent teams (mainly for champions league fixtures) usually stay at the Titanic Hotel which is in the north of the city out of the way, Klopp books out the cheaper Hope Street Hotel in the city centre every couple of months. The players stay there and then go for a walk around that part of the city with very little entourage (up to metropolitan cathedral and around the georgian quarter and ropewalks). It keeps the players grounded and remembering who the support is.

              I genuinely think all these little things make a difference when it comes to team spirit and passion for the shirt, supporters etc.... It increases the chance of a team being greater than the sum of its parts.

              We also used to have a guy who had this approach... 😢



              Does Skocic do this? Again, I think this is good for our players and coaching staff to connect with the people.
              "This is a totalitarian system whose presence people feel in their blood and in their flesh on a daily basis. And it’s one that does not grant freedoms of any kind, or accommodate people’s demands in any way. What is increasingly clear is that there is clear demand for change in the regime. What the people want is regime change, and no return to the past. There is a very real possibility of regime change." - Nasrin Sotoudeh

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                #8
                Originally posted by taremiscores View Post
                Does Skocic do this?
                No, but he's an expert in beard-pinching

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                  #9
                  skocic diet list for tm players
                  SEEFOOD diwt
                  Whatever you see eat.
                  thats why some players support
                  him.
                  typical day at teammelli camp
                  breakfast
                  choice of kaleh pacheh
                  or noon kareh moraba or
                  hotdogs and eggs .
                  or sarshir and asal.
                  3 type bread is served
                  sangak,shirmal,taftoon.

                  lunch
                  dizi,
                  cholo kabab...baghali polo with unlimited meat.
                  OFFCOURSE KAREHHEYVANI.

                  dinner
                  3 stews
                  gormeh sabzi,geyme,fesenjon.
                  pizza,

                  skocic for president with this kind
                  of food.

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                    #10
                    Iran is at least 100 years behind these things sadly.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by kateb View Post
                      skocic diet list for tm players
                      SEEFOOD diwt
                      Whatever you see eat.

                      thats why some players support
                      him.
                      typical day at teammelli camp
                      breakfast
                      choice of kaleh pacheh
                      or noon kareh moraba or
                      hotdogs and eggs .
                      or sarshir and asal.
                      3 type bread is served
                      sangak,shirmal,taftoon.

                      lunch
                      dizi,
                      cholo kabab...baghali polo with unlimited meat.
                      OFFCOURSE KAREHHEYVANI.

                      dinner
                      3 stews
                      gormeh sabzi,geyme,fesenjon.
                      pizza,

                      skocic for president with this kind
                      of food.
                      LOOL!

                      So thats why IFF is broke..
                      .....
                      .....
                      Supporting Team Melli

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by DR Strangemoosh View Post
                        Last week I visited (in observation role) the med day for the Liverpool first team. Essentially, they have one day where they get all the medical/holistic check up: Cardiology (ECG, functional echo), Ophthalmology, ENT, Rheumatology, Ortho/Sports Physicians, Psychologist etc... all see the players one-by-one in a kind of carousel. It is run by one main team doctor who invites local specialists for each field. The whole operation was so smooth.
                        First things first - the building is an absolute palace. So much ornate stuff everywhere, so much space... I wasn't allowed to take any photos...
                        Their canteen is amazing, buffet area is fantastic. They have a cafe/smoothie place which looked so nice.
                        All the food in the buffet looked tasty but was low in terms of sugar etc... They have high-calibre chefs there who cook anything the players want (out of the options) on the fly, and a steak fridge complex where they can choose a steak and the chef makes it how they want. It looked healthy but tasty and I guess it offers the amount of flexibility that people want when they are choosing food.
                        The players I saw (Henderson, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Robertson, Jones, Kelleher, Phillips) were friendly (especially Hendo) but all of them looked like they had such a low body fat index it was crazy - actually some of them looked like junkies because there was so little fat in the face/body. The chef said that before they were given stricter food regimes, but now they get a choice of whatever they want. In the past the players used to go out and get other food (eg pizza, hamburgers) which made them lose their body form but here they had a choice of tasty things which they stuck to.
                        There was a huge amount of care put into every aspect of their nutrition. There were also specific areas for rest, relaxation pods. Everything was finely tuned
                        This whole experience made me appreciate how much of a gap there is between levels of football in the european club game and other places. This gives such an advantage to these players I feel, over the season and over their careers as a whole.
                        Imagine if Saeid would have had the nutrition and holistic work that these guys get on a regular basis...


                        Anyway i'm hopefully going to go again in three months time
                        Boos for this brilliant share u lucky boy!
                        Money, optimum care&respect gives the coach and players no excuse to park the bus.
                        Keep calm and believe in Fairies and Footballers Roxanaz

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Roxanaz80 View Post
                          Boos for this brilliant share u lucky boy!
                          Money, optimum care&respect gives the coach and players no excuse to park the bus.
                          Thanks Though my 10 year old self would have been much more excited. Now I'd be more excited seeing a TM Omid player than any of these cachectic-looking Liverpool guys

                          Originally posted by kateb View Post
                          skocic diet list for tm players
                          SEEFOOD diwt
                          Whatever you see eat.
                          thats why some players support
                          him.
                          This is exactly Klopp's diet but the food available all has a good glycaemic index and healthy as well as tasty.

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                            #14
                            [QUOTE=DR Strangemoosh;2827915]Thanks Though my 10 year old self would have been much more excited. Now I'd be more excited seeing a TM Omid player than any of these cachectic-looking Liverpool guys

                            Lol...
                            Cool job u have!
                            Keep calm and believe in Fairies and Footballers Roxanaz

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                              #15
                              I know that 2:30am hamburger is a euphemism for something else, but not having proper rest (let alone nutrition) is important when playing against England and US both of which will have prime conditioning.

                              The way things are going, this is a mess at multiple levels.

                              The final training camps need to be more serious than this, whoever the coach or support staff. Otherwise whether with Skocic, Javad, Ghalenoi or Chuck. E Cheese we will be destroyed.

                              Iran has never been completely thrashed at these tournaments but there is always a first time. People who seem to think "but we are different" in mentality from Saudi or even Brazil (7-1 v Germany) may need to wake up

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