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    #16
    As Nima said there are tons of stuffs other than technical abilities which will make the huge difference.
    Something we had during CQ which is missing big time now.

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      #17
      Originally posted by DR Strangemoosh View Post
      I know that 2:30am hamburger is a euphemism for something else, but not having proper rest (let alone nutrition) is important when playing against England and US both of which will have prime conditioning.
      The way things are going, this is a mess at multiple levels.
      The final training camps need to be more serious than this, whoever the coach or support staff. Otherwise whether with Skocic, Javad, Ghalenoi or Chuck. E Cheese we will be destroyed.
      Iran has never been completely thrashed at these tournaments but there is always a first time. People who seem to think "but we are different" in mentality from Saudi or even Brazil (7-1 v Germany) may need to wake up
      Exactly! Its very annoying that sure IFF is a mess worse than many years, but atleast the trainingcamp.. Skokic, Hashemian, wtf were they thinking putting it in skorching hot summer Qatar, ending up in stadium without aircooler system since world cup playoff games were played in the stadiums with coolers atm in qatar. they ended up training on field that everyone had insight to, so other countrys spies could se secret trainings etc. (If Sko against all odds have some secret freekick variant etc)

      They messed the only thing they could control, just stay in Iran and hold the camp at home then baba, both should be fired just of that reason, same with IFF Majedi and Estile for not opposing to Qatar camp suggestion.

      #About 2.30 middle of the night "hamburger order" - Yeah, thought hit me that hamburger can be codeword for ordering some "meat"..

      It also made me think about this two

      After days of driving, a trucker walks into a empty small-town diner and sees three signs above the counter.
      The first reads "Hamburger: $5," the second reads "Cheeseburger: $6," and the third reads "Handjob: $10." As the man approached, a beautiful young woman dressed in an apron came out from the kitchen and asked coyly, "What can I do for you, hon?"

      "Are you the one who gives the handjobs?" asked the trucker.

      "Why yes," answered the woman with a knowing smile. "Yes I am."

      "Well then go wash your fkng hands, because I want a cheeseburger."

      and


      A trucker walks into a brothel and slaps $500 down on the counter. "Give me your ugliest hooker and an overcooked steak!"

      The madam looks at the trucker and says, "but sir, for that money you could have my best girl and a fine meal"

      The trucker replies "I'm not horny, I'm homesick!"
      .....
      .....
      Supporting Team Melli

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        #18
        Did you see the Ventolin stash?

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          #19
          Originally posted by Azmoun_shireh View Post
          Did you see the Ventolin stash?
          LOL... They say that 22 of their 35 first squad players are asthmatic

          I dont think that these salbutamol inhalers actually benefit football players over a 90 mins match, but it's still a little strange

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            #20
            As per a current TM player today:

            https://www.instagram.com/p/CgOuRruozrr/

            Preparedness under CQ time:

            "We didn't see 12 o'clock in the national team camp before. One of the reasons was that the coaches insisted that we should be at the breakfast table at 9 o'clock. As a player, I had to sleep early. The plan for tomorrow was clear. We had an analysis class. We had practice. We used to go to the weight room. We worked under the supervision of a physiotherapist. We had a massage. We went to the swimming pool and... in short, our schedule was ful"

            Skocic era:

            "During Skocic's era, it is not like this. We usually only practice in camp. That's why we have free time and more time. From the day Skocic said that breakfast is optional and the players can skip breakfast if they want, the mafia story started. I have a question for you. Isn't breakfast the most important meal of the day? Is it possible for a player in the national team of Spain, Germany and England not to eat breakfast? By the way, they always put the most nutritious foods for breakfast. In short, after Skocic's announcement, most of the players realized that they can stay awake more at night, because there is no news until noon and they can sleep. This was the form we mostly saw at the coaches' lunch table.

            When breakfast became optional, we would get together with most of the kids at night to play mafia. Usually, we used to make two groups for the game and gather in the room of two of the players. The game often lasts until 4 in the morning. Then we slept until noon. When we woke up, we went for lunch. Unconsciously, we were physically tired because we missed the main time of sleep. Of course, I should say that it would have been better if we all slept early, but sometimes in difficult camp conditions, the players like to be together more and have fun. The weather in Qatar was not favorable at all."



            Unbelievable, the situation is worse than we can imagine.... Khak too sareh IFF, managers, coaches.

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              #21
              England, USA and Wales will have the highest level of form and conditioning for the WC. As mentioned in my first post, the level and focus of nutrition at the highest level is now very different to what it was 8 years ago and is similar to what this player describes:

              "Is it possible for a player in the national team of Spain, Germany and England not to eat breakfast? By the way, they always put the most nutritious foods for breakfast."

              If our players will be using the finals camps playing card games until 4am, having cheeseburgers at 2am, and having "cheeseburgers" at 2:30am, we are absolutely fakt.
              Anyone who thinks we won't be humiliated needs to wake up, and then wake up again. They are in a dream in a dream.

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                #22
                Originally posted by DR Strangemoosh View Post
                England, USA and Wales will have the highest level of form and conditioning for the WC. As mentioned in my first post, the level and focus of nutrition at the highest level is now very different to what it was 8 years ago and is similar to what this player describes:
                "Is it possible for a player in the national team of Spain, Germany and England not to eat breakfast? By the way, they always put the most nutritious foods for breakfast."
                If our players will be using the finals camps playing card games until 4am, having cheeseburgers at 2am, and having "cheeseburgers" at 2:30am, we are absolutely fakt.
                Anyone who thinks we won't be humiliated needs to wake up, and then wake up again. They are in a dream in a dream.
                What kharness. Whoever made these comments is a huge idiot. Go and eat your breakfast then. These comments only point to the low IQ of the player who made them. Your nutrition is up to you, you are a grown man and a professional. Your diet and nutrition should be throughout the season and not a one week camp. If you area player that needs his sleep and breakfast then why do you need someone to force you? Is that not even beneath you?

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by tooleh khers View Post
                  What kharness. Whoever made these comments is a huge idiot. Go and eat your breakfast then. These comments only point to the low IQ of the player who made them. Your nutrition is up to you, you are a grown man and a professional. Your diet and nutrition should be throughout the season and not a one week camp. If you area player that needs his sleep and breakfast then why do you need someone to force you? Is that not even beneath you?
                  lol go watch any top level team, it is a team effort. u think players can do this in NFL? yes what they do outside of practice is up to them but training camp is a CAMP and needs to be organized and have strong leadership.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Ostad_Goosfand View Post
                    lol go watch any top level team, it is a team effort. u think players can do this in NFL? yes what they do outside of practice is up to them but training camp is a CAMP and needs to be organized and have strong leadership.
                    Leadership has different styles. Also timing matters. Sometimes you got to let the players make those decisions themselves and sometimes you got to let loose. The Cq army and their logic....Everything CQ is right everyone else wrong...Are you with NFL teams to see how they do it? Also if you eat whatever you want after practice then what difference does that week in training make? CQ logic 101. Me I say the opposite of CQ army. I say since what CQ style and philosophy did nothing we should throw them out in the garbage bin of history. Heck let's do the opposite of what CQ would do. You think an Ali Karimi style player could play for CQ? No of course not.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by tooleh khers View Post
                      Leadership has different styles. Also timing matters. Sometimes you got to let the players make those decisions themselves and sometimes you got to let loose. The Cq army and their logic....Everything CQ is right everyone else wrong...Are you with NFL teams to see how they do it? Also if you eat whatever you want after practice then what difference does that week in training make? CQ logic 101. Me I say the opposite of CQ army. I say since what CQ style and philosophy did nothing we should throw them out in the garbage bin of history. Heck let's do the opposite of what CQ would do. You think an Ali Karimi style player could play for CQ? No of course not.
                      there is no cq army, we just say things were much much better than a khooneh be khooneh coach. it is that simple. you are more anti CQ than even the biggest fanboys are pro CQ in this forum.

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                        #26
                        They were starting the practice in Qatar at 9:00 pm and where getting back to hotel past midnight. By the time they showered, wound down and go to bed, it would be around 2:00 am. Now you can force them to have breakfast at 8:30 next morning or let them rest for 9 hours and then come down and have lunch...

                        The player that made these comments is just creating hashiyeh...

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by tooleh khers View Post
                          You think an Ali Karimi style player could play for CQ?
                          Discipline is needed in any team. If Ali Karimi made too much noise and tried to divide the camp like 2006 then he would be out. I would do the same and hope if you were TM coach would also.

                          Look at the Manchester United example, last year they had Ole who let the players do whatever they want and the TikTok leaker boys(Lingard and Pogba) ruled the locker room. As a fan, they looked fat, lazy and overpriveleged. Now Ten Hag told the players to cut this out, shipped the troublemakers out and they look levels better. If they ship spoiled Ronaldo away also they might start the steps to get back to their past.
                          Last edited by perspolis#1; 07-20-2022, 03:05 PM.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Farzadfarhangni View Post
                            They were starting the practice in Qatar at 9:00 pm and where getting back to hotel past midnight. By the time they showered, wound down and go to bed, it would be around 2:00 am. Now you can force them to have breakfast at 8:30 next morning or let them rest for 9 hours and then come down and have lunch...

                            The player that made these comments is just creating hashiyeh...
                            I do not believe a player even made those comments. If true then that player needs to be cut just for his intent by claiming such untruths. Same with taremi, now that this information is out it shows his words have 0 credibility. IMO ones character and integrity needs to be on TM level as well not just football. You are wearing the holly jersey of Iran. This means something.

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                              #29
                              5am arrival to Tehran and he goes straight to lead practice.

                              Bringing a nutritionist into the setup.

                              Discipline. Dedication.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by DR Strangemoosh View Post
                                5am arrival to Tehran and he goes straight to lead practice.

                                Bringing a nutritionist into the setup.

                                Discipline. Dedication.
                                Bro this guy is on another level. Those like Misaghi, Khodadad and Parvin can go hide in their caves with their "we should have hired an iranian coach", yeah what was an iranian coach gonna do? Sit and eat kabab and kalle pache at 3 at night and say "inshallah be omide khoda movafagh mishim" yeah cause that inshallah and khoda have brought you so many points and respect at the world cup, right?

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