DRAGAN SKOČIĆ MIGHT BE SACKED!

[O-ZoNe]

The main issue is hypocrisy. We are too good and have Asia's best players when we lose with other coaches. However, we are weak and garbage when it comes to CQ. I have said this a few times and it is repeated and displayed by the CQ crowd over and over again: For CQ to be good Iran has to be piss poor and its opponents giants in such a way that a small loss is a miracle. So uninformed or willfully ignorant to completely over look our football history and even the game of football. If we are losers before we play why even play? If a player on our national team has this mentality that he is worth 500k and his counterpart in Spain is worth 30 million so he is that much better he might as well not play soccer or even sports for that matter. The mentality has to be "I am better than him and I will prove it against him".


Over and over again we will hear we are Iran we have to be real and they are this...Never mind that we tied a packed Scotland team at the beginning of our football. NVM that we tied Argentina before, beat Brazil in the Olympics, have a history of playing strong teams and not getting shishtayid or even embarrassed like we don't belong on the same field. Our most embarrassing performances actually are those performances everybody hails as achievements. The CQ crowd and the anti CQ crowd we are not the same.

This is a post of year candidate. For those who believe we have no football pedigree before CQ or will ever have it after him.

Baba Cq left us for Colombia in midst of AC. He is done with us. It's like we are suffering fro battered partner syndrome! Let the man go. Thank him for his time and wish him all the best including how he spends his money from us as we made him one of the highest paying coaches during WC. Time to move on!

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[Kian H]

Picking a coach isnt about the name but the right match. I dont Think iranians understand that, or many people on this board. They Think a Big name means good results. But there is 1000 other things in that equation. In 2008 when Barca needed a New coach, they held talks with 2 people: Mourinho a proven winner everywhere we had Been, and a no name Pep Guardiola who only had experience from Barca B. They chose Pep because he was the right match for Barcelona, and the rest is history.

Im not saying Skocic was the right match. Maybe he was, maybe he wasnt. But he never really Got the chance to win over the people because people disregarded him from the beginning. And thats just the Way many iranians are. Passion over Logic. You see it on this Forum too. Many passionated TM fans, who love their team, but has absolutely no clue about football. Like zero Ball knowledge, which is fine. Everybody has a knowledge about something, you cant know about everything.

[Kian H]

Speaking of right match. CQ was the perfect match for us, but was absolutly garbage almost anywhere Else as a head coach. Portugal, real Madrid, Colombia and so on are laughing at him. How you ever heard what their fans say about him? They see him as a disaster. Roy Keane almost mocked him. He Said he was Great as assistant manager in Man United, but trash as a head coach and he even took some shot on his personality. This is just to say, that CQ isnt perfect. Actually his record shows that he is kind of average, but for Iran he as perfect. We needed him on and off the field. Again, its all about the right match..

[taremiscores]

Speaking of right match. CQ was the perfect match for us, but was absolutly garbage almost anywhere Else as a head coach. Portugal, real Madrid, Colombia and so on are laughing at him. How you ever heard what their fans say about him? They see him as a disaster. Roy Keane almost mocked him. He Said he was Great as assistant manager in Man United, but trash as a head coach and he even took some shot on his personality. This is just to say, that CQ isnt perfect. Actually his record shows that he is kind of average, but for Iran he as perfect. We needed him on and off the field. Again, its all about the right match..

Egyptian fans loved him and were begging for him to come back.

Columbia finished in 6th place and didn't even make the World Cup playoffs - they have a ton of talent but didn't find their groove after CQ either. He was not the problem.

[Kian H]

Yes Egypt liked him, that makes it 2… point is the same. It is all about the right match, not the name of the coach.

And no he wasnt good in Colombia. They lost 6-1 to Ecuador in the qualifiers. That was the first time since 1977 that Colombia conceeded 6 goals. Imagine if we lost 6-1 to any asian team, you Would have killed Skocic. And Bear in mind they didnt loose 6-1 to Brazil or Argentina, it was Ecuador

I love Carlos and what he did for Iran. But Truth is the truth, and some people hide the truth because of their agenda

[O-ZoNe]

Egyptian fans loved him and were begging for him to come back.

Columbia finished in 6th place and didn't even make the World Cup playoffs - they have a ton of talent but didn't find their groove after CQ either. He was not the problem.

Colombia was on CQ. They suffered their worst defeat in 4 decades under him.

https://www.the42.ie/carlos-queiroz-...86911-Dec2020/

Infact their record after him was solid. Losing only to losing to Brazil 2-1 and 1-0 as well as Peru and Argentina 1-0. They even drew argentina after CQ. They would have qualified ahead of Peru if they had the record after Cq trend before him.

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[taremiscores]

Colombia was on CQ. They suffered their worst defeat in 4 decades under him.

https://www.the42.ie/carlos-queiroz-...86911-Dec2020/

Infact their record after him was solid. Losing only to losing to Brazil 2-1 and 1-0 as well as Peru and Argentina 1-0. They even drew argentina after CQ. They would have qualified ahead of Peru if they had the record after Cq trend before him.

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They have way too many offensive weapons - CQ was not the right coach for them. Just not a good fit. That's all.

[Kian H]

They have way too many offensive weapons - CQ was not the right coach for them. Just not a good fit. That's all.

Thats exactly what im saying.. its about the perfect fit, not the perfect name

[O-ZoNe]

They have way too many offensive weapons - CQ was not the right coach for them. Just not a good fit. That's all.

Agreed. And all we have right now is offensive weapons as well. Allayhar, Taremi, Azmoun. Best trio in a long while...everywhere else we are not strong.

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[Farzadfarhangni]

Some mad men on this thread.

Performances against Spain and Portugal were not so impressive given the fact neither of those teams advanced beyond the round of 16? Are you mad? That's because it's knockout football. Spain lost to a home nation on penalties after completely dominating the game. Look at the possession, shots and xG stats The same happened to Portugal but to a lesser extent as Uruguay were more clinical with their chances in 90 minutes... they had Cavani and Suarez.

Skocic has prime Azmoun and Taremi and we play like we have in all of those qualifiers. It's embarrassing.

Spain's D team would look better than ours on paper and be favourites. Portugal were European Champions, won the Conference league the year after the WC and outside of having one of the greatest players that's ever played the game also had a full squad of players playing in top leagues who man for man were worth more than our players.

Our squad values at the 2018 World Cup according to Transfermarkt - https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/worl...ettbewerb/WM18

Their squads were worth 10 TIMES what ours was!

Our most capped players were Hajisafi (94), Shojaei (74) and Ansarifard (64)
Portugal - RONALDO (150), Joao Moutinho (110), Bruno Alves (96), Pepe (95)
Spain - RAMOS (152), DAVID SILVA (121), INIESTA (127), BUSQUETS (103), PIQUE (98)

With that disparity in footballing ability and experience in mind, it's mad that we drew with Portugal (almost beat them at the end) and lost by 1 goal to Spain (failing to equalise by a few cms)... and people want to question the ability of those 2 teams given their progress in the rest of the tournament. Find another pro-Skocic narrative fellas.

Malkay jan, you used stats of the game to support your argument that Spain completely dominated Russia. Possession, shots, etc... I think you are making a logical argument here and others see that as well and think this is the post of the year.

Now go and look at the stats of Iran vs Spain and see how similar they are to Spain vs Russia. Almost identical!!!!! And look at the completely different conclusion people draw... Did I hear any of the Pro-CQ fans to say we got "completely dominated" by Spain??? Biased??? Selective use of stats???

[taremiscores]

Agreed. And all we have right now is offensive weapons as well. Allayhar, Taremi, Azmoun. Best trio in a long while...everywhere else we are not strong.

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We have great forwards - but that midfield we have cannot create the right opportunities for our forwards. They are on an island - that's why tactics and compactness and counter-football become so important.

I think in defense we are strong too - Hosseini, Kanaani and Pouraliganji (if he can get back to his great form).

[Kian H]

Malkay jan, you used stats of the game to support your argument that Spain completely dominated Russia. Possession, shots, etc... I think you are making a logical argument here and others see that as well and think this is the post of the year.

Now go and look at the stats of Iran vs Spain and see how similar they are to Spain vs Russia. Almost identical!!!!! And look at the completely different conclusion people draw... Did I hear any of the Pro-CQ fans to say we got "completely dominated" by Spain??? Biased??? Selective use of stats???

Exactly, people are so Damn biased and use only stats in their favour. Spain dominated us waaay more than they dominated Russia. I remember both matches clearly.
It goes back to what I said. People are not football fans in here. They are passionate Team Melli fans but dont really Care for football. I love this Forum for the news it gives me, and for the passion during and After match days. But you are a fool if you expect a proper football talk in here. Other than a few members of course

[O-ZoNe]

We have great forwards - but that midfield we have cannot create the right opportunities for our forwards. They are on an island - that's why tactics and compactness and counter-football become so important.

I think in defense we are strong too - Hosseini, Kanaani and Pouraliganji (if he can get back to his great form).

Lots of ifs in defence. I would take Colombias defence over ours any day. Yet CQ couldnt help them and only stagnated their offense. More and more we see he is not the right man for the job given TM today. CQ is a convenient name albeit an expensive one. I doubt he would risk his TM legacy (debatable what that is) to inherit this team.

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[Essi]

BTW, he's still not officially sacked so this thread could be closed

[nisfejahan]

BTW, he's still not officially sacked so this thread could be closed

Yes. If the firing is not official, then it is best to close the thread, as the title could be called "fake news".