DRAGAN SKOČIĆ MIGHT BE SACKED!

[Farzadfarhangni]

For all the Skocic haters:

Remember what you said. This is our chance to get to round of 16. We have the golden generation of the players and a very doable group. Skocic was what was holding us back. Please don't change your tune now that Skocic is out.

Also, I have a question for you. You keep mentioning that Skocic got result because of our fantastic players, not because of Skocic. In the same breath, you mention that Nourafkan and Nourollahi and Sarlak and Moharami and Gholizadeh etc... are garbage. (Used to say the same about Khalilzadeh and Kanaani and JB, but eased up after 5 or six games) Please try to keep your story straight.

[Ghermez Agha]

So let me get this straight........

People are happy because

A) Skocic has been sacked
B) Team is divided and we're are coach less....
C) Ghalenoei is becoming our manager for WC
D) CQ is not coming back

Exactly what i predicted ! Great job guys ! Greattttt Job guys..

Be a man and appologize for your BS that you caused team melli.

I’ll happily take my chances…..I know it’s a crap shoot to have him replaced at this point we are at, but it was a guarantee we would get embarrassed with Skocic and even the players themselves knew it. That should say a lot to you, if the players themselves cannot buy in and trust a coach and have looked piss poor in 2 out of 3 matches against WC level opponents I don’t see how one can deny something is very wrong with the coaching and tactics (or lack thereof in this case).

I want to be very clear though….I do not condone the way they went about it….but….this end result needed to happen a long time ago.

[Ostad_Goosfand]

For all the Skocic haters:

Remember what you said. This is our chance to get to round of 16. We have the golden generation of the players and a very doable group. Skocic was what was holding us back. Please don't change your tune now that Skocic is out.

Also, I have a question for you. You keep mentioning that Skocic got result because of our fantastic players, not because of Skocic. In the same breath, you mention that Nourafkan and Nourollahi and Sarlak and Moharami and Gholizadeh etc... are garbage. (Used to say the same about Khalilzadeh and Kanaani and JB, but eased up after 5 or six games) Please try to keep your story straight.

yes they are not good, as we saw vs good teams like korea and algeria. but compared to syria, iraq, lebanon, they are more than good enough. also moharrami is fine

[PSGman#19]

I’ll happily take my chances…..I know it’s a crap shoot to have him replaced at this point we are at, but it was a guarantee we would get embarrassed with Skocic and even the players themselves knew it. That should say a lot to you, if the players themselves cannot buy in and trust a coach and have looked piss poor in 2 out of 3 matches against WC level opponents I don’t see how one can deny something is very wrong with the coaching and tactics (or lack thereof in this case).

I want to be very clear though….I do not condone the way they went about it….but….this end result needed to happen a long time ago.

Nothing is guaranteed in football, and sometimes it is good not to trust players' intelligence who mostly are dumb af and are after their own interest

[oracle]

CONGratulations TO ALL.
this was historic move and this was
Accomplished By team melli fansfrom inside
and outside of iran. we team melli fans
showed WE REFUSE TO BE VICTIM OF
IFF AND MAJORITY HAVE SPOKEN .
offerING skocic supporters which are also
great persians and team melli fans to UNITE
AND HAVE A GREAT WORLD CUP.

[Ghermez Agha]

Nothing is guaranteed in football, and sometimes it is good not to trust players' intelligence who mostly are dumb af and are after their own interest

Right nothing is guaranteed in football….like if India plays England it’s not guaranteed England will win right?
You’re going way too far out of your way to make a failed point PSG. Look at the characters supporting Sko…..you have over emotional beiranvand, childish azmoun, shayeh loving shoja and noorafkan who’s career in TM depended and relies on Skocic. On the opposite side you have guys who have played under elite coaches like Taremi, a guy who have spent nearly 10 years in Europe like JB, someone who has only played in Europe like saman and abedz who has played under lots of good coaches in liga nos too. It’s very clear that the guys who have played football at the European level are against him because they know what real coaching looks like and with Sko they did not see it in him and the results against those WC level opponents was the evidence.

I’m not sure if you preferred a France 2010 situation where this explodes at the event itself but it’s better this gets addressed now than at the tournament where it would be as close to a guarantee that you like that the players will explode after an embracing opening game vs England. Now with either Nekounam or CQ (hopefully) we can have an OUNCE of faith something decent can happen.

[Hosseini]

On the money, great take.

Right nothing is guaranteed in football….like if India plays England it’s not guaranteed England will win right?

You’re going way too far out of your way to make a failed point PSG. Look at the characters supporting Sko…..you have over emotional beiranvand, childish azmoun, shayeh loving shoja and noorafkan who’s career in TM depended and relies on Skocic. On the opposite side you have guys who have played under elite coaches like Taremi, a guy who have spent nearly 19 years in Europe like JB, someone who has only played in Europe like saman and abedz who has played under lots of good coaches in liga nos too. It’s very clear that the guys who have played football at the European level are against him because they know what real coaching looks like and with Sko they did not see it in him and the results against those WC level opponents was the evidence.

I’m not sure if you preferred a France 2010 situation where this explodes at the event itself but it’s better this gets addressed now than at the tournament where it would be as close to a guarantee that you like that the players will explode after an embracing opening game vs England. Now with either Nekounam or CQ (hopefully) we can have an OUNCE of faith something decent can happen.

[Nokhodi]

I think this is an extremely unfair take. He's been playing well, he hasn't been the same player he was in 2008, but he's still been great for team morale, and on the pitch moving the ball forward at the very least.

Go watch the 1st half Iran Morocco. The section he was covering was a black hole. We might as well have played the first half with 10 men. His last good game for TM was Iran - Argentina in 2014.

[PSGman#19]

Right nothing is guaranteed in football….like if India plays England it’s not guaranteed England will win right?
You’re going way too far out of your way to make a failed point PSG. Look at the characters supporting Sko…..you have over emotional beiranvand, childish azmoun, shayeh loving shoja and noorafkan who’s career in TM depended and relies on Skocic. On the opposite side you have guys who have played under elite coaches like Taremi, a guy who have spent nearly 19 years in Europe like JB, someone who has only played in Europe like saman and abedz who has played under lots of good coaches in liga nos too. It’s very clear that the guys who have played football at the European level are against him because they know what real coaching looks like and with Sko they did not see it in him and the results against those WC level opponents was the evidence.
I’m not sure if you preferred a France 2010 situation where this explodes at the event itself but it’s better this gets addressed now than at the tournament where it would be as close to a guarantee that you like that the players will explode after an embracing opening game vs England. Now with either Nekounam or CQ (hopefully) we can have an OUNCE of faith something decent can happen.

lol, what india, a country that barely play football is doing there. why not also taking a Sunday league team vs real madrid example.

About the list of players supporting sko, I agree some should be sent to the trash bin. But let's forget the pro sko change with hajsafi 90% of pfdc hate or abedzadeh, responsible of SK loss and weak Algeria game

As it is unlikely we get cq, i doubt an Iranian coach will do better

[Prowess]

Skocic was currently our best choice to lead us to the world cup by virtue of his results in getting us there. It’s quite complacent and ungrateful to think any other hamvatani coach could’ve done the same…

Praying that CQ will be the replacement 🙏

Or else haghemooneh, as we pick batar over bad

[O-ZoNe]

Now with either Nekounam or CQ (hopefully) we can have an OUNCE of faith something decent can happen.

GA Jan with all do respect and CQ aside can you explain to me where your ounce of faith in Nekounam or potentially any other vatani coach comes from? What achievements or experience at the international or club coaching level are you referencing?

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[Superparsi]

Skocic was currently our best choice to lead us to the world cup by virtue of his results in getting us there. It’s quite complacent and ungrateful to think any other hamvatani coach could’ve done the same…
Praying that CQ will be the replacement 🙏
Or else haghemooneh, as we pick batar over bad

CQ is our best bet and I agree with you 100%. But also for you to say that we do not have any Iranian coaches who are more superior both tactically and being able to overall have the team perform way better than we have seen under Skocic. I personally only want CQ or the likes of Zidane or Felix Magath, basically professional, famous, educated, properly trained coaches. Having said that, also we have Ghalenoi, Daei, Nekounam, Golmohammadi who all have more experience, better resume and even better football players than Skocic ever was. Skocic is 3rd tier European coach who has not coached even 1 decent team under his resume. And even if not include resume, his results were shit! If you think beating Bahrain or a out of form Irag is a big accomplishment, than there is not much more to say from my end to say about this.

[milad_b]

I’ll happily take my chances…..I know it’s a crap shoot to have him replaced at this point we are at, but it was a guarantee we would get embarrassed with Skocic and even the players themselves knew it. That should say a lot to you, if the players themselves cannot buy in and trust a coach and have looked piss poor in 2 out of 3 matches against WC level opponents I don’t see how one can deny something is very wrong with the coaching and tactics (or lack thereof in this case).

I want to be very clear though….I do not condone the way they went about it….but….this end result needed to happen a long time ago.

Skocic was doing fine until all this nonsense started by our media and fans. When you belittle your national team melli coach don't expect the players and fans to respect him. Taremi already had problems with skocic and he took this chance to get rid of him. It was the biggest mistake ever. The tactics wasn't top level but we did play okay football. Remember its not just skocic , its vahid hashemian too.

I'll save this post and hopefully you don't regret this in 5 months time.

[Superparsi]

I think this is an extremely unfair take. He's been playing well, he hasn't been the same player he was in 2008, but he's still been great for team morale, and on the pitch moving the ball forward at the very least.

Man... As much as I love Shojaei and as a fan of him and his style of playing, he gave us gracious moments to remember and TM fans!! He always played his heart out for the our team and even at Osasuna, he had some amazing moments that I personally will always remember! 3 amazing world cup under his belt, khoshtip, bahoush, and most of all down to earth and very professional and respectful. Last gem of the 2000s amazing era! However he has declined in the past couple of years. He is nowhere near as quick and agile as he was and we have all noticed the decline in his speed for few years now. At the most we can use him as a sub or maybe as "leader" at this worldcup. Lets see what happens in the next couple of days and who is going to be our next coach! If by any chance CQ becomes our coach, there is a chance he might give Shojaei a chance.

[ben.walken]

Good riddance! He should have been announced only as a transitional coach and let go as soon as we qualified last March. However, I don’t agree with how it was done, and it clearly demonstrates the lack of management and experience in this federation.

What makes a good coach is not just result. Even though we did quite well against 2nd and 3rd tier Middle Eastern teams, but those wins were not because of a tactical mastermind rather we had much better players than our opponents in every position. What makes a good coach next to tactical awareness is leadership, and that is where Sokocic had failed and lost control of (or couldn’t achieve given his not so impressive resume). Leadership and the respect of your players are the attributes that makes managers such as Arsène Wenger as an example formidable, his presence on the bench was an insurance policy that the team is well managed, united and scandal free. That’s what Carlos Queiroz was for TM! You might not like his gameplan, but his management and control of the team was flawless.

Here is the concern though: TM will need to have a strong name that the players respect as a manager, however there is not enough time to explore foreign options specially with IFF’s administrative incompetence and the not so many friendlies for the new coach to explore. CQ is probably the best foreign option, but I personally don’t believe that he will be in helm. Which leaves us with Vatani coaches, and sadly the most likely scenario….