DRAGAN SKOČIĆ MIGHT BE SACKED!

[O-ZoNe]

People who have always been centrepiece amongst the hardcore anti-CQ cult on this site. Say it with your chest. The number of your posts against Queiroz...

http://www.persianfootball.com/forum...ne#post2551123

az mast keh bar mast I guess....

Nowadays everybody wanna talk like they got something to say

But nothing comes out when they move their lips

Just a bunch of gibberish

- Eminem

And now to quote you...pathetic. lol ya no secret I was no longer supporting CQ after 7-8 years. Been my stance all along. Didn't see enough to warrant keeping him. My personal opinion. Got issues with it...debate it like a civilized person. Stop making personal vendetta. It's childish.

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[mahestan]

Nowadays everybody wanna talk like they got something to say

But nothing comes out when they move their lips

Just a bunch of gibberish

- Eminem

And now to quote you...pathetic. lol ya no secret I was no longer supporting CQ after 7-8 years. Been my stance all along. Didn't see enough to warrant keeping him. My personal opinion. Got issues with it...debate it like a civilized person. Stop making personal vendetta. It's childish.

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Haji the norm is to support a coach for 7-8 years so that you can make WC appearances and mediocre AFC appearances... but it's OK! as long as we lost 1-0 or 2-0 and save face.

Selective memory is so prevalent with TM fans. People don't remember how TM was separated before WC2014, specially when CQ kicked out Rahmati and Aghili... The toxic environment that is Iranian football, it doesn't take much to split the camp, specially how sensitive and emotional our people are.

Skocic got sacked, it's going to take the mismanagement of IFF 2-3 months to get a replacement, but it's OK! Skocic is gone, who cares about training camps, or friendly matches... Skocic is gone! /sarcasm

[O-ZoNe]

Haji the norm is to support a coach for 7-8 years so that you can make WC appearances and mediocre AFC appearances... but it's OK! as long as we lost 1-0 or 2-0 and save face.

Selective memory is so prevalent with TM fans. People don't remember how TM was separated before WC2014, specially when CQ kicked out Rahmati and Aghili... The toxic environment that is Iranian football, it doesn't take much to split the camp, specially how sensitive and emotional our people are.

Skocic got sacked, it's going to take the mismanagement of IFF 2-3 months to get a replacement, but it's OK! Skocic is gone, who cares about training camps, or friendly matches... Skocic is gone! /sarcasm

I don't disagree with Cq on Rahmati, Aghili. Definitely didn't like how he handled khalatbari or Gucci. But coaches have the right to make selections and discipline. Just after 8 years amd coming up short when it counted the most...Bosnia, Japan, and even Portugal made it clear we hit the CQ ceiling. The track record proved true for Egypt and to some extent Colombia in shorter amount of time. We need to learn from past and improve the future. Not repeat it. Cq has not shown any change in strategy. Defense is great but if you can't score you can't win. Best defence is offence...or at least some chance at scoring...

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[teammelli91]

I don't disagree with Cq on Rahmati, Aghili. Definitely didn't like how he handled khalatbari or Gucci. But coaches have the right to make selections and discipline. Just after 8 years amd coming up short when it counted the most...Bosnia, Japan, and even Portugal made it clear we hit the CQ ceiling. The track record proved true for Egypt and to some extent Colombia in shorter amount of time. We need to learn from past and improve the future. Not repeat it. Cq has not shown any change in strategy. Defense is great but if you can't score you can't win. Best defence is offence...or at least some chance at scoring...

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I disagree with this one bro. Because as each individual post in our starting 11 were becoming stronger and more experienced, Carlos was starting to rely less on his midfielders/forwards in dropping back. Since 2014-2019 I noticed this. Which is why the football analysts were shocked as to why Carlos didn’t play more open before Diego Costa scored at the World Cup. Iran was attacking well and creating chances in the last 20 minutes. Not to make your point, what I’m saying is that from what I was seeing up until CQ left, I strongly believe that we were headed in the right direction in terms of strategical change. I think Carlos wanted a portion of his squad to gain more experience and grow. We would’ve seen a defensive Iran at this World Cup but an Iran who were much looser and not relying on Taremi/Azmoun and wingers to drop deep to defend.

[fairplay]

Are you guys sure that he actually been sacked 100%???

[Superparsi]

Skocic qualified our team to the WC. None of those domestic coaches have done that. He also did it in dominant fashion, after the wreckage of Wilmots.

Qualifying for a world cup, is no joke. Just ask Italy who got eliminated by a team more than 50 rankings below them. Or how about our 2006 WC campaign? We needed a miraculous comeback against Qatar, and a win against Jordan to qualify, even with the likes of Karimi, Daei, Mahdavikia, and Nekounam. Also, shouldn't we have qualified in 2002 by talent alone? We can all agree that Blazevic and Brankovic were at the very LEAST as good as Skocic.

Qualifying for a WC is a different animal, as a defensive blunder, penalty, corner kick, etc. can alter the course of the game. It's not as simple as the more talented team should win. Your coach should be a good GAME MANAGER. Skocic proved that against all odds, in qualifying our team.

We rolled the dice on an unproven Skocic, but he got the job done. It'd be absolutely RISKY to roll the dice AGAIN on a ANOTHER unproven domestic coach with the world cup 4 months away, when they've never even qualified our team for the world cup before!

Either CQ or Skocic.

I agree with most of above you mentioned but man, I can't agree with you with Skocic being a capable manager. He did great getting us out of the shit hole we were in, but he was simpy a "shock" we needed. Italy plays European teams and they have much more difficult road for qualification than Iran does playing with likes of Syria and Bahrain....
Now as far as Iranian coaches, We definitely do have a better coaches than we did 10-15-25 years ago. Skocic is very average coach. Even comparing to Iranian coaches. The man did not achieve anything in his coaching or playing career.

[taremiscores]

lol

در حالی که دبیر فدراسیون فوتبال عنوان کرده بود که دراگان #اسکوچیچ هنوز از سرمربیگری تیم ملی فوتبال ایران برکنار نشده و در خصوص ابقا یا برکناری این مربی، هیئت*رئیسه فدراسیون فوتبال تصمیم*گیری خواهد کرد؛ اما به نظر می*رسد این اتفاق هرگز رخ نخواهد داد. چرا که جلسات هیئت رئیسه فدراسیون فوتبال مدت*هاست به حدنصاب نمی*رسد و عملا امکان تشکیل جلسات آن وجود ندارد.

احسان اصولی، احمدرضا براتی، شهره موسوی، بهرام رضاییان، طهمورث حیدری، خداداد افشاریان و میرشاد #ماجدی اعضای فعلی و باقیمانده هیئت رئیسه فدراسیون فوتبال هستند و با توجه به اینکه حداقل باید ۸ عضو در جلسه هیئت رئیسه #فدراسیون فوتبال حاضر شوند تا این جلسه رسمیت پیدا کند در حال حاضر امکان تصمیم*گیری پیرامون سرمربیگری تیم ملی فوتبال را ندارند.

با توجه به اوضاع فعلی فدراسیون فوتبال هم برای عزل اسکوچیچ با مشکل مواجه است و هم برای انتخاب جانشین این مربی.

[Superparsi]

Big lol at people who say Sko is not good enough based on his resume and then want the likes of Daei or Nekunam. What exactly have these guys achieved? One has only coached mid table IPL teams and the other has the glorious history of losing to Saudi in Tehran and being the only team in the group not managing to beat the UAE!

If you wanna say it like that, then lets talk about Skocic and South Korea games and Algeria B team! You comparing apples to oranges dude. The 2010 team was completely different than the team today with different players and talent. This team was built by Carlos Queiroz, NOT Skocic. lets NOT forget about that. Now how can you say that this nobody shekam gondeh with weak character, is better than Daei or talented Nekounam who has done more in his short coaching career than that Skocic done in his entire career. Lets not compare these 3 based on their playing career achievements because there is NO COMPARE.
I guarantee you if Skocic was our head coach in 2008-2010, we would have gotten worst result than we did with Daei. You gotta be reasonable when compare our Greats Nekounam and Daei to this bobody Skocic. Weak character who has absolutely ZERO AUTHORITY and chrisma.

[tooleh khers]

90% of Skocic's team was CQ's team. If you are denying this, then facts have to meaning to you.
He lost everywhere? 2 back to back qualifications to the world cup (first ever accomplished, isn't it?), building arguably one of the strongest TM team in recent history (you don't agree that our 2018/2019 team was perhaps one of our best?), longest clean sheet in a WCQ (Isn't that a fact?), and our highest point in the world cup ever (Isn't that an accomplishment?). The irony is, you spew personal hatred for the man but you are unable to deny, respond or even argue the facts. What you do is ignore these facts, but then come back few hours later with another CQ is the worst and you are all idiots to think otherwise.
Also if he failed everywhere, then why is it that the Egyptian federation is begging him to re-sign!
Here is a good rational answer you could give: "Yes, CQ has had notable accomplishments in TM, he built a good a team, gave us back to back WC qualification and our highest world cup point. However, I despise and hate his gameplan. I don't enjoy defensive football. Also, I don't like his character." That is an answer I would respect, and has substance to discuss and argue.

All these players belong to Iran football and coaches who discovered them. CQ did not discover anybody here. I asked for names, name one player who is "CQ's player". Who?! to suggest that he developed these players seeing them three times a year after they had already reached the heights of their football is bending and presenting facts to suit your own perspective. People keep saying "back to back world cups" fact is he is the only one to be afforded the opportunity with not 1 team but two teams from 5! and did not have Ausie, Japan, Saudi in the group. Fact is we are supposed to qualify from those groups as top two and anything else is an utter failure.


Longest clean sheet, where did you get this? I am pretty certain we had clean sheets for years in 70s and 80s. Most point in a world cup?! Is this an achievement? you can make up all kinds of things and make it sound good the fact is advancement from the groups is an achievement getting 4 points is not. especially when it came on the back of an own goal and 0 goals in open play. This is a fact not you creating an achievement out of "most points ever at a world cup". Another fact for you mr. factual, whether Egyptians want him or not does not make him a success at Egypt. He did not win a cup with a team that has won the African cup the most of all African countries and he failed to qualify them to the world cup. He failed with Columbia, Portugal, Real Madrid, South Africa, Saudi Arabia, U.A.E...So it appears that you are the one that facts mean nothing to. The only place that did not boot him out fast and he did better than 50% is Iran. Get your facts straight.

[shahin2000]

CQ took us to 2 world cups and need I remind you the type of strategy he used to play these 6 games that resulted in 1 win (own goal by Morocco), 2 ties and 3 defeats:
2014:
Nigeria - Possession 69% to 31% in favor of Nigeria
Argentina - Poss 75% to 25% Argentina
Bosnia - Poss 66% to 34% Bosnia

2018 -
Morocco - Poss 68% to 32% Morocco
Spain - Poss 78% to 22% Spain
Portugal - Poss 74% to 26% Portugal

[nisfejahan]

Inspired by the heroic actions of IFF to fire Skocic, I came up with a brilliant idea to solve Iran's problems:

Let's have another revolution and bring back the great Reza Shah to lead the country. You may say, but he is dead, and I say that is a minor issue. I am sure he would be more than willing to get resurrected to lead Iran. After all, it was his country and Iran made great progress during his reign. You may say, but we got rid of his son, who wasn't doing too shabby, and he may be upset about the whole thing. I say, he will get over it. We can also resurrect his son, if he insists.

You may say, how do we know he can get resurrected, what if we cannot. Nobody has ever been resurrected before!! Who will lead us then? I say, don't worry about the details. We do not really have to worry about the next step. We are Iranians and we always do best when we act completely irrationally. Lets just have the revolution, even if we cannot resurrect him, I'm sure there will be some other Iranian who is willing to lead the country. I mean it cannot get worse than this can it?!!!

[taremiscores]

Inspired by the heroic actions of IFF to fire Skocic, I came up with a brilliant idea to solve Iran's problems:

Let's have another revolution and bring back the great Reza Shah to lead the country. You may say, but he is dead, and I say that is a minor issue. I am sure he would be more than willing to get resurrected to lead Iran. After all, it was his country and Iran made great progress during his reign. You may say, but we got rid of his son, who wasn't doing too shabby, and he may be upset about the whole thing. I say, he will get over it. We can also resurrect his son, if he insists.

You may say, how do we know he can get resurrected, what if we cannot. Nobody has ever been resurrected before!! Who will lead us then? I say, don't worry about the details. We do not really have to worry about the next step. We are Iranians and we always do best when we act completely irrationally. Lets just have the revolution, even if we cannot resurrect him, I'm sure there will be some other Iranian who is willing to lead the country. I mean it cannot get worse than this can it?!!!

I'm on board.

Reza Shah Ruhet Shad

[O-ZoNe]

CQ took us to 2 world cups and need I remind you the type of strategy he used to play these 6 games that resulted in 1 win (own goal by Morocco), 2 ties and 3 defeats:
2014:
Nigeria - Possession 69% to 31% in favor of Nigeria
Argentina - Poss 75% to 25% Argentina
Bosnia - Poss 66% to 34% Bosnia

2018 -
Morocco - Poss 68% to 32% Morocco
Spain - Poss 78% to 22% Spain
Portugal - Poss 74% to 26% Portugal

These figures on conveniently ignored because we got the worlds respect. Baba ask any khareji and all they remember is us losing after parking the bus. Even Moroccans I know keep saying how lucky we got to win. I get it they're fans of their NT but really we were not all that in 2 WC. We barely improved or changed playing style between 2014 and 2018. That's stagnation.

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[shahin2000]

These figures on conveniently ignored because we got the worlds respect. Baba ask any khareji and all they remember is us losing after parking the bus. Even Moroccans I know keep saying how lucky we got to win. I get it they're fans of their NT but really we were not all that in 2 WC. We barely improved or changed playing style between 2014 and 2018. That's stagnation.

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O-Zone jaan I completely agree with you. And that is what you hear from all the commenters when they see the 2 minute clip of the games on youtube. The style of play was absolutely childish. We could barely put 2 passes together. I am just not sure what is this love fest people have with CQ. I think after 8 years of coaching we have enough data to analyze and determine if we made any improvement under CQ. The answer is a flat out NO.
IFF or whatever ruling organization made a horrendous mistake by sacking Skocic. He got us out of the worst situation possible and qualified the team to WC. With less than 4 months to go, we sack our manager and expect to replace him with a miracle worker.

[mehdi13]

CQ took us to 2 world cups and need I remind you the type of strategy he used to play these 6 games that resulted in 1 win (own goal by Morocco), 2 ties and 3 defeats:
2014:
Nigeria - Possession 69% to 31% in favor of Nigeria
Argentina - Poss 75% to 25% Argentina
Bosnia - Poss 66% to 34% Bosnia

2018 -
Morocco - Poss 68% to 32% Morocco
Spain - Poss 78% to 22% Spain
Portugal - Poss 74% to 26% Portugal

Please remind us of Sgohcic’s masterpiece against Lebanon…. 73% possession but 0-1 after 90 min…