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    #61
    Originally posted by O-ZoNe View Post
    Results? What did we win with CQ? Defeating Morocco with own goal? What about Bosnia, Japan, Nigeria matches? Ya we had moments and victories but results are measured in standings. When results were on the line his teams cracked under pressure. His best result was being #1 fifa ranked in Asia...not much else to write home about after 8 years. Not ungrateful. He did more off the pitch for our football than on.

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    We're talking about Iran, you realize that right? You have to have perspective when you're not a power house in the world. He gave us hope. He gave us a reason to sit on the edge of the seat and feel excitement. We had a fighting chance to not just tie but maybe even win against the runner up of the WC in 2014. He had everyone shook and against he gave us hope right down to the last second of that 2018 world cup. No one has ever given us that. I'm used to us getting eliminated at the hands of Bahrain and shit most years we try to qualify. He put Asia on notice and made bigger teams question why it was so difficult to beat us. That was enjoyable for once, we haven't had that at any point before or after him. You say you're ungrateful but your perspective says otherwise. I don't doubt we can find another coach to do it again, but this talent pool isn't the best and if you think we can find a better coach in this span of time before a world cup you're delusional, if you think we need to play more attacking football, you definitely don't know the sport or again are delusional about how talented you think this team is. Even after the world cup, what tactician wants to come here with these conditions and lack of honest pay? If "what did we win with CQ" is your only argument then you clearly don't get it. Cracked under pressure LMAO stop, you're acting like we were a loaded Brazil team who under performed or let down the entire country.

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      #62
      Bosnia's squad was absolutely world class in that world cup.

      Is this an issue about not following club football? And perhaps not being aware how strong Pjanic, ibisevic, dzeko, spahic, lulic and their all-Bundesliga back four had been in the 2013-2014 season?

      Compare with our players and the barren wasteland of Iranian football in previous years...

      "Bosnia" keeps getting repeated, almost as much as "Orlando Pirates". Cyclical comments


      Again and again and again and again. Ad nauseum.

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        #63
        Azmoun is exactly right here. Kudos to him for his maturity and fahmideh mentality here


        https://twitter.com/Arya_Allahverdi/...csN8IsZhlGhk2Q
        Last edited by Hosseini; 07-12-2022, 03:14 PM.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Hosseini View Post
          Azmoun is exactly right here. Kudos to him for his maturity and fahmideh mentality here
          https://twitter.com/Arya_Allahverdi/...csN8IsZhlGhk2Q
          Link does not work. Maybe he deleted it. What did it say?

          Edited: Now it works. NM.

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            #65
            Originally posted by IranPuma View Post
            We're talking about Iran, you realize that right? You have to have perspective when you're not a power house in the world. He gave us hope. He gave us a reason to sit on the edge of the seat and feel excitement. We had a fighting chance to not just tie but maybe even win against the runner up of the WC in 2014. He had everyone shook and against he gave us hope right down to the last second of that 2018 world cup. No one has ever given us that. I'm used to us getting eliminated at the hands of Bahrain and shit most years we try to qualify. He put Asia on notice and made bigger teams question why it was so difficult to beat us. That was enjoyable for once, we haven't had that at any point before or after him. You say you're ungrateful but your perspective says otherwise. I don't doubt we can find another coach to do it again, but this talent pool isn't the best and if you think we can find a better coach in this span of time before a world cup you're delusional, if you think we need to play more attacking football, you definitely don't know the sport or again are delusional about how talented you think this team is. Even after the world cup, what tactician wants to come here with these conditions and lack of honest pay? If "what did we win with CQ" is your only argument then you clearly don't get it. Cracked under pressure LMAO stop, you're acting like we were a loaded Brazil team who under performed or let down the entire country.
            So he gave you hope? Great. Was the record for lowest possession in 2 WC in a row that inspiring? 98 team gave hope. Winning that match against USA and taking on one of the strongest Balkan teams to ever reach a WC. Recall Mihalovic had stated we will put 7 or 8 in Iran's net. Even Germany match was impressive with that squad.

            Hope is always there if you are a fan of TM. Yes CQ did some good but 8 years if all you can say is we narrowly lost or held the fort down for 93 min but lost or won on a last gasp OG...then you are focused on individual moments rather than the totality. Individual moments don't win crap...a complete performance does. You cannot win matches without the ball. You cannot set the lowest possession records to WC in a row and rely on a single moment. Maybe in Asia it works...not at the WC. CQ was great. First 4 or 5 years we needed him. His discipline. But the last 3-4 he overstayed and maid bank as one of the highest paid WC coaches.

            I'm glad fans are starting to realize with this incompetent IFF don't matter if Cq comes back. He can't and won't be able to do more than Skocic. Skocic was in a prime spot to prove naysayers and he was robbed of an opportunity as the media and some fans went on a personal attack. What team or federation fires a guy with Skocic record...absolutely astonishing.

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              #66
              Thank you Dragan all the best. You were not a good fit for international football but you will make a great club coach.

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                #67
                Originally posted by the matrix1 View Post
                Thank you Dragan all the best. You were not a good fit for international football but you will make a great club coach.
                exactly
                he is work horse and him being work horse it covers for histeams not having any system an charactor.
                which in club soccer in a marathon league
                he get results base on his work ethics.
                he be good for teams 5h place to 11th place in the table.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by kateb View Post
                  exactly
                  he is work horse and him being work horse it covers for histeams not having any system an charactor.
                  which in club soccer in a marathon league
                  he get results base on his work ethics.
                  he be good for teams 5h place to 11th place in the table.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by O-ZoNe View Post
                    Results? What did we win with CQ? Defeating Morocco with own goal? What about Bosnia, Japan, Nigeria matches? Ya we had moments and victories but results are measured in standings. When results were on the line his teams cracked under pressure. His best result was being #1 fifa ranked in Asia...not much else to write home about after 8 years. Not ungrateful. He did more off the pitch for our football than on.

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                    That small “own goal victory over Morocco” is the second match we’ve ever won in the WC. Ultimately it’s the result that matters. We also got 4 points in the group of death and had Taremi scored last minute we would’ve topped the group of death. All of this also after we qualified for consecutive world cups for the first time in our history ...
                    --------------------------Beiranvand-------------------
                    --Moharrami----Hosseini--Kanaani----Amiri--
                    ------------------Ezatolahi-----Ebrahimi--------------
                    --Jahanbaksh---------Ghoddos------------Taremi--
                    ---------------------------Azmoun----------------------


                    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by O-ZoNe View Post
                      Results? What did we win with CQ? Defeating Morocco with own goal? What about Bosnia, Japan, Nigeria matches? Ya we had moments and victories but results are measured in standings. When results were on the line his teams cracked under pressure. His best result was being #1 fifa ranked in Asia...not much else to write home about after 8 years. Not ungrateful. He did more off the pitch for our football than on.
                      There have been 52 WC matches with own goals in World Cup history...37 of those matches were won by the opposing team. I guess they all don't count either. smh

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._Cup_own_goals

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by diz View Post
                        There have been 52 WC matches with own goals in World Cup history...37 of those matches were won by the opposing team. I guess they all don't count either. smh

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._Cup_own_goals
                        No they all count. Question...how many were won last minute and 1-0? I'd be curious to know. Your link doesn't describe that. Also how many og games won with less than 30% possession in match. I suspect less than we can count on 1 hand. But I don't know tbh.

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                          #72
                          Originally posted by O-ZoNe View Post
                          No they all count. Question...how many were won last minute and 1-0? I'd be curious to know. Your link doesn't describe that. Also how many og games won with less than 30% possession in match. I suspect less than we can count on 1 hand. But I don't know tbh.
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                          Ey baba, the game was won. How many times has italy won with 30% possession, so what? Possession means zulch if team cant score. Even with an own goal the wining team gets 3 points same as wining 5 nil.

                          Wasnt in the spain game goal was scored against us with a diverted kick off the iranian defended? Have we cried and said that doesnt count? At the end of the day spain won that game.

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                            #73
                            He is not even fired. What an embarrassment all of this is. Just a game to insert CQ in some poor nation's pacheh. Bazargarmi for a no longer relevant coach.

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                              #74
                              Originally posted by tooleh khers View Post
                              He is not even fired. What an embarrassment all of this is. Just a game to insert CQ in some poor nation's pacheh. Bazargarmi for a no longer relevant coach.
                              tooleh khers khan

                              can you answer a direct question please with out mentioning
                              cq name .

                              How many points skocic get with tm at 2022wc?

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                                #75
                                Originally posted by kateb View Post
                                tooleh khers khan

                                can you answer a direct question please with out mentioning
                                cq name .

                                How many points skocic get with tm at 2022wc?
                                I do not know kateb khan. I can't see into the future. The way things are going we will not advance. Still, I am hoping we are able to rise to the occasion and give Iran fans a first advancement from the groups. More importantly I like team melli to show the world our brand of football. footballeh Irani...

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