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    #16
    The issues and division run deeper than Taremi. If Skocic etc thought they would be sorting out a situation by taking Taremi out of the team then it would be the equivalent of putting a plaster over a gun shot wound.
    He hasn’t been alone in his thoughts about the set up - our federation is a disaster. He is an internationally renowned striker who is fed up of the rubbish.
    He has first hand experience of what it is like to be a footballer with Iran and what the training etc is like - we merely have a small glimpse into that so we have to listen (albeit with an open mind) when he speaks.
    I will be supporting my country at the World Cup and hope that we turn things around but I am more excited this season to see the evolution of Allahyar in the championship and follow our other legionnaires. Which is a dam shame because I love the World Cup , I’ll have my wall chart up etc 🙂.

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      #17
      u guys kidding yourselves
      The one game he was missing in action, TM struggled mightily, shaans aavordim o bordo literally az koon dar avaardim & did so vs an utter kiri opponent..!
      The other time he was suspended for a TM game we got over-ran vs Japan@AC semis..!
      There isn’t a single other player in current/recent TM picture who’s absence would have a more grave consequences on TM’s overall performance..!
      3 losses are a near certain guaranty if we go gutter without him, even so Unified as a team which is even a lesser probability..!

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        #18
        Originally posted by inarsenewetrust View Post
        Yes kick him out and watch 0 pts and international embarassment.

        Taremi is the pride and name of Iranian football, not fucking skocic! Wake up people!

        Cant wait to pull up to world cup and commentators will be wondering where Iran's best player who scored against chelsea, juventus, liverpool, lazio, etc is and the answer will be oh they wanted to ensure the discipline of their 7th rate croatian coach with biggest job at interblock ljubijana and sanat naft abadan was enforced to the fullest extent.

        We spend decades looking for player like Taremi, spend years following his club football under microscope and celebrating his achievements because they bring credibility and honor to Iran, and HOPE that we use his potential to maximum in national team shirt. He gets us to world cup almost single handedly with azmoun and then we kick him out because he said the coach wasnt at an acceptable standard and in his TECHNICAL opinion after years of playing football at highest level under many different coaches (including some people's favorite branko) that this coach was not fit to lead the national team into world cup. Instead of listening we turn around and say he should be kicked out of team. Then we deserve the embarassment and ass ramming that will come our way in november
        1) Remember the first Taremi incident when you kept insisting that Taremi was not referring to Skocic. Remember how you thought it was stupid of Skocic for not inviting him and we would lose without him. I think it is clear now that Taremi was indeed referring to Skocic and we know that we did alright without him too.

        2) Go look at Taremi's performance against Algeria. Taremi for Porto and a troubled Taremi for TM have two very distinct performances.

        3) Koorosh's example of Roy Keane are important lesson for us. (There are many many others like that) We got to stop this player salari. Players have a role and never ever, more important than team unity.

        4) Taremi is a repeat offender. JB and others can be patched over but Taremi is a case of fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

        5) I don't care what the announcer is going to say when Taremi is not there. Ziyech was not there when we played them and announcer said he had a disagreement with the coach... what is the big deal???

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          #19
          Originally posted by Farzadfarhangni View Post
          1) Remember the first Taremi incident when you kept insisting that Taremi was not referring to Skocic. Remember how you thought it was stupid of Skocic for not inviting him and we would lose without him. I think it is clear now that Taremi was indeed referring to Skocic and we know that we did alright without him too.

          2) Go look at Taremi's performance against Algeria. Taremi for Porto and a troubled Taremi for TM have two very distinct performances.

          3) Koorosh's example of Roy Keane are important lesson for us. (There are many many others like that) We got to stop this player salari. Players have a role and never ever, more important than team unity.

          4) Taremi is a repeat offender. JB and others can be patched over but Taremi is a case of fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

          5) I don't care what the announcer is going to say when Taremi is not there. Ziyech was not there when we played them and announcer said he had a disagreement with the coach... what is the big deal???
          good. Drop him then. You bring up algeria I would like to ask you which player looked good vs algeria?

          When we get zero points in WC and international embarassment, its not gonna be mine, yours, or skocic or nourollahi's reputation that is damaged. We have no reputation in international world of football to be damaged in the first place. It will be Taremi's.

          Best thing he can do is simply say if some people would rather pretend reality isnt happening, I can step down.

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            #20
            The way Taremi has gone about everything relating to Skocic has been flat out wrong…..even though I can understand and agree with overall opinions he has on Skocic. Doesn’t mean that you don’t have a responsibility to still carry yourself as a professional and not spew bs the way he has. He needs to be taught a lesson bc he clearly did not learn anything the first 25 times he has f**ked up

            Take him to the tournament and leave his ass on the bench until he shows signs of growing up.
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              #21
              In the final qualifying stage for World Cup we won 3 games 1-0 with Taremi being the scorer of all three goals. That is how important he is to us.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Medzdidz View Post
                In the final qualifying stage for World Cup we won 3 games 1-0 with Taremi being the scorer of all three goals. That is how important he is to us.
                then how the hell can somebody turn around and say taremi wasnt important for TM while simultaneously claiming they are the beacon of objectivity on this forum?

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by BacheLot View Post
                  u guys kidding yourselves
                  The one game he was missing in action, TM struggled mightily, shaans aavordim o bordo literally az koon dar avaardim & did so vs an utter kiri opponent..!
                  The other time he was suspended for a TM game we got over-ran vs Japan@AC semis..!
                  There isn’t a single other player in current/recent TM picture who’s absence would have a more grave consequences on TM’s overall performance..!
                  3 losses are a near certain guaranty if we go gutter without him, even so Unified as a team which is even a lesser probability..!
                  I absolutely believe that Taremi, if not the best, is one of our best players. I am just saying an ununited team with its star is worse that a united team without its one shining star.

                  BTW, we absolutely dominated the Lebanon game. If you care about results, we won that game. If you care about performance, go look at the stats for that game. And don't forget about the 3-0 win over Syria without Taremi.

                  As for the Japan game, please don't say we got "run over" by Japan or you'll hear from some of CQ's fans. Remember, 3-0 lose to Japan don't count, only 2-0 lose to Korea matters.

                  Edited: Without

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by inarsenewetrust View Post
                    good. Drop him then. You bring up algeria I would like to ask you which player looked good vs algeria?

                    When we get zero points in WC and international embarassment, its not gonna be mine, yours, or skocic or nourollahi's reputation that is damaged. We have no reputation in international world of football to be damaged in the first place. It will be Taremi's.

                    Best thing he can do is simply say if some people would rather pretend reality isnt happening, I can step down.
                    What is your solution that gets us point after point in WC. Just pretend nothing happened and have things blow up before the England game in the locker room ala 2006???

                    I live in reality. Right now Skocic is the coach. This coach should sacrifice Taremi for the greater good of the team. If powers be can bring CQ in a month, great.
                    Taremi will be the first name on the roster and you promise us that we can move to round of 16. I will always support TM. Even if CQ loses all three games.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by inarsenewetrust View Post
                      then how the hell can somebody turn around and say taremi wasnt important for TM while simultaneously claiming they are the beacon of objectivity on this forum?
                      I never said he was not important. I have said multiple times that we have to sacrifice his talent for the unity of TM. I said we can do alright without him. I wish he had not caused any hashiyeh and he would be the first name on the list for me.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Farzadfarhangni View Post
                        What is your solution that gets us point after point in WC. Just pretend nothing happened and have things blow up before the England game in the locker room ala 2006???

                        I live in reality. Right now Skocic is the coach. This coach should sacrifice Taremi for the greater good of the team. If powers be can bring CQ in a month, great.
                        Taremi will be the first name on the roster and you promise us that we can move to round of 16. I will always support TM. Even if CQ loses all three games.
                        Ok you live in reality. 3 games 1-0 Win with Taremi as goalscorer. This is our reality.

                        skocic already dropped him and the team played so bad he has to reinvite him! He tried to take the same approach you say and it was a disaster vs lebanon.

                        IF skocic was so strong in decision making and man management this situation wouldn't have arisen in the first place

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                          #27
                          Remember everyone, it is highly likely that Skocic has been asked by IFF how he will deal with the situation and has shared his decision with IFF. Their decision to keep him is endorsement of Skocics plan. If he told them he will drop Taremi, they all know that.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by inarsenewetrust View Post
                            Yes kick him out and watch 0 pts and international embarassment.

                            Taremi is the pride and name of Iranian football, not fucking skocic! Wake up people!

                            Cant wait to pull up to world cup and commentators will be wondering where Iran's best player who scored against chelsea, juventus, liverpool, lazio, etc is and the answer will be oh they wanted to ensure the discipline of their 7th rate croatian coach with biggest job at interblock ljubijana and sanat naft abadan was enforced to the fullest extent.

                            We spend decades looking for player like Taremi, spend years following his club football under microscope and celebrating his achievements because they bring credibility and honor to Iran, and HOPE that we use his potential to maximum in national team shirt. He gets us to world cup almost single handedly with azmoun and then we kick him out because he said the coach wasnt at an acceptable standard and in his TECHNICAL opinion after years of playing football at highest level under many different coaches (including some people's favorite branko) that this coach was not fit to lead the national team into world cup. Instead of listening we turn around and say he should be kicked out of team. Then we deserve the embarassment and ass ramming that will come our way in november
                            How many of English, American and Welsh stars said the same thing about their coaches? After all, they all have rather weak coaches. Perhaps you should look up from your microscope every once in a while!!!

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Farzadfarhangni View Post
                              How many of English, American and Welsh stars said the same thing about their coaches? After all, they all have rather weak coaches. Perhaps you should look up from your microscope every once in a while!!!
                              You just tried to argue that taremi wasn’t a crucial player for team Melli. Me looking under microscope? You live in a parallel dimension not even occupied by the only other 2 people that support sko on a daily basis in this entire forum

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                                #30
                                Khar to khare? Are.
                                Man nemidonam che chizi fekr konam.
                                Hamechiz rikhte be ham dar haale haazer.

                                Amma behtarin bazikone TM (az nazare form o amalkard dar in do saale akhar) bayad dar jaame jahani baashe.
                                DROOD BAR AHMAD KASRAVI.

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