TAREMI OUT?

[oracle]

Hahaha im just kidding kateb Jan

after that
khodadad played in mashad against abumoslem
ABUMOSLEM FANS WHERE CHANTING
khodadad
concert daruish yadet nareh

[AGC]

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[DR Strangemoosh]

Karimi is not a forward. Scoring goals is not his job. His talent and skills are a lot harder to replace than Taremi's. Besides, Karimi before he got injured started in one of the most packed midfields even by Bayern Munich standards which is top of European level. While Taremi's goals are for Fc Porto. He would not even make the bench in Bayern.

Taremi "would not even make the bench in Bayern"

Karimi's skills are a "lot harder to replace than Taremi"

Taremi, one of the most unique hybrid players in the modern game.

https://breakingthelines.com/player-...n-in-attack-2/

I don't get pretending to be a TM fan and dumping on Taremi's attributes as a player (non-football issues aside for the moment).

The guy's been so crucial with his assists, goals and set piece winning for club and country. Most importantly, doing this consistently rather than showing just flashes of genius here and there. We wouldn't be where we are without him. What benefit is there in belittling his skills, and his achievements over the last few years ffs....

[Babak agha]

To prove Taremi is good, we have to shit on Karimi.
This mentality is oddly familiar.

[Roozbeh-G2006]

Taremi is brilliant in reading and anticipation of the game. He is a brilliant goal maker no doubt about that. He also has a very inflated ego, which in itself isn't a problem but his biggest downfall is that he talks his mind to the media.

[Taz]

You savages ought to stick to insulting CQ and praising Sgohcic, dragging arguably our greatest ever player whose work-ethic is incredible and his name through the mud is about the most damaging thing you could do to your already demolished credibility.

Guardian piece on our situation:

https://www.theguardian.com/football...squad-acrimony

[Roozbeh-G2006]

You savages ought to stick to insulting CQ and praising Sgohcic, dragging arguably our greatest ever player whose work-ethic is incredible and his name through the mud is about the most damaging thing you could do to your already demolished credibility.

Guardian piece on our situation:

https://www.theguardian.com/football...squad-acrimony

Huh? Who is "dragging the greatest ever player whose work-ethic is incredible and his name through the mud"? Are you talking about Taremi? He is the one who has fucked everything up! He is the one who has damaged our chances. Not once! but twice!

[DR Strangemoosh]

To prove Taremi is good, we have to shit on Karimi.

This mentality is oddly familiar.

Lol, I don't know how to bash Skocic anymore for my agenda, so let's start shitting on Karimi now. A predictable lost of names will follow after Karimi.

No one has to prove to you, or any other member, that Taremi is good.

If only you could take a step back and apply your own logic to yourself and to some of the other posters here. Non-stop "Agenda, agenda!" Take a look at your own fking agenda ffs. Tired of all this hypocrisy

THis mentality is oddly familiar.

[DR Strangemoosh]

You savages ought to stick to insulting CQ and praising Sgohcic, dragging arguably our greatest ever player whose work-ethic is incredible and his name through the mud is about the most damaging thing you could do to your already demolished credibility.

Guardian piece on our situation:

https://www.theguardian.com/football...squad-acrimony

"Agenda ! AgnEADA!"

[Taz]

Huh? Who is "dragging the greatest ever player whose work-ethic is incredible and his name through the mud"? Are you talking about Taremi? He is the one who has fucked everything up! He is the one who has damaged our chances. Not once! but twice!

He lies just behind Kateb in rankings of individuals who have achieved the most in our 2-year war against terrorism. We will finally reap the fruits of these martyrs and their labour come September and our team will be stronger for it.

Regardless, don't talk about his 'ego', a man's psyche is as clear as day on the football pitch and rest assured Mehdi has no ego whatsoever, he is the biggest team player going, continually making sacrifices for the good of the team.

[Babak agha]

No one has to prove to you, or any other member, that Taremi is good.

If only you could take a step back and apply your own logic to yourself and to some of the other posters here. Non-stop "Agenda, agenda!" Take a look at your own fking agenda ffs. Tired of all this hypocrisy

THis mentality is oddly familiar.

Can you say anything else than ffs, ffs....haha joking.
Also nobody has to prove to me Taremi is good. I already know he's good and one of the best players we've ever had. Unlike others I don't have an idol and thus don't have to shit on others that disagree with my idol. Whoever thinks Taremi is not a good player is either blind, plain stupid or adores someone else so much (even more than their parents) and can't have it that Taremi is criticizing their idol. This also goes for Karimi and Azizi etc. Etc.

I have no agenda at all, unlike you. You say you have no agenda but then say I want Skocic to be sacked so that we can be successful. Very interesting. Also what do you think my agenda is exactly?

You can just say I want Skocic to be sacked. That would be your opinion and then you could go ahead and tell people why against all odds this would be beneficial for TM, knowing the options we have to replace him with.

I'm beginning to get a bit tired here, but the above has nothing to do with CQ. CQ is not and will not be an option.

Do I agree that he can bring unity to our team (only thing that can be achieved now), yes I do. But this is totally irrelevant to our situation now.

Skocic is our coach and most likely will be at the WC as well. Do I think he's shit because I think CQ will bring unity, no I'm no child ffs. Do I think fans have helped create this divide, I certainly do. Unnecessary bringing up a coach from the past to begin with (even if you think CQ is a better option), asking for the current coach to be sacked and knowing that realistically there is no better coach there to replace him.

Just sit down, chill, watch the games and try to enjoy ffs. We on paper have no chance to advance with any coach, even if we had the best preparation. Our captain can't even run properly ATM. A win from USA would be sweet and anything on top of that is miracle.

This post got way too long for such a simple thing to understand, FFS.

[DR Strangemoosh]

Can you say anything else than ffs, ffs....haha joking.
Also nobody has to prove to me Taremi is good. I already know he's good and one of the best players we've ever had. Unlike others I don't have an idol and thus don't have to shit on others that disagree with my idol. Whoever thinks Taremi is not a good player is either blind, plain stupid or adores someone else so much (even more than their parents) and can't have it that Taremi is criticizing their idol. This also goes for Karimi and Azizi etc. Etc.

I have no agenda at all, unlike you. You say you have no agenda but then say I want Skocic to be sacked so that we can be successful. Very interesting. Also what do you think my agenda is exactly?

You can just say I want Skocic to be sacked. That would be your opinion and then you could go ahead and tell people why against all odds this would be beneficial for TM, knowing the options we have to replace him with.

I'm beginning to get a bit tired here, but the above has nothing to do with CQ. CQ is not and will not be an option.

Do I agree that he can bring unity to our team (only thing that can be achieved now), yes I do. But this is totally irrelevant to our situation now.

Skocic is our coach and most likely will be at the WC as well. Do I think he's shit because I think CQ will bring unity, no I'm no child ffs. Do I think fans have helped create this divide, I certainly do. Unnecessary bringing up a coach from the past to begin with (even if you think CQ is a better option), asking for the current coach to be sacked and knowing that realistically there is no better coach there to replace him.

Just sit down, chill, watch the games and try to enjoy ffs. We on paper have no chance to advance with any coach, even if we had the best preparation. Our captain can't even run properly ATM. A win from USA would be sweet and anything on top of that is miracle.

This post got way too long for such a simple thing to understand, FFS.

Kheily baamazeh hasti

Keep mocking members for writing "long posts which say nothing" whilst doing the same yourself

Keep selecting narratives with your buddy Tooleh Khers

Appreciating your own hypocrisy and double standards ham khoob chiziyeh

[Hosseini]

For the team's success: Taremi > Skocic. That's the objective reality and should close this case for good

[DR Strangemoosh]

Can you say anything else than ffs, ffs....haha joking.
Also nobody has to prove to me Taremi is good.

Pesareh baamazeh, weren't you the one who just said "To prove Taremi is good..."?

I know you're younger than a lot of us but accusing members who have been around on these forums since the birthplace of the internet of "having an agenda" is not a good look. It's disrespectful.

My only agenda is for TM to do well. If my agenda was CQ over TM, then I wouldn't have criticised him as much during his time.

Some could argue that your agenda is to protect Skocic at all costs to the detriment of TM

See, anyone can play your game, baamazeh

[AGC]

This thread is spiralling out of control.
Its like the contention is floating either bc ppl lack the basic skill of argumentation or it is a result of ppl deliberatly trying to force agendas.

No one can deny taremis abilities. Absolutely no one. Either the key issue is his discipline in the sense of communication in public or it is an utilitarian issue IE that we the most important thing is to maximize efficiency.

Only people smoking crack can seriously question Taremis skills and competence on the field. He is arguably Irans most complete player in our history. He is also competent to start playing for any top team in the world. Why do we need to drag his name in the mud?

The key issue is twofold first of all does maximizing starting elevens skill set Trump discipline? The other is of no what disciplinarian measures are needed? One May argue that he is completely innocent in this mess we are in but one has to argue hard and have little succes doing so.

To sun it up we need to keep to the topic and argue our standpoints cleanly. No need to drag his name and character into the mud.