Central midfielder

[Iran_19]

I will not take Saeid Ezzatollahi to WC. If coach is fair enough, he should move on with this guy for this WC, until he puts his shit together(if ever he does), he is assuming he will make the squad even if he play in his back yard. At 25/26 this is ridiculous tbh.
I don't care where he play, play for Sanat naft, Nassaji whatever, but at least PLAY and SHINE!!!
My CM choices are:
1. Omid Ebrahimi
2. Ahmad Nourrollahi
3 Ali Karimi
4. Milad Sarlak
5. Roozbeh Cheshmi

I will include Yasin there but i am 100% we play with 2 defensive midfielders or someone in between that can cover the field and run alot.
Saman to me is more winger. Specially at WC stage and no wonder CQ used him there mostly.
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[Ghermez Agha]

Yasmin Salmani and Paya Pichkhah are the future CMs of TM. They both must be invited to the next camp and be given playing time and if they look good…..they are our best chance at having competent CMs in the World Cup. Ali Karimi is doing great in his two games so far for kayseri so he is the experience in the MF we need and have those two young guns next to him pending they do well vs senegal and Uruguay (if that game happens).

[inarsenewetrust]

Well Saman at that time was a winger or even CF mostly.

Since then he played games in hardest league in the world as CM, wing back, etc and did quite well with defensive duties.

I certainly consider him a CM option. Yasin is also currently playing as an 8 for sepahan.

I would go:

1. Ali Karimi
2. Omid Ebrahimi
3. Vahid Amiri
4. Saman Ghoddos
5. Yasin Salmani
6. Ahmad Nourollahi

Of Course this is all assuming Ezatolahi doesn't have a late ressurection...

If we play a midfield 3:

Karimi----Ebrahimi---Ghoddos

Is competent enough.

[Iran_19]

Yasmin Salmani and Paya Pichkhah are the future CMs of TM. They both must be invited to the next camp and be given playing time and if they look good…..they are our best chance at having competent CMs in the World Cup. Ali Karimi is doing great in his two games so far for kayseri so he is the experience in the MF we need and have those two young guns next to him pending they do well vs senegal and Uruguay (if that game happens).

I haven't seen this Paya guy but Yasin is not DM and surely not ready to play for this WC. Making the squad for him will be huge experience though.

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[Iran_19]

There is no way guys like Ghoddos, Yasin play as CM in this WC.
Let's talk about something realistic.

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[inarsenewetrust]

There is no way guys like Ghoddos, Yasin play as CM in this WC.
Let's talk about something realistic.

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It depends what you are talking about. Can they play in a 2 man center mid line? No. But can they play as part of a 3? Yes. They are doing that/have done that for their clubs. Having 3 CM is only possibly way we can compensate for weak mid line anyways. Karimi and ebrahimi can be the more defensive guys, and we have a saman or Yasin who are also contributing defensively (if saman can shut down Tottenham’s son as wing back he has fitness to play in a 3 man midfield in World Cup…) but key, in possession they give us ability to connect to forward guys.

Let’s be realistic, somebody like Nourollahi in possession is a mess vs Asian opposition, god help when he gets pressed by the English and Americans.

[Iran_19]

I honestly can't come and choose with conviction two players that can definitely be the main options there and that is really worrying.
1.AK.: Good defensive abilities. Reading and intercepting but lack speed, doesn't cover that much ground for top level
2. Nour, Cover lots of ground, better offensive abilities but his passes and defensive game is just average at best.
3.Ebrahimi: Decent speed, cover lots of ground, decent passing for DM but age is the main concern
4 Sarlak: Pure DM, Ok speed, but average passing at best
5.Cheshmi, pure DM, lack speed though.


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[Iran_19]

It depends what you are talking about. Can they play in a 2 man center mid line? No. But can they play as part of a 3? Yes. They are doing that/have done that for their clubs. Having 3 CM is only possibly way we can compensate for weak mid line anyways. Karimi and ebrahimi can be the more defensive guys, and we have a saman or Yasin who are also contributing defensively (if saman can shut down Tottenham’s son as wing back he has fitness to play in a 3 man midfield in World Cup…) but key, in possession they give us ability to connect to forward guys.

Let’s be realistic, somebody like Nourollahi in possession is a mess vs Asian opposition, god help when he gets pressed by the English and Americans.

If you play Karimi, Ebrahimi, Yasin there. Then it leave you with one option in midfielder which is JB.(most likely)
Unless we play 4-3-3, which i highly doubt
I rather 4-4-2 with two fast wingers and 2 pure DM. Just like 2018.

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[inarsenewetrust]

Let’s talk about realistic. There is no way in hell cheshmi can play as a CM in a World Cup. That’s a real non topic. Even for SS he is only playing at CB…no way he has speed or technical ability to play in CM line suddenly vs world best

[inarsenewetrust]

If you play Karimi, Ebrahimi, Yasin there. Then it leave you with one option in midfielder which is JB.(most likely)
Unless we play 4-3-3, which i highly doubt
I rather 4-4-2 with two fast wingers and 2 pure DM. Just like 2018.
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I really don’t think we were playing 442 in wc…we had Saeid and ebrahimi as DMs and Amiri next to them as slightly more advanced CM whose job was both defensive and to transition game to offense. ARJ and taremi/ansarifard we’re playing as wingers but dropping very deep to make midfield 5 in possession basically.
Azmoun was alone up top.

442 will leave us badly exposed in CM line. ARJ is not a fast winger by any means, specially in transition. And then we have to include another underperforming winger on opposite side (Gholi) which will further weaken us defensively. Doesn’t make a lot of sense

If you look globally at teams that play 442 or 343 (with 2 CM) they have two extremely mobile, but technically and physically dominant CM. Think atletico Madrid : Saul and Koke, Chelsea: kovacic and Kante, Brighton have somebody like caicedo who runs equivalent of 5 people.

It doesn’t make sense to play less guys in our weakest position…at least with extra body we can cover for their individual weaknesses

[Iran_19]

I really don’t think we were playing 442 in wc…we had Saeid and ebrahimi as DMs and Amiri next to them as slightly more advanced CM whose job was both defensive and to transition game to offense. ARJ and taremi/ansarifard we’re playing as wingers but dropping very deep to make midfield 5 in possession basically.

Azmoun was alone up top.

442 will leave us badly exposed in CM line. ARJ is not a fast winger by any means, specially in transition. And then we have to include another underperforming winger on opposite side (Gholi) which will further weaken us defensively. Doesn’t make a lot of sense

Well, we played 4-2-3-1 to be more exact but then this changed alot during the game, but we mainly played with 2 pure DM both in 14 and 18.


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[Iran_19]

Let’s talk about realistic. There is no way in hell cheshmi can play as a CM in a World Cup. That’s a real non topic. Even for SS he is only playing at CB…no way he has speed or technical ability to play in CM line suddenly vs world best

Cheshmi playing CM for eses this year and played many times in league before that
Nothing new.

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[Iran_19]

Just this week that was eses line up
Hardani, Silva, Aref, Jalali
Rezavand, Cheshmi, Mehdipour
Yagma, Sajjad, Mohebbi
4-3-3


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[Nokhodi]

Cheshmi moves slow and has no creativity. Even defensively we have better options.


Truly though it is probably our worst center midfield ever ! I can’t think of a weaker center mid lineup in our modern football history.

I’d go with Ghodoos, Ebrahimi and Ali Karimi.

And you all know it pains me to include Ali Karimi.

If cq comes in though don’t be surprised if Saeed starts. CQ loves him and played him when he was riding the bench in Russia and Belgium too.

[inarsenewetrust]

Well, we played 4-2-3-1 to be more exact but then this changed alot during the game, but we mainly played with 2 pure DM both in 14 and 18.


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So I agree with you, 2 pure DM, and a CM to provide additional cover but also transitional creativity. Amiri had HUGE defensive role in wc. its not like he was just hanging out... Thats why as a combo Saeid, Omid, Amiri gave enough defensive presence.

We need to recreate that. Karimi replacing Saeid, Omid yes age went up but still great shape and now has experience of big stage, in team of the season in qatar plus successful year in belgium, and then we can either use somebody like ghoddos who is totally different player compared to 4 years ago, amiri again, or another option like Yasin to finish off 3 man.

With pure 2 man CM, it will be suicide. Suddenly role of those 2 DM you mention is not purely defensive, they also have to be significantly involved in playmaking, connecting to CFs, etc. Nobody we have can do that combination of work right now...