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    #31
    Originally posted by Iran_19 View Post
    Lol you don't want include a guy who played in all qualifiers and include some 1 who barely even played for TM.
    Thank god you are not the coach dude lol
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    no thank god you are not coach to put in roozbeh there How many games did he play of qualifiers?? Imagine roozbeh chesmi in 442...I mean seriously is that a real idea?

    Some of nourollahi's games have been truly shocking. Guy is one of most dast o pa che players maybe ever in TM. Agility zero, looks like he is tripping over himself all the time, range of pass zero. The cameos mehdipour had vs korea and algeria were way better than anything nour showed in those games!

    Yeah I know he gives energy and runs around, what the hell is the use when he is giving turnover 24/7 and defensively totally clueless too. Who can forget those critical defensive fuck ups for PP during ACL... Who can forget his masterpiece pk giveaway vs Ulsan. The guy is so prone to do clumsy stuff and not reading danger properly.

    I dont see many/any categories mehdipour is truly weaker than him...certainly he is in far better form.

    And lets at least be objective. He was benched for large portions of season in al shottor for key games too instead of some uzbek kid...His form has dropped a lot since PP days and reflected in his games for TM. I know you think ghoddos is a nobody getting benched in england but I think getting benched by 2 danish NT starters is a little different than for Aziz Ganiev in Shabab UAE league

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      #32
      Originally posted by inarsenewetrust View Post
      no thank god you are not coach to put in roozbeh there How many games did he play of qualifiers?? Imagine roozbeh chesmi in 442...I mean seriously is that a real idea?

      Some of nourollahi's games have been truly shocking. Guy is one of most dast o pa che players maybe ever in TM. Agility zero, looks like he is tripping over himself all the time, range of pass zero. The cameos mehdipour had vs korea and algeria were way better than anything nour showed in those games!

      Yeah I know he gives energy and runs around, what the hell is the use when he is giving turnover 24/7 and defensively totally clueless too. Who can forget those critical defensive fuck ups for PP during ACL... Who can forget his masterpiece pk giveaway vs Ulsan. The guy is so prone to do clumsy stuff and not reading danger properly.
      I never excluded the guy who played the most minutes among almost all players(nour) for Cheshmi. Lool
      I never said Cheshmi should start, or even make the squad i said these are options we have as DM. Go back and read again.

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        #33
        Originally posted by inarsenewetrust View Post
        no thank god you are not coach to put in roozbeh there How many games did he play of qualifiers?? Imagine roozbeh chesmi in 442...I mean seriously is that a real idea?

        Some of nourollahi's games have been truly shocking. Guy is one of most dast o pa che players maybe ever in TM. Agility zero, looks like he is tripping over himself all the time, range of pass zero. The cameos mehdipour had vs korea and algeria were way better than anything nour showed in those games!

        Yeah I know he gives energy and runs around, what the hell is the use when he is giving turnover 24/7 and defensively totally clueless too. Who can forget those critical defensive fuck ups for PP during ACL... Who can forget his masterpiece pk giveaway vs Ulsan. The guy is so prone to do clumsy stuff and not reading danger properly.

        I dont see many/any categories mehdipour is truly weaker than him...certainly he is in far better form.

        And lets at least be objective. He was benched for large portions of season in al shottor for key games too instead of some uzbek kid...His form has dropped a lot since PP days and reflected in his games for TM. I know you think ghoddos is a nobody getting benched in england but I think getting benched by 2 danish NT starters is a little different than for Aziz Ganiev in Shabab UAE league
        Ghoddos couldn't make it during CQ, couldn't make it with Sko.
        At some point you guys should stop finding excuses.
        He is not the solution for CM. Onam to WC.
        Forget about it dude.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Iran_19 View Post
          I never excluded the guy who played the most minutes among almost all players(nour) for Cheshmi. Lool
          I never said Cheshmi should start, or even make the squad i said these are options we have as DM. Go back and read again.
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          So you rate cheshmi over mehdipour as potential option for CM. And your favored formation is 442. So you think cheshmi in 2 man midfield is a more realistic choice than mehdipour? And then you mention speed...

          Lets just agree to disagree

          Nour lack of game time in UAE says it all really

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            #35
            Originally posted by inarsenewetrust View Post
            So you rate cheshmi over mehdipour as potential option for CM. And your favored formation is 442. So you think cheshmi in 2 man midfield is a more realistic choice than mehdipour? And then you mention speed...

            Lets just agree to disagree

            Nour lack of game time in UAE says it all really
            To me Mehdipour is more offensive. I was talking more as pure DM obviously. Nour is in between.
            Regarding Ghoddos, losing spot to like Nour, Sarlak it say more about him than anything else tbh

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              #36
              Hajsafi deserves to go to WC for his AEK Athens performances

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                #37
                Originally posted by inarsenewetrust View Post
                So you rate cheshmi over mehdipour as potential option for CM. And your favored formation is 442. So you think cheshmi in 2 man midfield is a more realistic choice than mehdipour? And then you mention speed...

                Lets just agree to disagree

                Nour lack of game time in UAE says it all really
                Among all CDM there is no one with decent speed other than Ebrahimi but then he is old.
                Doesn't matter who you play there,, we lack speed this time.
                And this is not play station at your apartment dude, no coach start a guy(mehdipour) who barely played for TM in such important tournament.
                Yes Branko did with Ando but that was Ando lol

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Iran_19 View Post
                  To me Mehdipour is more offensive. I was talking more as pure DM obviously. Nour is in between.
                  Regarding Ghoddos, losing spot to like Nour, Sarlak it say more about him than anything else tbh

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                  Mehdipour offensive[emoji23] haji ure so off with ur points..

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Armin98 View Post
                    Mehdipour offensive[emoji23] haji ure so off with ur points..
                    More offensive than cheshmi, AK, Sarlak, for sure.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Iran_19 View Post
                      Among all CDM there is no one with decent speed other than Ebrahimi but then he is old.
                      Doesn't matter who you play there,, we lack speed this time.
                      And this is not play station at your apartment dude, no coach start a guy(mehdipour) who barely played for TM in such important tournament.
                      Yes Branko did with Ando but that was Ando lol
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                      CQ started Majid H. with 2 caps against Spain and Portugal. He was better than Seyed Jalal in 2014.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by mehdi13 View Post
                        CQ started Majid H. with 2 caps against Spain and Portugal.
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                          #42
                          Anyway everyone has their own preference but the reality is we are so bad in CM

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by mehdi13 View Post
                            CQ started Majid H. with 2 caps against Spain and Portugal. He was better than Seyed Jalal in 2014.
                            Great point. Just because somebody played in qualifiers doesnt secure their spot for tournament. We see it time and again. Amiri also never played CM for us before WC. Milad was the LB in all of qualifiers and suddenly hajsafi took the spot.

                            And CQ always played with 3 central midfielders, the break down of which ones were defensive minded and which were offensive minded maybe changed at times, but there were always 3. Either 4141, 433, 4231.

                            Never did we play 442. There is a clear reason for that, one that our friend mahbod keeps mentioning (CM is weak line for us) but then suddenly keeps insisting on playing only 2 players there.

                            Not only would we be much weaker than say americans in terms of personnel in center of park, with his suggestions we would also have 1 less guy there than them!

                            WE should try to cover our weaknsesses, not expose them more

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Iran_19 View Post
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                              yeah but he still dropped Jalal for Majid in the first place despite him starting all games in qualifiers

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by inarsenewetrust View Post
                                Great point. Just because somebody played in qualifiers doesnt secure their spot for tournament. We see it time and again. Amiri also never played CM for us before WC. Milad was the LB in all of qualifiers and suddenly hajsafi took the spot.

                                And CQ always played with 3 central midfielders, the break down of which ones were defensive minded and which were offensive minded maybe changed at times, but there were always 3. Either 4141, 433, 4231.

                                Never did we play 442. There is a clear reason for that, one that our friend mahbod keeps mentioning (CM is weak line for us) but then suddenly keeps insisting on playing only 2 players there.

                                Not only would we be much weaker than say americans in terms of personnel in center of park, with his suggestions we would also have 1 less guy there than them!

                                WE should try to cover our weaknsesses, not expose them more
                                You miss the point. You change your 442 anytime you want. That is how he sent the team to play but obviously we played more 4-2-3-1 or some time 4-5-1 or 4-1-4-1 depending on the situation.
                                Our team played really compact under CQ. That is why D core and DM looked great because it was not about individual players, everyone was contributing to defense.

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