Torabi in or out of Team Melli?

[a_m]

Killing of innocent people is absolutely wrong, wearing a little black arm band to show solidarity with the people killed there’s nothing wrong with that that’s not even a political statement that just showing that you showing respect to the lives that have been lost that being said,

I don’t think anybody should be banned from the team, because of their political views but it’s very difficult to show a player respect when he is not one with the people also

[OFFSIDE_1]

He will destroy the chemistry on the team. So yes, ban him.

[Babak_Shirazi]

If Carlos choses him he should play, no matter what his religious or political views are.

[BacheLot]

He will destroy the chemistry on the team. So yes, ban him.

i feel same..!
footbalesham mali nistto we got plenty better overall wingers/attackers to replace him with..! i'd gladly take Zahedi in his place any day and Karim and few others can easily switch to winger attacker roles to completely nullify his absence in TM picture ...!
tbh, he has always strike me as a sorta of a TM morality police (IR's TM squad jaasus)..!lol he's always got that creepy, quiet suspect look upon him... !! i ran into bunch of our boys in Moscow red square during the WC18 and all seemed welcoming and receptive to my greetings and cheers for their lively performances and my requests for taking pics with.... but this fker just stood silent staring at me with mashkooki eyes as if i had ulterior motives ... and the whole time seemed to be taking notice of how all other TM players were behaving and taking mental notes of it all for his reports to mullahs afterwards..??

[DR Strangemoosh]

i feel same..!
footbalesham mali nistto we got plenty better overall wingers/attackers to replace him with..! i'd gladly take Zahedi in his place any day and Karim and few others can easily switch to winger attacker roles to completely nullify his absence in TM picture ...!
tbh, he has always strike me as a sorta of a TM morality police (IR's TM squad jaasus)..!lol he's always got that creepy, quiet suspect look upon him... !! i ran into bunch of our boys in Moscow red square during the WC18 and all seemed welcoming and receptive to my greetings and cheers for their lively performances and my requests for taking pics with.... but this fker just stood silent staring at me with mashkooki eyes as if i had ulterior motives ... and the whole time seemed to be taking notice of how all other TM players were behaving and taking mental notes of it all for his reports to mullahs afterwards..??

He looked, and acted, genuinely scary in Red Square.. Literally the polar opposite of meeting Mojahed Khaziravi back in 2001

He is always with Ali Gholizadeh... Wonder what he thinks....

[AGC]

Rule no 1 for me: never act they political akhunds and their monkey goons do.

Torabi in. But if he cant get along and compromise team unity, kick him out.

[IranFTW]

Once again:
You can't be an IR supporter without supporting the rape and murder of innocent people. It is THAT simple. All the excuses about being naive and uninformed no longer apply. The evidence is just too overwhelming. Torabi's problem isn't that he doesn't know. It's that HE DOESN'T CARE.

Thankfully on Iranian social media this issue is not a debate, but there are a lot of younger people here and also a few not-so-subtle regime supporters. I have nothing to say to the parasites, but the younger ones being duped by regime supporters need to understand that supporting this regime is not a political matter. It is a moral matter. It's about basic human decency. Even the most naive supporter would have turned their back on this regime by now. There is ZERO room for giving scum like Torabi the benefit of the doubt.

Just as Nazi supporters would never benefit from democracy in the modern world, IR supporters don't get to hide behind "free speech" to get away with defending rapists and child killers.

This is a regime that literally killed an innocent girl, then went on to kill multiple other women (including teenagers) who took part in protesting the original crime!!

What kind of cockroach would be "neutral" about this let alone support it, and what kind of genius would think of murder, torture and rape as "political disagreement"??

To support this regime you have to be a sociopath. Plain and simple and without any exaggeration. Few people are brutalized as sadistically by their own "government" as Iranians are. If you support this regime, I have nothing to say to you. But if you supposedly care about your people, get a clue and stop this foolish moral relativism toward cockroaches who turn a blind eye to the murder, rape and torture of your people. Thankfully Iranians inside the country and on social media are already there. Wake up and join them. Enough is enough.

[taremiscores]

In normal countries, what you say and what you support results in serious consequences (i.e. you lose jobs).

Tons of examples of athletes and owners who say racist, sexist, and homophobic things that get banned for life. But the deep misogyny and barbarism within the mentality of some Iranians' precludes them from seeing this gross and unforgivable act.

Torabi supports the worst elements within this regime - Khamenei and the "security forces". The ones who plunder, rape men and women, kill, beat women, arrest and beat children etc. Yet, because he had a good freaking game against Uruguay, he is allowed to stay on??!?!? This is the low value you assign to Iranian life?

Unfortunately, Team Melli fans are becoming a maligned and fringe group within Iranians and live in a bubble; they are verifying what a lot of Iranians are saying (esp. inside Iran) - that Team Melli doesn't represent the people and is the "Islamic Republic" team. Mehdi Torabi and Vahid Amiri's inclusion basically confirms this fact.

As all other members of the TM have condemned the regime (to various degrees) and these two have not. There is a clear split. Drop them and we can salvage some of that needed integrity for TM, in this current revolutionary climate.

[Farzin-a]

Team Melli doesn't represent the people and is the "Islamic Republic" team. Mehdi Torabi and Vahid Amiri's inclusion basically confirms this fact.

Then shouldn't the demand be exclusion of Torabi and Amiri. I don't think we want to hand over the ownership of Team Melli to this regime. Even IFF is supposed to be independent. After all, the purpose of this struggle is to claim what belongs to people.

[taremiscores]

Then shouldn't the demand be exclusion of Torabi and Amiri. I don't think we want to hand over the ownership of Team Melli to this regime. Even IFF is supposed to be independent. After all, the purpose of this struggle is to claim what belongs to people.

Honestly, get rid of them. We need the people to be connected to this TM again. Unfortunately, this has become a PR crisis that we are in right now.

Amiri and Torabi are not high-end players. Amiri was once and he's still decent, but not enough to justify his infamy (mofo essentially compared damaging police cars to Iranians getting slaughtered in the streets for peacefully protesting - ajab bi-sharafe kesafate dayoouse).

They can be replaced. Torabi has really had no good games except vs. Uruguay. So he shouldn't be there anyway.

[Hosseini]

If he is messing up the flow and gelling of the team, he needs to go. No time for more drama in TM. Need people on a united front.

But if there's no real friction in the team, I have a hard time saying players should be given a blanket ban based on their political views

[taremiscores]

Team Melli is a sacred thing to me - it's part of being Iranian.

We cannot compromise here the principles and integrity here.

Iran has a rich culture of athletes standing up for the people and siding against despots - GR Takhti, Ali Karimi, Ali Daei, Mehdi Mahdavkia, Rasoul Khadem ...it's responsibilities that comes with wearing that shirt.

I am OK with all the players who have come out and openly made statements (everyone has except I think Omid Noorafkan). But these two jakeshs went the other way and did the unthinkable.

[taremiscores]

If he is messing up the flow and gelling of the team, he needs to go. No time for more drama in TM. Need people on a united front.
But if there's no real friction in the team, I have a hard time saying players should be given a blanket ban based on their political views

Supporting IR is not simply different political views. Let's not normalize the worst regime that's happened to Iran. They are anti-Iran and are worse than a foreign enemy.

It's not like someone is right or left of the political spectrum. It goes beyond that. Torabi supported Khamenei and the security forces - who are massacring our people in cold blood.

[Hosseini]

There were also athletes who were anti BLM and supported the police shooting black people in the US because "law and order", they didn't get banned from the team. I have many coworkers who I ideologically am on the opposite spectrum, but I am not going to call for them to get fired. I think that's kind of insane

Torabi supports his "dear leader" (disgusting). His views are abhorrent. But I don't think his pro-Khamenei stance is a radical view to hold within Iran among the populous, sadly.

Supporting IR is not simply different political views. Let's not normalize the worst regime that's happened to Iran. They are anti-Iran and are worse than a foreign enemy.

It's not like someone is right or left of the political spectrum. It goes beyond that. Torabi supported Khamenei and the security forces - who are massacring our people in cold blood.

[taremiscores]

There were also athletes who were anti BLM and supported the police shooting black people in the US because "law and order", they didn't get banned from the team. I have many coworkers who I ideologically am on the opposite spectrum, but I am not going to call for them to get fired. I think that's kind of insane

Torabi supports his "dear leader" (disgusting). His views are abhorrent. But I don't think his pro-Khamenei stance is a radical view to hold within Iran among the populous, sadly.

Police officers were shooting at BLM protestors? Where did you get this? In Iran, they fire directly on protestors, close to 200 people have died officially (number is much higher). There is no comparison here and no whataboutism that will work.

"All but one were killed by fellow citizens."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...l-unrest-acled

It is a radical view to be supportive of Khamenei in this current climate and has been for a long time.