Torabi in or out of Team Melli?

[inarsenewetrust]

Pulisic is known trump supporter, dont recall any calls by americans to have him thrown out of NT. Like others said, if these political ideas (brainwashing) of torabi's are causing friction within the team, that is certainly cause for removing him. But honestly after so many years that doesn't seem to be the case.

[AGC]

lol well since you told someone to shVt the fvck up I'll give myself the right to call you a fvcking dumbass - that's the definition of equality.
So listen you fvcking dumbass, the people in this case means majority of people in Iran wanting basic human rights which is not a matter of perspective.
Yes there was a point where some people agreed with slavery. Stupid idiots went against principles of equality and those people's opinion and still went and banned slavery. lol that's your level of understanding and argument and that's why this will be my last response to you. Good luck feeling important and smart by saying something totally the opposite of what is referred to as common sense lol.

Lol. Your analogy is a complete failure and opposite of basic facts. Both England and France compensated slave owners because their society could not cope with questioning property rights. The country that battled this out, usa, did not compensate slave owners but did not give POC that were slaves any compensation. Whatever May be the case these ppl did not drop their opinions when slavery ended nor were they cancelled. Are these
Ppl detestable? Yes. Do we have reasons to protect basic rights even when they go against our favour? Yes
To be clear, I think the british and french did the wrong thing. But no society can cope with trying to eradicate ppls opinions in a sweep.
Democracy builds gradually with inclusion of more and more ppl.
I never said that you should like everybody in society. I said thst rule of law should be the case and that we need to learn to respect ppls rights.
Regarding the people and your insistence on majority this and that, whatever bs you spew fact remains that everyone is entitled their opinions. If 10 percent dissent in either good or bad way. Majority of iranians have no business shoving their opinions on anyone.

[AGC]

To be clear i told him to shvt the fvck vp because of his belitteling of other iranians, his self righteousness and insistence on telling others they have no business having opinions bc he disagreed with them.

I will never tell anyone thatif they disagree. Never on Based on differing opinions.

[Hosseini]

I don't want to hurl insults, but based on what he says about "young naive Iranian Americans in the West" I could easily call him one of those older Iranian immigrants who love to conform to US ideals, never like to criticize the government for its very real oppression and look at the US through rose-colored glasses because they're here.

Sure, the US is a very privileged place to grow up if you are middle class or higher, but let's not pretend it hasn't had its fair share of grotesque human rights abuses across the board. Read a history book for christ sake and it'll stare you in the eyes.

To be clear i told him to shvt the fvck vp because of his belitteling of other iranians, his self righteousness and insistence on telling others they have no business having opinions bc he disagreed with them.
I will never tell anyone thatif they disagree. Never on Based on differing opinions.

[Keano]

Out of TM and Perspolis. He should go play for Basij team!

You're either with your people or with the enemy of your people!

[Pouya]

To be clear i told him to shvt the fvck vp because of his belitteling of other iranians, his self righteousness and insistence on telling others they have no business having opinions bc he disagreed with them.

I will never tell anyone thatif they disagree. Never on Based on differing opinions.

I apologize for calling you what I did. You seem like you have a reasonable belief for yourself so I'll just respectfully disagree with you.

[koorosh]

I think this poll and debate is based on a moot point. Torabi is a lover of the regime so his place is safe. It is all of the players who have stuck their necks out to defy the regime and have the potential to bring shame to IR at the WC that are likely to be kicked out.

Torabi represents the misguided minority who by their tacit support continue to enable a murderous regime. You know Alipour was a big time IR supported...went and lived in Portugal for a few years and now he posts pictures of his wife without hejab. Taremi and Jahanbakhsh are in the same boat...as are likely most of TM players. My parents took part in the revolution but voted No to IR (because as they said, IR is a contradiction in terms). A majority did vote "yes" to IR. Over 43 years, that majority support has slowly trickled away to a minority now. We have to oppose the supporters of IR now but when we win, we have to rehabilitate those who are not directly responsible for murder or theft. Torabi is a nobody. We should have a debate about those in football who have unjustly benefited from the regime.

[Altamonte]

Pulisic is known trump supporter, dont recall any calls by americans to have him thrown out of NT. Like others said, if these political ideas (brainwashing) of torabi's are causing friction within the team, that is certainly cause for removing him. But honestly after so many years that doesn't seem to be the case.

Trump isn't that bad that's the difference. He killed Soleimani and isn't a documented racist like Joe Biden.

[Karimi 8]

Out of Team Melli, but hopefully in hell soon

[IranFTW]

I honestly don't know how some people even have the balls to show their face around here at these times!

A parallel between Pulisic and Torabi??

Pulisic doesn't support thugs who killed innocent American women! I know a few of you don't care and lack the shame to even hide it, but there is a difference between supporting a president who orders the assassination of a military officer involved in proxy war with your country, and supporting a regime that orders the killing and torture of innocent civilians of their own country! khak bar sare har irani ke farghe ino nafahme!

This regime literally just killed several Iranian girls on the streets for no crime at all! What kind of **** is ok with this, or sees it as no different than voting for a party he doesn't like??

Mahsa Amini was 22 when she was BEATEN TO DEATH for clothing even more conservative than those of women in Syria and Lebanon! Not a single one of the murderers was even charged!

Any "Iranian" who isn't a coward or a regime supporting cockroach would have turned their back on this regime and its supporters right then. BUT THEN, in protests to object to this outrageous crime, the regime went on to kill multiple other women!

Sarina Esmailzadeh was 16 and BEATEN TO DEATH.
Nika Shakarami was 16. She was RAPED, TORTURED AND KILLED.
Hadis Najafi was 23. She was shot multiple times on the street.

KHAK BAR SARE HAR IRANI KE FARGHI BEINE EEN VA RAY DADAN BE TRUMP NEMIBINE! It's clear some like Torabi lack even the most basic conscience. I'm only glad I'm reading their garbage online and not face to face. I literally don't know a single Iranian this shameless.

[IranFTW]

I apologize for calling you what I did. You seem like you have a reasonable belief for yourself so I'll just respectfully disagree with you.

There is nothing "reasonable" about a coward who wants to "get along" with scumbags who enable the rape and murder of innocent Iranian children. Nika and Sarina were literally minors. They weren't even legal adults! What kind of kesafat is so unmoved by this that he sees himself as able to get along with supporters of these crimes, and then tries to argue with other Iranians who don't??

There are literally no Iranians like this on social media outside of regime supporters. None. Certainly among those who post from Iran. These types only show their sorry faces around these parts because they feel safe that they won't be called out.

And for the record, I didn't approach this hapless coward. HE came crying to ME because I don't want to tolerate his precious rapist-supporters. I had no intention of engaging with his poorly written admissions of cowardice and usually scroll over them.

When the Westerners that he's copying this dopy act from start "tolerating" Nazis, I'll consider tolerating scumbags who rape and kill the young girls of my country.

Countries like Norway will charge you for supporting Nazis even if you can prove you did it unintentionally, but some cowards who don't even tolerate a dolt like Trump all the sudden turn more liberal than Norwegians when it comes to rapists and rape supporters in Iran, then cry when you point out how disgusting their lack of gheyrat is.

In fairness the regime doesn't always target teenage Iranian girls though! Lots of times they jump unarmed Iranian men and beat them within an inch of their lives. Yet the same phony bleeding hearts who spent months mourning George Floyd, act more outraged at Iranians who don't tolerate these atrocities than at the s***** who commit them!

Just as the West normalizes punching nazis, we need to normalize punching sociopaths and cowards who tell us to to be "tolerant" of this:

https://twitter.com/hamid_seta/statu...45938105368577

[IranFTW]

Respectfully, don't you find it a bit odd that you created an account on a Team Melli chat forum last month once the protests began? Then you proceed to never actually post about anything football related but only engage in political arguments....

Respectfully, my first few posts on this forum were all about football until the protests took off.

Respectfully, don't you find it a bit odd that you're more suspicious of Iranians who object to atrocities against Iranian girls than you are about members who clearly don't see those atrocities as a big deal?...

THIS is what I'm talking about when I say some young expat Iranians are completely out of touch with Iranian affairs outside soccer! No one who spends time around Iranian circles on social media, especially at these times, would ask such a weird question.

It's my own fault I guess. I stayed away from here for two days, and only gave myself an ulcer reading unbelievable things you would never read on Iranian twitter or Telegram unless you're only friends with basijis!

Maybe you're right. Maybe toop bazi justifies tolerating some kesafat who doesn't mind Iranian children getting raped and killed!

mano begoo ke ba kia sar o kalle mizanam. I promise I'll leave you fellas alone in these trying times when the murder and torture of Iranian women is getting in the way of enjoying footy!! I'll just do my best to stay on twitter for now. Have at it kiddos!

[Hosseini]

Trump put maximum pressure sanctions on Iran which hurt the people the most. So who knows what his death count of Iranians is

Trump threatened to bomb Iranian cultural sites - a war crime. Want me to bring up the tweet? It should seem like a no-brainer to hate him if you're Iranian, let alone you ignoring his KKK and Nazi supporters, but who knows what mental gymnastics you'll pull to justify that

I honestly don't know how some people even have the balls to show their face around here at these times!

A parallel between Pulisic and Torabi??

Pulisic doesn't support thugs who killed innocent American women! I know a few of you don't care and lack the shame to even hide it, but there is a difference between supporting a president who orders the assassination of a military officer involved in proxy war with your country, and supporting a regime that orders the killing and torture of innocent civilians of their own country! khak bar sare har irani ke farghe ino nafahme!

This regime literally just killed several Iranian girls on the streets for no crime at all! What kind of **** is ok with this, or sees it as no different than voting for a party he doesn't like??

Mahsa Amini was 22 when she was BEATEN TO DEATH for clothing even more conservative than those of women in Syria and Lebanon! Not a single one of the murderers was even charged!

Any "Iranian" who isn't a coward or a regime supporting cockroach would have turned their back on this regime and its supporters right then. BUT THEN, in protests to object to this outrageous crime, the regime went on to kill multiple other women!

Sarina Esmailzadeh was 16 and BEATEN TO DEATH.
Nika Shakarami was 16. She was RAPED, TORTURED AND KILLED.
Hadis Najafi was 23. She was shot multiple times on the street.

KHAK BAR SARE HAR IRANI KE FARGHI BEINE EEN VA RAY DADAN BE TRUMP NEMIBINE! It's clear some like Torabi lack even the most basic conscience. I'm only glad I'm reading their garbage online and not face to face. I literally don't know a single Iranian this shameless.

[AGC]

Dude you get heartattacks, your body ulcerates and you think you're the only one that has sacrifized or seen sh-t. Why are you insisting on being a martyr?

Why are you bundeling together iranians that are against the regime but just dont agree with you regarding certain policies with people that have commited crimes?

Then you call people cowards? Coward is a person that get triggered by different beliefs, not one that has certain thought out principles regarding when people and on certain grounds should be punished.

Certain members are not historyless: have it ever struck you that many people are concerned that iranians will start eating each other up and refuse to get along the day these rev guards, velayate faqih and the rest are kicked out of power? It is easy getting united against scums like the thugs running our country, and in itself that is something fantastic. But there is a day after victory too.

You talk fellow people that have sacrificed opposing this regime as cowards, and it tells tons about a person like you. The slightest disagreement and you act like holier than thou and start throwing tantrums like a baby. Many of us that dont agree with you have promised ourselves to never act like this regime. Never become like this regime or its followers. If you want to act like a high priest enforcing the right way of thinking, then feel free to do it. Just watch out so you dont become an intolerant prick yourself.

[IranFTW]

American Nazi richard spencer supported Trump, David Duke of the KKK supported Trump, fascist militias supported Trump
So by your genius logic supporting Trump should get you banned from playing for a team?

Supporting a goof like Trump and supporting a system that literally rapes and kills the 16 year old girls of your country and lets the murderers and rapists RUN FREE is not the same, genius!

Do you honestly not understand the difference?...Do you get how out of touch and morally indifferent a person has to be to draw a parallel between mere political disagreement and the most heinous of crimes against your brothers and sisters?...

And you act offended when you're told you don't understand the difference between political disagreement and RAPE, TORTURE and MURDER of not just innocents but children??...

Are you serious with this crap?...

Speaking of David Duke that you used as some kind of ace in the hole here, you know which regime invited him to Iran and had him take photos with the president?? Google it champ.

There goes your "but racists in America" card, genius.

Racist scum like Spencer would never get on a US national team if he was a known Nazi or KKK sympathizer. But YOU want a piece of garbage who is shameless about supporting a rapist and David Duke-endorsing system get on the team! Have some shame, kid. Have just a minimum amount of shame. It will go a long way. The funny part is I know I'll end up getting banned but people who literally advertise their "tolerance" for the rapists of Nika and their enablers will stay.

My own fault for even wasting the time. Some of this crap is beyond just clueless. It's downright disgusting.