The Barcelona Thread

[chuck bass]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV0iDeo_c5Q

only one close to a defensive mistake goal was 2nd, but it would have went it regardless of the ball hitting the defender or not..

[milad]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV0iDeo_c5Q

only one close to a defensive mistake goal was 2nd, but it would have went it regardless of the ball hitting the defender or not..

goal 1: defender heads it right to etoo. dont tell me he was forced. it was just a bad header and you know it.
goal 2: even you admitted
goal 3: they were trying an offside trap which they ridiculously messed up, but w.e not that much of a direct defensive mistake.
goal 4: lol? keeper and 2 defenders cant even clear a ball, but eto did finish nicely
goal 5: free kick

[chuck bass]

goal 1: defender heads it right to etoo. dont tell me he was forced. it was just a bad header and you know it.
goal 2: even you admitted
goal 3: they were trying an offside trap which they ridiculously messed up, but w.e not that much of a direct defensive mistake.
goal 4: lol? keeper and 2 defenders cant even clear a ball, but eto did finish nicely
goal 5: free kick

1: he had to head it, what else was he supposed to do?

2: i did, but i also said it would have been a goal anyway

3: not a mistake, just good vision

4: it was passed past the keeper, not like he had the ball in his hands and slipped it

5: freekick isnt a defensive mistake

[milad]

1: he had to head it, what else was he supposed to do?
2: i did, but i also said it would have been a goal anyway
3: not a mistake, just good vision
4: it was passed past the keeper, not like he had the ball in his hands and slipped it
5: freekick isnt a defensive mistake

1: umm.. overhead kick clearance or head it ANYWHERE but in front of etoos legs? it might not have been his fault because he didnt have much time but etoo did get lucky that it came right into his feet.
2: no it would not have been if the defender cleared it instead of failing to control it like an amateur
3: it was good vision but the defenders were all caught napping
4: again, defenders could have easily cleared it but they didnt
5: thats why i did not say it was one, but a free kick is random. you cant brag about your team scoring a free kick

my point is that you have to take in the factor that almeria played like absolute crap before saying barca is amazing for crushing a team 5-0. you know who is amazing for doing that? real madrid scoring 5 team constructed goals against the 2nd place team in the league who actually played well even though they lost 5-0.

[Arzhang]

1: umm.. overhead kick clearance or head it ANYWHERE but in front of etoos legs? it might not have been his fault because he didnt have much time but etoo did get lucky that it came right into his feet.
2: no it would not have been if the defender cleared it instead of failing to control it like an amateur
3: it was good vision but the defenders were all caught napping
4: again, defenders could have easily cleared it but they didnt
5: thats why i did not say it was one, but a free kick is random. you cant brag about your team scoring a free kick

my point is that you have to take in the factor that almeria played like absolute crap before saying barca is amazing for crushing a team 5-0. you know who is amazing for doing that? real madrid scoring 5 team constructed goals against the 2nd place team in the league who actually played well even though they lost 5-0.

these excuses are bs from the start. there are always going to be defensive mistakes in any football match. its the job of the opposing team to capitalize on the chances and convert them into goals. Barcelona was putting constant pressure through attacking and that is eventually going to cause mistakes and goals. Even with goals where the attacking is so well timed and played and finished, there is always something the defenders could have done better.

goal 1: great run, great pass, the defender only had time to react and get a head on it. he is off balanced and back tracking trying to clear the ball. if you've ever been put in that position on the field you'll know that its impossible to get enough power on the header to clear it out. over head kick? lol, you're getting ridiculous, don't forget it didnt land right at eto'os feet he's speedy and poached onto the ball.
goal 2: the defender wasn't trying to control it. he was trying to clear it, watch his body and how off balanced he is, in his mind if he doesn get a foot on that then its a goal.
goal 3: its just a nice goal, what more can you say, the defense was caught flat footed for a second and barca produced.
goal 4: the defenders couldn't have easily cleared it, eto'o was shielding the ball really well, for them to have gotten to the ball, they would have had to go through eto'o causing a pk. eto'os reception was a little lucky but messi's ball and iniesta's silky moves were spot on.
goal 5: free kick

If you really want I can go through every Madrid goal and point out the defensive mistakes made by the other team. Stop with the bs excuses. The fact is Barca were applying nonstop pressure and defenses can only do so much before giving up goals.

[shayan20]

Let's say all the 5 goals were "defensive mistakes".
that case, how come these mistakes are coming up against Barca??
It's simple, against Barca's attacking powers, the opponents have no choice but to make a mistake an eventually goal.
don't forget if there was no mistakes in football there would have been no goals.

[chuck bass]

Malaga owned 4-1 and we are now number 1 in la liga

[shayan20]

Malaga owned 4-1 and we are now number 1 in la liga

I'm even happier XABI scored 2.
Even if Real Madrid win their next match, we'll still be at top thanks to the bags of goals we scored and the thumping 5 and 6 goal thrillers.

[milad]

I'm even happier XABI scored 2.
Even if Real Madrid win their next match, we'll still be at top thanks to the bags of goals we scored and the thumping 5 and 6 goal thrillers.

which does not mean anything because la liga is head to head and we all know what happens come el classico.

[chuck bass]

which does not mean anything because la liga is head to head and we all know what happens come el classico.

how about you actually reply to arzhangs post to end the discussion YOU started, instead of trying to change the subject with your regular old shit?

[PersianMadrid7]

Barca is doing pretty good they are regaining form and are playing better than my team at the moment.

But all it takes is for Madrid to get back on form, even though we are still winning liga games.

"defensive mistakes" occur when the attacking team is outplaying the defensive team, so it's no excuse unless attacking team is playing horrible.

[milad]

how about you actually reply to arzhangs post to end the discussion YOU started, instead of trying to change the subject with your regular old shit?

i already said my thoughts about the subject. arzhang is talking about pressure yes obviously pressure causes mistakes but i am just saying almeria played like absolute crap. but of course against madrid they are playing 11 behind the ball like they did against you guys in the 2nd half where you scored 0 goals. but we still managed to score 1 but now they equalized.

[Arzhang]

i already said my thoughts about the subject. arzhang is talking about pressure yes obviously pressure causes mistakes but i am just saying almeria played like absolute crap. but of course against madrid they are playing 11 behind the ball like they did against you guys in the 2nd half where you scored 0 goals. but we still managed to score 1 but now they equalized.

let's assume you're right and almeria were not having a good day, barcelona still managed to create dozens of chances and put 5 goals past them, don't take anything away from barcelona because the other team was playing like "crap".

against madrid they were by no means playing 11 behind the ball. don't go saying that almeria were playing amazing because that was not the case at all, madrid were not playing well. madrid was having trouble keeping pocession long enough to create any sort of meaningful attack. madrid was giving up the ball carelessly in the midfield. almeria were attacking a lot and creating numerous chances for themselves but played with very little creativity. if almeria were playing all 11 behind the ball then there is no way they could have constantly been putting pressure on the madrid defense like they did.

[Sumerian]

i already said my thoughts about the subject. arzhang is talking about pressure yes obviously pressure causes mistakes but i am just saying almeria played like absolute crap. but of course against madrid they are playing 11 behind the ball like they did against you guys in the 2nd half where you scored 0 goals. but we still managed to score 1 but now they equalized.

Almeria does not put 11 men behind the ball. Enough with your extremely lame excuses. Are you seriously mentioning that Barca failed to score a goal in the second half!? What part of already leading 5-0 do you not understand?


I think all this stupid banter should stop at least until the Clasico and until then all Cules & Madridistas should post in their respective threads because these pages and pages of trash talk don't seem to be leading to anything.

[milad]

let's assume you're right and almeria were not having a good day, barcelona still managed to create dozens of chances and put 5 goals past them, don't take anything away from barcelona because the other team was playing like "crap".
against madrid they were by no means playing 11 behind the ball. don't go saying that almeria were playing amazing because that was not the case at all, madrid were not playing well. madrid was having trouble keeping pocession long enough to create any sort of meaningful attack. madrid was giving up the ball carelessly in the midfield. almeria were attacking a lot and creating numerous chances for themselves but played with very little creativity. if almeria were playing all 11 behind the ball then there is no way they could have constantly been putting pressure on the madrid defense like they did.

from the beginning i simply said barca winning 5-0 was exaggerated due to the reasons i mentioned.

against madrid they played 11 behind the ball in the first half. even the commentator and goal.com reporter said it. we could not hold on to possession LOL? they hardly touched the ball in the first half. how can you constantly created meaningful attacks when 11 players are closing passing angles? we did well considering how they went for the draw. thats the difference between us and you, teams go for draws against us and wins against you.